major interest wrote: » Have wondered the same thing alright. Not aware of any plans but would be a no brainier when developing the south docks to develop the river frontage as a public amenity (rather than a 3 lane road as most of the quays near city centre are). There is ample room to set buildings well back from the river to allow such a plan.
Captainsatnav wrote: » On a related note, we're moving to Cork soon...are there any public swimming areas like in Dublin ? Seapoint, 40 foot etc? I know that there used to b'é bathing areas in Lee Fields for example, but are there any plans to develop new ones for the future?
whoistalking wrote: » Talking about the connectivity of the Marquee development to town. It would be great if the Marine could be extended directly from Shandon boat club into the city center by Kennedy and Albert quays, providing a direct cycle and walking route along the Lee. There seems to be plenty space at the back of the industrial estate and the ESB power station. Anyone have any ideas/thoughts on this or info as to pre-existing plans or attempts I am unaware of?
bingo9999 wrote: » Hugely agree, I have wondered why the light rail plan diverts down centre park road when it could run along the waterfront with a walk and bike trail. Its just a bit of fencing at the ESB site and the need to clear up parking in the commercial park a bit which is easily done. Waiting to see whats in the North and South Docks LAP which was due months and months ago, hardly optimistic.
namloc1980 wrote: » Saw this on Twitter about some info coming out of the NTA briefing to the council on Monday. It seems the development of the Luas is contingent on certain population levels being reached and could take up to 20 years. And that funding is very uncertain..
Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: » "build it and they will come" comes to mind. This is just delay tactics that no doubt City Hall et Al will use to their advantage. 2040: "sorry lads, density still isn't great, no Luas"
namloc1980 wrote: » Indeed but it seems very clear that there is no appetite for a "build it and they will come" approach and there will be no light rail without intense development and densification among the route corridor, the key to which is the development of higher density residential areas in the Docklands and in particular the South Docklands. The council need to do everything to get this moving fast because if they sit on their hands it'll remain a post industrial wasteland and no light rail will be built.
roreos wrote: » For a long time Spencer Dock to the point was a ghost town with little to nothing in between and little even at the point itself (an empty shopping centre and vacant office). I'm not saying the North Dublin docks wouldn't have seen the development they've had in recent years without a Luas but having the infrastructure in place before development certainly helped
namloc1980 wrote: » Not disagreeing but the message is clear, increase density and development first. I mean you couldn't justify a light rail now in the South Docklands. There's nothing there, it's like a post-apocalyptic industrial wasteland. I personally think the infrastructure should go in first or at least side by side with the initial development but realistically no government is going to hand out €1bn for a Luas without seeing successful and intense development down there first. It just won't happen no matter how much we would like it to. There are two choices: do nothing and hope that the goodies will come anyway (unlikely), or plough ahead and point to the start of successful regeneration and need for infrastructure to support it further.
roreos wrote: » I suppose my point is that the message is inconsistent with precedence in Dublin. Cherrywood had its roads widened, new junctions and cycle lanes and not to mention the Luas before they started building the new town centre. In cork however there seems to be a train of thought in government that they must create an infrastructural deficit problem and then fix it, like building a house and putting the foundation in after.
fonecrusher1 wrote: » Its becoming more apparent now that the covid outbreak is going to cause a few big projects to stall for months possibly years. Or be abandoned completely. So frustrating. Just when things were really moving along.
fonecrusher1 wrote: » Hopefully the Prism goes ahead although somebody said its on hold. I was looking forward to seeing that go up.
namloc1980 wrote: » The city badly needs large scale residential development (not more student apartments) in the city centre above anything else. There was a post here that the sextant site is on hold and it looks like the Marina Quarter is on hold for now also. And the apartments at Horgan's Quay look dead in the water too. This is unfortunate and does nothing to increase residential density in the city and will mean the workers in the shiny new offices will have to find housing elsewhere outside the city - with most new housing that is happening being in the suburbs. This in turn creates more traffic woes etc.
whisky_galore wrote: » Are shiny new offices even needed anymore?
namloc1980 wrote: » I wonder about these councillors at times, I really do. Are they living in the real world at all? Seamus McGrath reckons the southside has been ignored by CMATS even though Douglas will be a BusConnects hub. Basically they all want a Luas line to their front door.https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Light-rail-plan-for-Cork-comes-under-fire-for-excluding-key-commuter-areas-e13e0868-09b1-4fca-a1e8-a6be0fdeb6b1-ds
namloc1980 wrote: » Well that's another thing. Can't see too many new offices being built until the economic outlook becomes clearer and the longer term impact of WFH is known.
lawrencesummers wrote: » With all the new student accommodation someone should really consider building another college. Were most students in the past homeless or something?
Markcheese wrote: » Living in regular houses ...
Permission...for the demolition of an existing garage premises and the construction of 45 no. apartments (4 no. 3 bed, 29 no. 2 bed and 12 no. 1 bed) in one no. five storey building and one no. six storey building, and associated external works.
lawrencesummers wrote: » A far more attractive prospect to me than living in a modern looking single serving overpriced isolated prison cell.
