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Random Waffle Thread

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Lately it has been said that there is not enough interest in the carlow board and that some sort of live needs to be brought back into the board. This although hurtful to carlow inhabitants is a very valid point. Our forum is used enough and we really do need to bump up the number of posters on this forum and show certain other counties in the couth east that we can compete with the "BIG BOYS":D *(patrick knows what i mean by this)

So my input into the idea is to make the forum a bit "looser" and more Enjoyable. My input being this thread. Maybe we could use it to talk about anything at all, no guidelines, usual rules just post on whatever topic you want. Might be a chance for carlow people to get to know each other better outside the debates on current events with regard to the county. Maybe no-one or the mods will see this as an asset to the board but it's worth a shot. As a poster in the soccer forums they have recently started such a thread and it seems to be working a treat as distractions usually do.So use it at you're will and SULLY/DUB13 feel free to make the moderations to it as you deem fit or pm me regarding the matter. Lets see how it goes!

Nothing else to say exept who wants to be the first post???:D

Edit : Please also note that there is a count on the Thread too....As in like if you agree with someone instead of having to post a big long complicate reply just say "+1" or if you disagree "-1" or "-100" dependant of what your views may be...:D

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BattleCorp wrote: »

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I much prefer the space, peace and quiet and privacy afforded by living in a one-off house in the country.

I would have hated COVID-19 lockdown in an apartment block. At least I could relax around my own house and not worry about someone coughing on me as we passed each other in the hall.

You are lucky in that you work in the same town where you live. Would you still like to live in your apartment if you had to commute to Dublin for work?

Regarding walking to the shop, I commute to work so it's easy to stop in on the way home somewhere to get what I want. I only live 3km from my nearest town so it's only 3 mins in the car to get to the shop eitherways.

Not big into pints so I only go to the pub an odd time and it's easy enough and cheap enough to get a taxi home.

The thing is if we were to get more big employers in the town, whether it be factories or pharmaceutical similar to MSD say we would need places for the workforce, now many people may commute obviously as I do myself but for younger workers in particular. apartments in town would be more attractive to their lifestyle, same goes for if the IT is to expand as it seems to be doing. We need all these things to happen for Carlow to progress in any way.

Im not saying the new apartment complex planned is the right way to go or in the right area, I'm not sure to be honest, I can see the arguments for both sides. But we do need somewhere for people, in particular young workers and students to live if the town is ever to take off in any way but I won't be holding my breath.

SligoBrewer

BattleCorp wrote: »

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I much prefer the space, peace and quiet and privacy afforded by living in a one-off house in the country.

I would have hated COVID-19 lockdown in an apartment block. At least I could relax around my own house and not worry about someone coughing on me as we passed each other in the hall.

You are lucky in that you work in the same town where you live. Would you still like to live in your apartment if you had to commute to Dublin for work?

Regarding walking to the shop, I commute to work so it's easy to stop in on the way home somewhere to get what I want. I only live 3km from my nearest town so it's only 3 mins in the car to get to the shop eitherways.

Not big into pints so I only go to the pub an odd time and it's easy enough and cheap enough to get a taxi home.

I’m not big on pints either, it’s just that town living is more conducive to a community way of life. Your one off house is you, the lawn and yer car if you want to go anywhere.

I’ve to go to Dublin for college. I take the train and a DublinBike. My car lies idle 25 days a month and I’d get rid of it fully if there was a decent public transport option between here and Sligo.

BattleCorp

SligoBrewer wrote: »

Yes. I grew up in a one off house, live in an apartment now. I like having a 2 minute cycle to work, walking to the shops and being able to walk for a pint rather than having lifts and driving dictate what i can and can't do.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I much prefer the space, peace and quiet and privacy afforded by living in a one-off house in the country.

I would have hated COVID-19 lockdown in an apartment block. At least I could relax around my own house and not worry about someone coughing on me as we passed each other in the hall.

You are lucky in that you work in the same town where you live. Would you still like to live in your apartment if you had to commute to Dublin for work?

Regarding walking to the shop, I commute to work so it's easy to stop in on the way home somewhere to get what I want. I only live 3km from my nearest town so it's only 3 mins in the car to get to the shop eitherways.

Not big into pints so I only go to the pub an odd time and it's easy enough and cheap enough to get a taxi home.

SligoBrewer

BattleCorp wrote: »

Seriously???

Yes. I grew up in a one off house, live in an apartment now. I like having a 2 minute cycle to work, walking to the shops and being able to walk for a pint rather than having lifts and driving dictate what i can and can't do.

BattleCorp

SligoBrewer wrote: »

If they are built well I'd much rather live there than in a 1 off house in the country.

Seriously???

iwillhtfu

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Apartments are a good thing to have in general but I can't see the point in building more when the ones thst are there are falling into disrepair.

I've no issue with apartments although carlow does seem to have a ridiculous amount of them, a six storey development is ridiculous and as you say they're left to rack and ruin as the tenants are so transient and no one really feels an apartment block is their own so doesn't bother with the upkeep.

A perfect example are the apartments on the river bank in Graiguecullen they're in a terrible state although I see one block seems to have had some form of refurbishment. I suspect either the council or a private developer bought the entire block.

There is a low rise (3 storey I think) apartment block behind those monstrosities and it's very nice and well kept. Something similar with a properly developed communal area on the site mentioned above would look well.

iwillhtfu

PespiChallenge wrote: »

Montgomory Street is a haven for drug use & dealing throwing in another 78 apartments just continues to turn that area it into a Ballymun.

I see they finally knocked that outhouse on the other site for sale. They have been shooting up in their for months.

It would be great to see the original plans for a hotel and plaza etc go in down there but apartments are certainly not required. The area is already over developed as it is. It would be nice to have seen a skate/bmx park go into a part of that larger site they're clearing.

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Montgomory Street is a haven for drug use & dealing throwing in another 78 apartments just continues to turn that area it into a Ballymun.

iwillhtfu

SligoBrewer wrote: »

There isn't enough apartments in town as it is, and very few that are built to modern standards. If they are built well I'd much rather live there than in a 1 off house in the country. We need to be encouraging people to live in the town and developments like this are part of the solution to our dying town.

Apartments are the solution. How?

SligoBrewer

There isn't enough apartments in town as it is, and very few that are built to modern standards. If they are built well I'd much rather live there than in a 1 off house in the country. We need to be encouraging people to live in the town and developments like this are part of the solution to our dying town.

Nokia6230i

denis160 wrote: »

Is that the old Greenvale Pork & bacon site?

Correct; the Greenvale Pork & Bacon site is the one in green; I had it that was Dept. of Ag. or an abbatoir til these past few posts........

Cue Mr. Devoy having to bribe current occupants off the site me thinks.......?

denis160

Is that the old Greenvale Pork & bacon site?

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The area I shaded in blue is the one I'm thinking of.

The big one ringed in red was due to have a hotel put in there if I remember correctly and the reason the council compulsory bought up land to put in the road.

Agent Coulson

The area I shaded in blue is the one I'm thinking of.

The big one ringed in red was due to have a hotel put in there if I remember correctly and the reason the council compulsory bought up land to put in the road.

ScallionAyter

Be well and win wrote: »

Planning permission on the Nationalist this week for 78 appartments including a 6 story block on Montgomory Street, is that the same one?

Not sure really. I dont think it's the same site. This is the one I'm referring to.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/carlow-town-site-on-river-barrow-sells-for-1-3m-1.3298509?mode=amp

iwillhtfu

Ridiculous putting these high rises there. They inevitably end up in disrepair as can be seen by pretty much all the apartment blocks in the local area.

There's several applications on that larger site that is being cleared among them a hotel and supermarket. I don't see any recent applications but it may not be up to date.

Nokia6230i

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Is this the site across from the old Celtic Linen site?

Is the site big enough for 78 Apartments if it is they will be tiny one beds and god help anyone squashed into them.

See my post above but also to add this there was a Celtic Linen site development planned & okayed in 2010 from a different developer which never proceeded; I presume PP lapses after 5 years if no activity on site?

http://www.eplanning.ie/CarlowCC/AppFileRefDetails/096247/0

"38 No. apartments with a 2,030m2 medical centre, 698m2 convenience retailing and 131 basement car spaces. The building varies in height from 3 to 5 storeys over basement with landscaped plazas and associated works."

Nokia6230i

iwillhtfu wrote: »

I don't see it on the eplanning page. Do you have an application number? I may spin down there tomorrow and take a pic of the planning app.

No app. number in the PP in the paper (nor is there for Play Together which also has PP in for their Athy Rd. site).

Highlights include it's to be divided up into 3 Blocks (Units A, B & C) ranging in height from 4-6 Storeys.

Intermediate public spaces between each block & associated landscaping link the communal amenity spaces of the site to the Barrow Track (guessing this will mean an exit onto and maybe communcal entry from the Barrow Track too?).

38 Car Parking Spaces to be included to rear/NW of the site bordering Hazel Ct. Apts. which're to be screened off from same with a boundary wall & trees.

Provision also for 40 Bicycle parking spaces distributed around the site.

Block A to the south has a gross internal floor space of 2,040 Sq. Metres & is comprised of 3 1 Bed Units, 16 2 Bed Units & 2 x 3 Bedroom Units = 21 Units.

Block A will also include ancillary circulation & plant room & ranges in height from 4-5 Storeys.

Block B is middle of site & has an internal GF space of 2,589 Sq. Metres. & is 3 x 1 Bed Units, 22 x 2 Beds & 2 x 3 Beds; a total of 27 Units....

This will be 6 Storeys high.

Block C is to the North of the site (bordering the car park I imagine?) & has an internal GF space of 2,842 Sq. Metres. 8 x 1 Beds, 22 x 2 Beds with **NO** 3 Beds so a total of 30 Apts. for that block with ancillary circulation & plant room spaces & ranges in height from 4-6 Storeys.

Agent Coulson

Is this the site across from the old Celtic Linen site?

Is the site big enough for 78 Apartments if it is they will be tiny one beds and god help anyone squashed into them.

iwillhtfu

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Just saw the sign this evening as I was passing; place was an abbatoir/Dept. of Ag. site & is currently occupied by a few caravans.

Derek Devoy Ltd. is developer seeking PP for 78 Apts. on site.

Baffled as to why he never (and it's 2-3 years since that site sold I think?) secured the place.

Edited to add it hasn't gone live on Carlow Co. Co. site yet.

I don't see it on the eplanning page. Do you have an application number? I may spin down there tomorrow and take a pic of the planning app.

Nokia6230i

Be well and win wrote: »

afraid not, spotted it in this weeks Nationalist

Just saw the sign this evening as I was passing; place was an abbatoir/Dept. of Ag. site & is currently occupied by a few caravans.

Derek Devoy Ltd. is developer seeking PP for 78 Apts. on site.

Baffled as to why he never (and it's 2-3 years since that site sold I think?) secured the place.

Edited to add it hasn't gone live on Carlow Co. Co. site yet.

Be well and win

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Have you a link to the planning application? I'll be raising a complaint. That area is already ridiculously over developed another high-rise flat complex is not the way forward.

afraid not, spotted it in this weeks Nationalist

Nokia6230i

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Have you a link to the planning application? I'll be raising a complaint. That area is already ridiculously over developed another high-rise flat complex is not the way forward.

Is that not the Athy Rd. site @ Tanner Hall no? South East Builders Ltd.'ve PP gone in for there recently.

iwillhtfu

Be well and win wrote: »

Planning permission on the Nationalist this week for 78 appartments including a 6 story block on Montgomory Street, is that the same one?

Have you a link to the planning application? I'll be raising a complaint. That area is already ridiculously over developed another high-rise flat complex is not the way forward.

Be well and win

ScallionAyter wrote: »

I was curious about that place a while ago and did a folio search to see who bought it when it went up for auction. It was bought by a pair of nordie property developers. They were around during the celtic tiger and built some sh*te apartments in Dundalk that needed remediation works. Anytime I hear of any nordie developers I shudder at the thought... ours were bad enough but those crooks from across the border gave us Priory Hall.

Anyway, the council seem to have made a balls of putting that site on the vacant site register and I think the developer won his appeal. Its up on the pleanala website. I won't be holding my breath waiting for something to happen there.

This crowd own the site, I believe.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dundalk-residents-face-eviction-on-fire-safety-grounds-1.2629953

Planning permission on the Nationalist this week for 78 appartments including a 6 story block on Montgomory Street, is that the same one?

Nokia6230i

[QUOTE=ScallionAyter;114119872

Anyway, the council seem to have made a balls of putting that site on the vacant site register and I think the developer won his appeal. Its up on the pleanala website. I won't be holding my breath waiting for something to happen there.

This crowd own the site, I believe.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dundalk-residents-face-eviction-on-fire-safety-grounds-1.2629953[/QUOTE]

That, the bit in bold. Stands to reason that by clearing the site it counts in planning law that there's been work done on it to avoid being added to said register if the council get their ducks in a row?

Site out on Kilkenny Rd. opposite Dolmen might also come under similar if construction doesn't begin properly again on it; I know some ground works were done & foundations laid but both P.P. & Derelict Sites Orders could both be extended & avoided respectively if some noticeable work is done there; wall of bricks might even suffice legally.

As an aside No. 1 Haymarket is either to go on DSO list or be taken into charge by the council; saw a notice re same in the paper on Tuesday & also it's on the black hoarding in addition to previous orders.

ScallionAyter

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Unsure if any plans for the site but the overgrowth/scrubland that borders the Barrow track/boardwalk & is part of Blue Nuns/Sacred Heart Nursing Home is being/has been somewhat cleared.

I was curious about that place a while ago and did a folio search to see who bought it when it went up for auction. It was bought by a pair of nordie property developers. They were around during the celtic tiger and built some sh*te apartments in Dundalk that needed remediation works. Anytime I hear of any nordie developers I shudder at the thought... ours were bad enough but those crooks from across the border gave us Priory Hall.

Anyway, the council seem to have made a balls of putting that site on the vacant site register and I think the developer won his appeal. Its up on the pleanala website. I won't be holding my breath waiting for something to happen there.

This crowd own the site, I believe.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dundalk-residents-face-eviction-on-fire-safety-grounds-1.2629953

Nokia6230i

Unsure if any plans for the site but the overgrowth/scrubland that borders the Barrow track/boardwalk & is part of Blue Nuns/Sacred Heart Nursing Home is being/has been somewhat cleared.

Be well and win

anyone got any idea why the Garda helecoptor seemed to be doing laps of the town this morning?

D_BEAR

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Signs're on it, or off it as the case may be, that Mr. Snips on Barrack St. has shut up shop.

It was put up for sale on Facebook page about a month ago.

"FOR SALE: Mr Snips Barber Shop.
Spacious 3 station barber shop, in business 8 years in Carlow town. All fittings included.
PM if interested. Serious enquiries only."

Nokia6230i

Signs're on it, or off it as the case may be, that Mr. Snips on Barrack St. has shut up shop.