CatFromHue wrote: » From what I read when you take in the all the allowances it worked out closer to 11bn a year, or 211m a week, that they payed in.
jacothelad wrote: » Useless fool and pile o futter sh*te, Bojob Boris decided that , in answer to a question about the 65,000 deaths on his hands, that making a joke about underpants was appropriate. I bet the Calvin Klein witticism worked really, really well in front of the bedroom mirror yesterday morning. A pity he slipped it into the condolences speech rather than waste it..I'm betting even the mirror cringed.I can't imagine any exchange in which it could be considered a 'zinger'.
swiwi_ wrote: » A plug for “Fringes - Life on the edge of pro rugby”. One of the better rugby books I’ve read, not least because it’s not boring cliched shîte.
Bridge93 wrote: » Ryan has been nothing short of a disaster since the election. Won’t be getting my vote in the future. Greens in trouble long term I feel unless people’s memories fade or the govt does extremely well. Their left leaning voters will see them a sellouts to FFG A pretty significant amount of people were extremely pissed off with their nonsense demands when considering whether to go into govt or not Their leader is a walking trainwreck yet looks likely to stay on in that role I actually feel long term they’ll become less and less relevant. Most of the reasonable and important issues they stand for will be subsumed into mainstream politics as we become more environmentally aware as seen in other countries. What’s left will see the Greens go further and further to the radical extremities. The irrational ones who live in fantasy land
Stheno wrote: » Jeez Jaco, how much time and energy goes into these posts?
irishbucsfan wrote: » I also have an idiotic memory
jacothelad wrote: » Boris Johnson: “We have a world-beating test and trace system” Patrick Vallance “our test and trace systems were hopelessly inadequate” Who to believe? It’s a tough one . The slow dance towards a whitewash inquiry begins. Doris Feckwit begins to line up his scapegoats. Sir Mark Sedwell, the head of teh Civil Service was sacked for trying to tell the truth. Johnson claims that he, Sedwell, drew up plan for the virus. Unfortunately Blowjob made a bit of an error this morning when he admitted that the science was advisory but that decisions based on that advice were ...well...his. That will soon change of course. The decisions will not actually have been Dumbo's own brainwaves but those of the bunch of sycophants and imbeciles he brought in to his cabinet. In his own eyes and those of the Daily Fail he will be exonerated and Matt Handoncock, Raaaaaab, Goveslime and Priti F*cking Awful are to blame.. He probably should have stuck to the well polished lie that "we followed the science"... Well they didn't. Vallance himself has said that they advised the useless Porkspunk in February that they should introduce lockdown as a matter of urgency. 6,435 elderly patients were discharged from hospital with 4000+ untested into care homes from March 19. to April 16th YES. 6,435....In 4 weeks.. Patients with known Covid were sent to seed the catastrophe in care homes across the nation. These callous Tory scum flooded care homes with sick patients for no reason other than protecting Fatbastard's slogan.. 'Protect The Nhs'....The Tories didn't want our t.v. screens nightly to show the utter carnage that happened in Spain and Italy so they removed the problem to the thousands of private care homes well away from the prying eyes of the press.The NHS is there to protect us not the other way round. That is why we pay for the fecking thing. What about Vallance? Well he never came across as the sharpest tool in the box. How it took him so long to figure out he was just a human shield for Burbling Billy Bunter speaks volumes. I think he has at last caught on that he was being suckered by a callous and vindictive oaf and he has begun to lay the grounds for his fight back. Someone has sewn a pair on to Vallace who is now via the Committee on Science in Westminster, laying the blame where it belongs...with Johnson and his gang of crooks. He was asked, " Was it true that there had never been any significant occasions when the government had ignored the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) advice." The chief scientific advisor said his only job was to provide the government with the scientific evidence. What idiotic decisions happened to be taken as a result of that advice was completely up to the government. To suggest there was any correlation between the advice Sage might have given and government policy was absurd. Any overlap could only ever be a coincidence. The Chairman ,Clark then gently tiptoed into trickier areas. The UK hadn’t had particularly good coronavirus outcomes – a euphemism for the highest mortality rate in the world – and it was hard to find any country that particularly admired the standard of our science. How did he account for that? “The outcomes have not been good,” Vallance agreed. But that was entirely because the UK’s data flow had been poor and because our test and trace systems were hopelessly inadequate. He and other members of Sage had been complaining to Public Health England and the Department for Health and Social Care about this for months, but neither body had taken a blind piece of notice. Just as he had flagged up concerns about the risk of transmission in care homes and been totally ignored. Face masks? Vallance was for them months ago but Bog****e wasn't interested. It wouldn't affect him so we wasn't interested. The killer line came when Vallance insisted Sage had recommended an immediate total lockdown on 16 March. He couldn’t understand why the government’s testing programme was still so rubbish as on current evidence Matt Hancock didn’t have a prayer of reaching his winter targets .All he had ever done was present the evidence as he saw it – even if he had been a bit slow on the uptake at times – and if the government had acted irresponsibly then it was nothing to do with him, Guv. Over to you Boris and Matt. Of course the government throughout this crisis have conveniently stated that they have always followed the science when of course it only ever followed the science when it suited them which was extremely rare as the only thing they followed was their own ideological politics. The government is in deep waters without a life raft. It was revealed by Sir Patrick Valance that lockdown was recommended by SAGE on the 16th of March. And last week independent sage estimated that the delay from the 13th of March to the 23rd of March, 10 days in all would be responsible for a very large number of deaths. Allowing three days for action, which is what it took Sage, that means a seven day delay. And Independent Sage actually estimated last week that a seven day delay would be responsible for a fourfold increase in deaths. It follows that the number of deaths were caused by this delay were therefore in the vicinity of 50,000+. In other words if lockdown has happened on the 16th of March instead of the 23rd 50,000 people who have died would still be alive.The fourfold increase is simply based upon the exponential rate of rise of infections that was doubling twice in a week, hence the fourfold increase. I had made the same estimate myself, rather larger than the number but a huge number of unnecessary deaths, however you interpret the statistics. And this is the thing, when we could all see that there was a disconnect between SAGE and the Government, silence. Wouldn’t it have been great if Vallance had spoken out sooner and said what he is saying now? It stinks. It takes men and women with bloody balls to speak out in the moment not after the event. And what happen to that other scientist Jennie Harries? She was a total disgrace. I tell you who I would have loved to have been questioned, Professor Van Tam. He truly was the man of the moment.I said a long time ago that they obviously lack self respect. I would not have been able to keep my mouth shut had I been in that situation where I knew politics was being played in that way, regardless of if it was my party or not.He would have lost his job, but he'd have kept his self respect and gained the respect of others. There is a wealth of informed information coming out from Independent Sage. At first ridiculed by many but they kept presenting the science with not flag to fly or honour beyond that of their profession SAGE,PHE, Vallance and Harries only have themselves to blame. They came across as forelock tugging sycophants as the promenade in front of the cameras for their 15 minutes of fame as Johnson and Hancock sniggered up their sleeves at them setting themselves up as patsies, fall guys, mugs. The naked transparency of the government was all too plain for all to see, how they couldn’t see it is beyond me. Advisers should have advised a lockdown a lot earlier than 16th March. As a bioscientist (retired) I followed the news and data from the UK and abroad. My wife and I started our self isolation on 29th February. If I could read the situation, and so could many of my ex- colleagues, why couldn't Vallance? I have no time for Johnson, but Vallance? He failed professionally to a large degree. Then there is the fiasco over testing, the shortage of protective equipment, the tide of death surging through care homes and — crucially — the failure to lock down the country more quickly. Earlier that week, Dominic Cummings, Johnson’s iconoclastic chief adviser, told political colleagues in a Zoom call from the cabinet room — a none-too-subtle symbol of his power — that he would use the crisis to reshape the British state, adding: “A hard rain is coming.”
stephen_n wrote: » https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1282915698604376064?s=21 Not sure if you saw this, but thought you’d like it.
Neil3030 wrote: » Jaco, would you have any thoughts on the anatomy of Johnson's idiocy? To me, the most striking aspect of his behaviour mirrors Trump; that is, he chronically needs to make an immediate positive impression, regardless of who he's talking to. To hell with whatever the original plan may have been, if one person in the room doesn't like it, he flip flops to try please them (the hand-shaking press conference is a great example). While this chronic desire to please may look like narcissism, some scholars would instead frame it as a low grade psychosis. You can't form a stable model of the world in your mind, and instead respond impulsively to short-term opportunities of reward. If you primarily operate in social setting, this becomes chronic people pleasing. If you're instead more withdrawn, you may turn to other reward sources like substance abuse and the like. Trump may not be any less psychotic, however he emits far stronger evidence of pure narcissism in his behaviour. Trump needs constant reassurance that he's the best, that he's the smartest. The one thing he will never tolerate is laughter aimed at him. Johnson seems less self-obsessed when clamouring to make everyone in the room happy, often, in fact, deliberately making a fool of himself. (mfceiling you can go away and f*** yourself if you come near me with that Homer picture again :pac:)
thomond2006 wrote: » Jacothelad, I'm intrigued by your points and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
jacothelad wrote: » I could PM you a link but your message box is full. Make some room......:D
[Deleted User] wrote: » His inbox is full of angry but detailed take downs from Buer that continue to go unread.
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wa.vanillicon.com/v2/ad289898c0c6dda7e667bf900ae26d0c.svg)
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://w6.vanillicon.com/v2/6081e4655739e0887aaf16222f88b015.svg)
