ncounties wrote: » The Main Street. Yes. No (What does that matter?). The fact that it is an expansive town at present, is exactly why we need to tackle it. We don't need even more urban sprawl on the island, which promotes the use of vehicles. And there's plenty of space. Within 85-200m (which ever way you like to look at it) of the Main St there is green fields, all the way to the existing line. Extend a DART there, create a development plan that involves denser housing and office space close to the Main Street and you'd could transform the town.
MJohnston wrote: » Anyway... I don’t think a new Naas DART station is a bad idea, but it definitely doesn’t need to go into the town centre. What Naas needs imo is something like the Dunboyne M3 Parkway station - massive park and ride well connected to a major motorway, somewhat outside of the town itself. Maybe just to the west of Sallins. The main issue is always going to be the 7km of green fields between Kill and Rathcoole. One could argue that there could be enough usage from park and riders from Kildare town and Newbridge, but that’s a fair distance for a hypothetical DART to travel without anywhere worth stopping.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Wait, you're suggesting we build "brand new track"? Get out! Where do you think this is, Victorian Ireland? --- I had the pleasure of heading from the Harbour to Sallins for about a year back in 2017 and yeah, i can only imagine the joy of getting on a town centre train station. But you see, this is Ireland, so let's not try. A train station within a couple of minutes walk of main Street with a regular service to Dublin would transform the town. And would make it a viable place to live and disincentivise the awful sprawl that is the norm. That's what transport hubs do the world over to deny that is just bizarre.
MJohnston wrote: What Naas needs imo is something like the Dunboyne M3 Parkway station - massive park and ride well connected to a major motorway, somewhat outside of the town itself. Maybe just to the west of Sallins. The main issue is always going to be the 7km of green fields between Kill and Rathcoole. One could argue that there could be enough usage from park and riders from Kildare town and Newbridge, but that’s a fair distance for a hypothetical DART to travel without anywhere worth stopping.
cgcsb wrote: » I'd much rather 3 or 4 bus corridors were built in naas including one to Sallins with frequent local bus services on all routes and the Sallins route being free to use.
riddlinrussell wrote: » I think this is the most viable way forward. If rail were to be reinstated to Naas, its hard to see where the route would go to still reach the centre. But 'if' it were ever to happen, I'd say Naas town should be the end of the Dart route, link in east of Sallins to 4 track into the city, meanwhile Sallins becomes the 'long distance' station, itself or Celbridge being the last stop to Heuston, and outward stoppers either allowing access to all outward routes or being timed to allow easy transfer to an intercity at Newbridge or Kildare without an hours wait. EDIT: I think it was proposed before, but a better alternative to a 'Central' Naas Station might be a Dart Spur going to Johnstown/Junction 9 roundabout, the old factory site there would provide the basis for ample park and ride capacity and the spur route could pass pretty much unimpeded from there to meet the main line. Your biggest issue is getting under/over the Motorway. Plus its already naturally on the bus routes from Naas to Dublin
ncounties wrote: » But sure, 14km of additional electrified line, and three km of new track across green fields is just pure crazy talk, and additionally what the hell would I know, I only have a Transport Planning Degree (albeit I don't work in the field) and I'm posting on a forum that is supposed to welcome and discuss "outside the box" thinking.
Grandeeod wrote: » I don't wish to have any kind of row with you, but your Transport Planning Degree regardless of you not working in the field, does not qualify you to be right about the Naas area. Its speculative and I apologise for being a bit blunt towards your suggestion earlier in the thread. This particular thread is not about "thinking outside the box". Its about DART expansion as proposed. I have often been directed towards other threads or starting my own if my opinion is not thread relevant.
L1011 wrote: » Ann Graham told KCC this morning that the Maynooth line public consultation period is "shortly"
Kevtherev1 wrote: » I meant to post about Kishoge station recently. On google streetview it set summer 2019 you can see the construction work happening. Drove past kishoge train station 10 days ago. The work is complete with all access roads and large car park completed, ready to open. It really looked great.
loyatemu wrote: » I see from the Fingluas consultation the Dart expansion is now called "Dart+"
Niall Finnegan wrote: » Hopefully this means there's some upcoming news on the project
crushproof wrote: » Easy few thousand quid for the marketing genius who came up with that.
ncounties wrote: » What's going to be the new name for DART Underground/Interconnector... "DART -"?
Sam Russell wrote: » .... just DURT - Dart Underground Rapid Transit.
highdef wrote: » I read that as Dublin Area Rapid Transit Underground Rapid Transit ???
loyatemu wrote: » so the existing line could be Dublin Overground Rapid Transit, or the DORT, which is what they already call it in Blackrock.
