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VW e-Golf

Mupchease

I couldn’t find a recent post for egolf owners ( there isn’t too much of us to be fair ) so I thought I would start one.

I’ve had my ee egolf since the start of January and I am wondering how other owners are finding the range and efficiency. I don’t have a heat pump. I have the lights pack and the 17” tyres. I have just hit 2,000 km with an average of 18.7kw/100km from mixed driving.

Yesterday I wasn’t in a rush so I done a 100km trip with the eco plus mode on and b mode active with the speed at 95km/hr. The lights were on and so was my heated seat. I got 18.3kw/100km out of it which impressed me since I usually have it between 100km/hr and 110km/hr for motorway driving and it’s 20+kw/100km. My range when fully charged has been sitting at around 180km.

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Eoin

I've a similar question - the options in the car settings are something like "5A,11A, 13A and Max". It's set to Max and my home charger is capable of 32A, but it's taking ages to charge - prob over 10 hours from empty-ish. Fast charging from a 50kw works fine - am I missing a setting or something? The charger installation crew called out today and couldn't find any problems.

the perfect ten

I didn't think to check that.

I'll do that next time.

graememk

Does the golf show how fast it is charging?

the perfect ten

Thanks for doing the maths.

No, the cable didn't feel warm. But I don't understand how it could carry a current of almost 32A if it is only rated at 20A.

innrain

the perfect ten wrote: »

Just trying to understand charging rates and charging times.

I charged up our eGolf about a week ago using one of the free ESB 22kW chargers (Type 2 untethered - 22kW) - I was using the 20A cable.

The charging time was 2h 39m 37s and the power came to 18.747KWh.

Can anyone tell me how long it would have taken if i had been able to use a 32A cable?

Thanks.

18.75 kWh in 2h40' (160') gives an average rate of charge of 7.02 kW.

As Power= Voltage x Current and Voltage is assumed 220 V the charging current averages at around 31.9A

I don't think you are going to get any better charging rate with a different cable. A lot safer though. Interesting how was it possible. Was it warm during the charging?

charlieIRL

the perfect ten wrote: »

Just trying to understand charging rates and charging times.

I charged up our eGolf about a week ago using one of the free ESB 22kW chargers (Type 2 untethered - 22kW) - I was using the 20A cable.

The charging time was 2h 39m 37s and the power came to 18.747KWh.

Can anyone tell me how long it would have taken if i had been able to use a 32A cable?

Thanks.

Your eGolf has a 36kW battery (32kW useable AFAIK) so you charged up from half full approx?

Anyway - if it took you 2h 39m it would only take 1hr 20m approx with a 32a cable, it literally halves the charge time from my experience.

the perfect ten

Just trying to understand charging rates and charging times.

I charged up our eGolf about a week ago using one of the free ESB 22kW chargers (Type 2 untethered - 22kW) - I was using the 20A cable.

The charging time was 2h 39m 37s and the power came to 18.747KWh.

Can anyone tell me how long it would have taken if i had been able to use a 32A cable?

Thanks.

charlieIRL

the perfect ten wrote: »

.... but would a 32A cable make a difference with those ones or not?

it will half the charging time.

i use the one i got with my car when charging at night because it can be plugged in for 9 - 10 hours but if i need a charge on a 22kW charger i use the 32a one. Can get 50kms in an hour with it I think whereas if i used the 16a one I'd only get 25kms.

the perfect ten

yellowbrick wrote: »

I am in the process of buying a new EGolf over the next week or so - and am obviously concerned that the charge cables that come with the car are fit for purpose.

The UK VW Site has the following listed as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2/G (10A)
Charging cable, model 3, type 2/3 (32A)

Whereas the Irish VW site lists the following as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable mode 3, type 2/3, 16 A
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2 / G (10 A)

Whats the justification for only giving Irish Buyers the 16A (I see some posters are saying they got a 20A cable
- possibly the same one as the GTE) cable rather that the 32A cable which the EGolf is more than capable of using?

I believe the dealers buy in this cable sperately anyway -
Has anyone actually got a 32A cable from a dealer as part of a new purchase?

We bought our eGolf just before the lockdown and got a 20A Type 2 cable as well as the mains one.

The few fast chargers we've used so far have all been tethered so the cable hasn't been an issue. We've used a number of the free ESB 22kW chargers but would a 32A cable make a difference with those ones or not?

liamog

Don't go round and test every single charger, you are either cursed or have an issue, but don't take out the whole island

bodgerfederer

So, charging at ionity Gorey on Sunday- plugged in, car started to charge for about 5 seconds and then clunk- power outage to all the ionity chargers and the esb. Like a trip switch went off and killed all the power.

Then last night the car failed to charge- my eo mini was dead and yep, the trip switch had gone.

Are these 2 things just coincidence ? I just plugged in (at home) and pressed charge and it seems to be working. It’s now set to charge overnight so we’ll see. But I don’t really believe in coincidences...Anyone anything similar?

unkel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I have no idea if I got a 16a or 32a with my car to be honest.

Your electricity bill will tell you

Most EVs can not be charged in full at the night rate with a 16A cable. You will pay way over the odds for charging up at home if you do not have a 32A cable.

C@t

yellowbrick wrote: »

I am in the process of buying a new EGolf over the next week or so - and am obviously concerned that the charge cables that come with the car are fit for purpose.

The UK VW Site has the following listed as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2/G (10A)
Charging cable, model 3, type 2/3 (32A)

Whereas the Irish VW site lists the following as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable mode 3, type 2/3, 16 A
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2 / G (10 A)

Whats the justification for only giving Irish Buyers the 16A (I see some posters are saying they got a 20A cable
- possibly the same one as the GTE) cable rather that the 32A cable which the EGolf is more than capable of using?

I believe the dealers buy in this cable sperately anyway -
Has anyone actually got a 32A cable from a dealer as part of a new purchase?

I was told by my dealer that it was due to the wiring in the average Irish home... and in the same sentence told that I should buy a tethered 32A home charger ðŸ€·*♀️

Shefwedfan

yellowbrick wrote: »

I am in the process of buying a new EGolf over the next week or so - and am obviously concerned that the charge cables that come with the car are fit for purpose.

The UK VW Site has the following listed as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2/G (10A)
Charging cable, model 3, type 2/3 (32A)

Whereas the Irish VW site lists the following as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable mode 3, type 2/3, 16 A
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2 / G (10 A)

Whats the justification for only giving Irish Buyers the 16A (I see some posters are saying they got a 20A cable
- possibly the same one as the GTE) cable rather that the 32A cable which the EGolf is more than capable of using?

I believe the dealers buy in this cable sperately anyway -
Has anyone actually got a 32A cable from a dealer as part of a new purchase?

Just ask them for 32a cable.

In reality you will be charging over night 99% of the time and it will make no difference

I have no idea if I got a 16a or 32a with my car to be honest.

Most charge points now come with a cable connected so the cable sits in boot. The 10a is the granny cable

yellowbrick

I am in the process of buying a new EGolf over the next week or so - and am obviously concerned that the charge cables that come with the car are fit for purpose.

The UK VW Site has the following listed as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2/G (10A)
Charging cable, model 3, type 2/3 (32A)

Whereas the Irish VW site lists the following as "standard specification" for the EGolf
Charging cable mode 3, type 2/3, 16 A
Charging cable, mode 2, type 2 / G (10 A)

Whats the justification for only giving Irish Buyers the 16A (I see some posters are saying they got a 20A cable
- possibly the same one as the GTE) cable rather that the 32A cable which the EGolf is more than capable of using?

I believe the dealers buy in this cable sperately anyway -
Has anyone actually got a 32A cable from a dealer as part of a new purchase?

charlieIRL

Thanks L-M, it was doing that alright. The charge would start but then turn itself off after w hile.

Its been charging fine since so not sure what has happened. I turned back on the departure times last night and it charged no problem.

L-M

charlieIRL wrote: »

Two nights this week my car has failed to charge
Sunday night I plugged it in - hadn't been charged since Thursday night and had 36kms range left - it only charged to 60kms. I have a timer set etc and its been working faultless since October. Had to fast charge just to get me to work, charged at work no problem.
Had a lot of driving to do Tuesday so topped up to 100% when i got home Monday - night no problem at all.
I had to go to the office yesterday so plugged in at home Tuesday night and it only charged to approximately 80% - i had all timers turned off, charge to 100% etc and it still didn't charge fully.
Didn't really need a charge last night as I'm working from home until Monday but plugged in anyway and it charged to 100%

Not sure what to do, am back in the office Monday so will charge again Sunday night and see.

Anyone else have any similar problems?

When you plug the car in and lock it , you should see a Green light in the filler cap and a green plug light flashing on the dash?

slave1

Red Tesla Destination Chargers are Tesla only, white as Unkel says, any type 2

unkel

the perfect ten wrote: »

So it is possible to charge an eGolf using some types of Tesla charger?

All EVs sold in the last few years (including an eGolf and all Teslas) use the same type 2 charger in the car.

Some hotels have "Tesla" destination chargers. They got them provided for free by Tesla and the hotel just pays for the install costs and they have to provide free electricity. Typically they get two of them. Both have the same type 2 connector. But one of them has an internal switch so that it recognises if the car is a Tesla and will only charge Teslas. The other is for all other EVs (Teslas can charge on that one too)

Philippe14

I only failed to charge once on me in the first few weeks on me using it. I can only guess it was a user error and I didn't verify that it was plugged properly.

Since then I have not had a problem, though I have not been charging that much.

Could the problem come from your charger, or a problem with your load balancing which would make it charge at a lower speed?

the perfect ten

AmberGold wrote: »

Stayed in the Kinglsey in Cork recently, Tesla charger was borderline useless, better off plugging into a wall socket.

So it is possible to charge an eGolf using some types of Tesla charger?

charlieIRL

Two nights this week my car has failed to charge

Sunday night I plugged it in - hadn't been charged since Thursday night and had 36kms range left - it only charged to 60kms. I have a timer set etc and its been working faultless since October. Had to fast charge just to get me to work, charged at work no problem.
Had a lot of driving to do Tuesday so topped up to 100% when i got home Monday - night no problem at all.
I had to go to the office yesterday so plugged in at home Tuesday night and it only charged to approximately 80% - i had all timers turned off, charge to 100% etc and it still didn't charge fully.
Didn't really need a charge last night as I'm working from home until Monday but plugged in anyway and it charged to 100%

Not sure what to do, am back in the office Monday so will charge again Sunday night and see.

Anyone else have any similar problems?

slave1

AmberGold wrote: »

Stayed in the Kinglsey in Cork recently, Tesla charger was borderline useless, better off plugging into a wall socket.

Some Tesla destination chargers have been throttled back by providers, I am not familiar with that one but they could well have pulled it back to minimal amperage just so they can have it as a selling point.
So this is the Kingsley that have done it, not Tesla and not the charger.

Checking ZapMap comments, the Kingsley have it restricted to 3.6kW so there's your answer

Shefwedfan

Dempsey wrote: »

Can it be updated via the wifi connection?

No, has to be card into slot in system

Dempsey

bodgerfederer wrote: »

Has anyone updated the maps in the infotainment? Saw someone on FB had done it.

It's 25 gig of maps!

https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/int/en/index/downloads/maps-download#/?car=a3e422d7-ab49-4a9e-aa71-37fe8035fe76

I'm assuming it's straight forward enough - download, unzip, put it on the SD card.

Just wondering if anyone has done it/found it worthwhile?

Can it be updated via the wifi connection?

AmberGold

Mupchease wrote: »

I don’t see what a hotel has to lose by getting a charger. Its no harm and if you could book the charger it would definitely make me consider that hotel more than one without. Who wants to waste time stopping for a charge when on a holiday if possible.

Stayed in the Kinglsey in Cork recently, Tesla charger was borderline useless, better off plugging into a wall socket.

Shefwedfan

bodgerfederer wrote: »

Has anyone updated the maps in the infotainment? Saw someone on FB had done it.

It's 25 gig of maps!

https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/int/en/index/downloads/maps-download#/?car=a3e422d7-ab49-4a9e-aa71-37fe8035fe76

I'm assuming it's straight forward enough - download, unzip, put it on the SD card.

Just wondering if anyone has done it/found it worthwhile?

I done it on my old one eGolf.....It was easy enough

You need a 32GB card, dont go with lower or it wont work

bodgerfederer

Has anyone updated the maps in the infotainment? Saw someone on FB had done it.

It's 25 gig of maps!

https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/int/en/index/downloads/maps-download#/?car=a3e422d7-ab49-4a9e-aa71-37fe8035fe76

I'm assuming it's straight forward enough - download, unzip, put it on the SD card.

Just wondering if anyone has done it/found it worthwhile?

Shefwedfan

unkel wrote: »

In a mild climate degradation will be very low and gradual on pretty much all EVs bar ones with zero battery cooling (like Leafs)

Think ballpark remaining capacity of 80-85% after 10-15 years (typical life of a car)

Never noticed any on my two, the only confirmation I have seen was a guy took a battery reading after it arrived and after 80k km or miles I cant remember took another and it had same battery left. According to the group it was mentioned VW "buffer" the battery more than rivals so even thought it had degradation it didnt affect range

unkel

Mupchease wrote: »

Has anybody noticed any degradation yet on any of their cars ? 44k in and I haven’t noticed any.

In a mild climate degradation will be very low and gradual on pretty much all EVs bar ones with zero battery cooling (like Leafs)

Think ballpark remaining capacity of 80-85% after 10-15 years (typical life of a car)