Beechwoodspark wrote: » Yes I would know gay priests.At moment I have a local priest (useless) who spends a lot of time seeking kinky sex on a gay app - sometimes shows his pic and sometimes doesn’t. Into leather and all this. The whole parish knows he’s at it, he seems to be oblivious and thinks people are unaware. Same guy has a holier than thou attitude. I have met some v v camp priests (and bishops) also over the years.
John Hutton wrote: » Frankly bizarre that people seem to think that one of the main reasons people became priests in the past was because they were gay. It's not that long ago that priests were hunted down in Ireland. Look at poor Oliver Plunkett.
cj maxx wrote: » They did.! How would they earn a living, place to live and still be accepted into the community .
Das Reich wrote: » How do you know it?
howamidifferent wrote: » Twas a way to hide the fact they were gay. Doubt any really believe the rubbish they spout in mass.
RandomViewer wrote: » Up until the early 80s it was considered a big thing to have a priest or nun in the family, lots pushed into it,
John Hutton wrote: » There have been priests for nearly 2000 years... Didn't know the discussion was pinned to the last few years
pgj2015 wrote: » A bit of a mad thought but something that crossed my mind today. you would assume they all do but id say we would be surprised, I reckon some just see it as a handy number or have another reason for becoming a priest.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » I think the majority are actually good people who believe and have faith, its not for me but each to their own i suppose. The church needs to change its stance and allow women to become priests and also allow marraige.
Mad_maxx wrote: » more like into the mid nineties , i grew up in rural ireland , you would often hear the additional ( he had a brother a priest ) when referring to someone who died etc
John Hutton wrote: » Do any of you know actually know any priests? Or just ignorantly speculating? I do, and I don't know how they could do it if they don't believe, or never believed. It's a very tough life. It's ain't just saying Mass for a half hour on a Sunday. Burials, weddings, confessions, counselling, school boards, visiting the sick and dying, administration of a parish(financial and just plain organisation, communions etc), spiritual direction, dealing with headcases moaning because the priest changed a mass time, multiple masses everyday sometimes over 2 parishes, loneliness (for some, more now because in the past priests didn't live alone), last rites to people splattered on a road at 3am, etc. etc. It goes on and on. Plus a significant proportion of society thinking you might be a pedo, and a vocal minority loathing you. All for 24k a year. They wouldn't do it if they didn't believe in God.
Sam Quentin wrote: » I was starting to wonder was this thread a wind-up by some sick people at a house party or something... A horrible thread it was for a deeply Catholic Irish forum.. Not only do all priests believe in God but most Irish people do also.. Anyway thanks for this post, I quoted it because it was the only one of all that made any sense up to that.
Mad_maxx wrote: » i dont see how it does , its not a democracy and shouldnt have to bow to the current PC creed of the day
o1s1n wrote: » Because if it doesn't it's more than likely going to fade into obscurity and vanish. Society is becoming more and more atheistic with every subsequent generation. Something I do enjoy seeing, so am happy for them to continue being a celebate males only club.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Has it occurred to you at all that the reason it has persisted for as long as it has and will continue to do so, is precisely because it portrays itself as a celibate males only club which doesn’t ordain women?
Gregor Samsa wrote: » I did have a Christian Brother religion teacher in secondary school who spent quite a bit of time arguing against the divinity of Jesus, refuting his miracles and stuff like that. Unfortunately most of the class just slept through it, but he had a big impact on me. Seemingly this guy had been a successful business man, but had a drink problem and lost his business. There may have been a drink related accident of some sort involved too. He joined the Brothers in his 40s, in an attempt (as he saw it) to redeem himself and contribute to society without enriching himself.
timthumbni wrote: » Who would let a priest into their home nowadays ffs?
Dutch pastor on 'believing in a God that does not exist' The BBC's religious affairs correspondent Robert Pigott talks to Rev Klaas Hendrikse known in Holland as the "atheist pastor". After writing a book called Believing in a God That Does Not Exist, disciplinary proceedings were taken against him by church authorites. However he remained in his post as it was felt too many people in the Dutch Protestant Church held similar views. A study by the Free University of Amsterdam found that one in six clergy in the Dutch Protestant Church were either agnostic or atheist.https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-14410482/dutch-pastor-on-believing-in-a-god-that-does-not-exist
Kylta wrote: » I wrote this 18years ago. The fiend behind the collar I stand on the altar, to deliver a mass I know people's trust just won't last Jesus loves you, I do pray With God's precious children, I will soon have my way I am very sorry lord for the vows I took I'm the pervert, thatyou overlooked I make them kneel, I can make children bend This urge I have I won't pretend Forgive me father, I'm about to sin To sodomise your children, I'm about to begin I pray to the lord to set me free Then more children I do see A priest in God's house a reward for me Anal butchery is all I see The children scream and start to cry God in heaven let me die My reward for these disgusting crimes A bishops position in the sunshine With this mitre and this cape More of God's children I get to rape Nobody knows the damage I've done In the name of the father and his holy son. Guess if I wrote that in the middle ages. I'd be the number one draw on the auto de fe
beveragelady wrote: » I don't think any adult could really believe in God. Not really, not if they consider it seriously for more than a few seconds. Priests belong to an organisation that had policies and procedures for protecting members from the consequences of their depravity. There's no way any of them really think there's an omniscient being who will make them face judgement and everlasting torture. When I see footage of the pomp and ceremony in the Vatican, the gold leaf and velvet and the hideous excess, I often wish Jesus would float down on a sunbeam and ask them what the fluich they think they're doing, faffing about in unimaginable luxury while people die of preventable disease and hunger. There's simply no way any of them really believe it. It doesn't mean they're all bad people, some of them have bought into it to such an extent that they need to keep pretending, but they know it's all horseapples.
