Blanco100 wrote: » Whats the type of business?
andrew1977 wrote: » Back to the office for the 23 or so of us 10th August , email sent today to everyone from the management Redesign of the office , seats 2 metres apart , plastic screens at each work station, no gathering in the kitchen for lunch breaks etc . Training on health and safety and Covid practices to be complete online week before we return . Full crew of us all return same day and normal office hours again going forward . We worked fine remotely all of us , everything done and more of our workload . The culture is “ have them in the office “, MD is old school . Back to my 2 hour round trip commute per day and 55 euro or so a week on diesel . Working from home made such a positive impact to my wellbeing , 19 years commuting , was such a difference the time back I gained at home ,leaving aside the running costs of the car . But considering the jobs market and how things might look going forward for the economy, I won’t grumble too much compared to situations others are facing .
Biker79 wrote: » Aircraft leasing.
Jim Root wrote: » Going back 5 days fully is backward thinking & it’s very much old school bosses who want things back the way they were. Most companies I know off are gently tipping their toe in the water with minimum days in the office, majority WFH.
andrew1977 wrote: » Yes , fully agree with you there . Our MD is a decent fella but won’t embrace new ways of working . He likes to micro manage everything and has the air of a school head master watching over his pupils in class every day . I’ve a good salary there , start and finish early each day to beat some of the traffic ( that was his way of being flexible ) , so I won’t be budging unless I get something in my home town . I’ve been searching 19 years , nothing for my line of work really in my home town
tony1980 wrote: » Time for him to retire perhaps?
andrew1977 wrote: » I wish , still have a good few years of the dreaded commute ahead of me still unfortunately.
andrew1977 wrote: » I’ve a good salary there , start and finish early each day to beat some of the traffic ( that was his way of being flexible ) , so I won’t be budging unless I get something in my home town . I’ve been searching 19 years , nothing for my line of work really in my home town
unhappys10 wrote: » Move somewhere in the same location that gives you some wfh?
andrew1977 wrote: » Yes , been watching the jobs market and hopefully something comes up eventually. 5 days a week in the office commuting 19 years , the lockdown gave me a new perspective on things . All our productivity has increased , this is acknowledged by the management, just the old school mentality of bums on seats is the ethos we have . I have online calls one full morning and one full afternoon per week , and calls various other time’s of the days in the week , I’ll know be sitting in an office ( meeting rooms off limit now due to Covid restrictions) , all of us talking into headsets and breaking each other’s concentration, when I know I could do the call better sitting at my kitchen table as we all have for the past 5 months .Ive to drive into the office now as such to be seen sitting there and on the phone , madness when you think of it .
unhappys10 wrote: » Is there no talking to them and explaining the benefits all round of staying at home?
andrew1977 wrote: » The attitude is / was ... if we give it to one we have to give it to all . Let’s see how the next few months shape up and if their attitude to working from home changes . Our work was critical during the pandemic and we excelled and delivered everything asked of us and more , all sitting at our own kitchen tables .
strandroad wrote: » Will they expect the same productivity when the commute is back on? Interesting times.
riclad wrote: » Let's say there's 3 or 4 people sharing a house, Working from home is gonna be tough, you either work in a bedroom, or else share a front room with at least 2 other people. It's not going to practical if you need to make lots of zoom, Skype calls. You could end up spending most of the day in 1 room. That's not designed as an office. With no space for a desk or proper chair like they have in an office. I think most company's will need staff to come in 1 or 2 days a week. If you work for most company's they will expect you to live in Ireland . Maybe in 2 years time things will return to normal . No one knows how long it will take to make a vaccine.
tony1980 wrote: » Managed it with kids in the house with no school and I’ve often been on a zoom call with customers where someone has apologized for kids randomly making noise. Was quick to sort and never an issue. Everyone adapted easily in my experience! Edit: our company let us take office chairs and monitors. I realize not all night have but they should have.
The Spider wrote: » Look for a new job, seriously I know times are weird,but if I was you Id be looking, now you know you prefer remote, go make it happen, always remember no one owns you, you're selling your services to give you what you want not what a company wants to hive you.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Fine for people who have enough space in their houses for office chairs - but many don't. People making allowances for dogs / kids in the background is fine in pandemic circumstances, but won't last forever. Not being responsible for kids during work hours will soon enough be a requirement.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Fine for people who have enough space in their houses for office chairs - but many don't.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » People making allowances for dogs / kids in the background is fine in pandemic circumstances, but won't last forever. Not being responsible for kids during work hours will soon enough be a requirement.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Not being responsible for kids during work hours will soon enough be a requirement.
Biker79 wrote: » There arent as many options as you might think. Other companies wont neccessarily be offering something different. If anythign we could see most companies hunkering down, reluctant to try untested ways of working. 5 months isnt long enough to test WFH as a permanent option. They know what to expect when everyone has to work from the office. Its manageable.
unhappys10 wrote: » I have come up with a new formula driven excel template which will shave days off the finance teams monthly work load.
fret_wimp2 wrote: » If someone wants to WFH, its their responsibility to ensure they can do so comfortably, and if that includes having space for a fancy chair or not, is down to that person. if they feel lack of space for a big chair prevents them being able to avail of WFH, then they should go back to the office once that option becomes available. I find the opposite, people dont mind. People want to get work done, and the occasional kid shouting or dog barking wont get in the way for professionals. I can only speak for our experience, but i have a toddler running around and am no less productive. many on the team have kids and are no less productive. if anything, we all know each other a bit better now from seeing our various circumstances and its actually brought more empathy and flexibility to the team. If a company is getting pissy about a child interrupting 2 mins of an hour meeting every now and again, I probably wouldnt fit into the culture there. YMMV. It will be a requirement as soon as creche's and schools are viable again and not before, at which point parents will hopefully be happy to have their kids back with their friends and under a structured learning programme. In the organization i work, and all of my friends, without exception, WFH is now a long term viable option. Productivity has not suffered, some of their companies are even closing down city center offices saving on costs, all are comfortable with employees working from home, as long as theres some flexibility to be in the office on occasion where necessary. People in my org have even moved out of Dublin and back nearer family based on the new view of WFH. Perhaps my group of friends and the various organizations we work for are the exception though, and everyone else will be ordered back to their desks at the earliest option.
