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Eamon Ryan had to be woken up today during a Dail session.

https://amp.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/green-party-leader-eamon-ryan-caught-sleeping-during-dail-vote-39374326.html?__twitter_impression=true

Farce or a serious reflection on this new minister?

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Del.Monte

stoneill wrote: »

What would happen to you or I if we were caught sleeping while in work? I know that I would be disciplined, perhaps even sacked.
What will happen to Eamonn Ryan? Probably nothing.

Perhaps he will have a look at himself in the mirror and give himself a good talking to? But then of course the detractors would say he's a lunatic and medically unfit to be leader. He's the ****ing leader and nothing will happen to him. The sooner he sees off the disloyal rabble in his party like Catherine Martin - the better.

Kivaro

Not a big fan of Eamonn, but genuinely felt bad for the man when the news broke.

By the way if a very brief nap was introduced into the workforce, it would allow workers to be more productive overall. The time for this 15 - 30 minute power nap could be added on to the end of the work day for those who wanted to avail of it. I know it would be difficult to practically implement, but from research the benefits to the worker's health and productivity would make it worthwhile.

Lillyfae

ronivek wrote: »

Also you haven’t the first clue why he may have fallen asleep; you don’t know if he’s suffering from any health issues or taking any medication which might make him drowsy, you don’t know if he has been struggling to sleep for any number of reasons, or if his sleep last night was interrupted by some family emergency.

Ya I can see it coming out in a couple of weeks that he's sick or someone at home is sick and the public will be doing a complete 180 just like Brian Lenihan or Tony Holohan. Poor Eamon, what a lovely man, blablabla.

He fell asleep at work. I'd be feeling sorry for him more than anything.

[Deleted User]

Del.Monte wrote: »

Thread is a joke fort the mos part - 'the perpetually want to be outraged brigade' out in force - let's have another GE because Eamonn Ryan nodded off ffs! As others have said in the thread, anyone claiming not to have nodded off at boring meetings/ presentations is a liar and most of us would not be working under anything like the pressure that Eamonn Ryan is under.

Once the lights dim and the mind numbing power point presentation starts I'm gone - switched out rather than sleeping - and the seating would never have been as comfy as that currently in use by our TDs.

I have never fallen asleep in work, I am not a "liar". I don't think falling asleep in work is as common as some of you appear to believe.

Look it's not exactly a firing offence, certainly not, but he was to make an important decision on the employment of people who stand on their feet all day.

It's worth remarking on, and I suspect the remarks from some quarters would be a little more pointed if this had happened to Mary Lou McDonald. I don't believe for a moment that some of you would still be minimising it.

For good or for bad, a politician snoozing while the Dail is deciding the conditions for low-paid workers is the kind of thing that sticks in people's memory; I think it will will be dragged into the GP leadershp vote. In that sense, it is worth acknowledging.

Kivaro wrote: »

Not a big fan of Eamonn, but genuinely felt bad for the man when the news broke.

By the way if a very brief nap was introduced into the workforce, it would allow workers to be more productive overall. The time for this 15 - 30 minute power nap could be added on to the end of the work day for those who wanted to avail of it. I know it would be difficult to practically implement, but from research the benefits to the worker's health and productivity would make it worthwhile.

Quiet rooms/ low sensory spaces where you can nap are already a feature in some Dublin workplaces. They're probably a great idea, if you're the kind of person who can do a powernap.

Del.Monte

There's work and there's work, he wasn't flying a jumbo jet or performing brain surgery, he was listening to somebody droning on and was in a very comfy seat - end of. Trying to make out that he didn't care about the subject matter under discussion is disingenuous. Mountain and mole hill comes to mind.

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Kivaro wrote: »

Not a big fan of Eamonn, but genuinely felt bad for the man when the news broke.

By the way if a very brief nap was introduced into the workforce, it would allow workers to be more productive overall. The time for this 15 - 30 minute power nap could be added on to the end of the work day for those who wanted to avail of it. I know it would be difficult to practically implement, but from research the benefits to the worker's health and productivity would make it worthwhile.

Agree completely! I'm actually laughing at some of the outrage here - keyboard warriors out for the kill, foaming at the mouth, people who are not human, who never feel sick, tired, exhausted. On Newstalk right now they are reading out dozens of texts from people who fell asleep at work. One was a paramedic who could not stay awake in the back of of the ambulance and regularly fell asleep transporting elderly people to hospital!

Another who fell asleep driving a ride on lawn mower at a golf club, someone else doing a road survey at the side of the road and he fell asleep on the hard shoulder!

Laugh a bit guys, chill, be human! God almighty in Spain and France they have a siesta for this very reason. In mid summer in heat like we had yesterday, business men dress up in full suit and tie (as Eamonn was) expected to listen to the new Minister for Education droning on for 2 hours! Who wouldn't fall asleep?

The desire to fall asleep becomes almost impossible to control. This is not something Eamonn Ryan did deliberately! Try staying awake when you have had a long day and sit down to watch TV, try staying awake when its hot and you've been driving a few hours after a long day at work (I always need to pull off the road for a nap). This is not disrespect and to suggest that is laughable!

The permanently outraged, fuming, angry people who spend their days on boards being angry need to step away for a bit and take a walk. We are all human. Even if Leo or Michael fell asleep I would see the funny, and the human side of it!

Shefwedfan

https://www.independent.ie/videos/foolish-to-think-that-virus-can-know-if-youre-eating-with-your-pint-or-not-danny-healy-rae-39373650.html

Wouldnt you fall asleep if you had to listen to this s**t all day

phonypony

Del.Monte wrote: »

There's work and there's work, he wasn't flying a jumbo jet or performing brain surgery, he was listening to somebody droning on and was in a very comfy seat - end of. Trying to make out that he didn't care about the subject matter under discussion is disingenuous. Mountain and mole hill comes to mind.

A role in which his nap would actually be legitimate and acceptable...

JohnnyFlash

seenitall wrote: »

When I read the thread title, naive me thought that there was a politician so dedicated to his job that he was spending even his nights in the Dail. Alas, no.

Why would someone spend their nights in the Dáil? It’s closed. It’s always weird that people expect attributes from politicians that they rarely have themselves - humility, hard work, absolute integrity, the patience of a saint, the intellect of a professor etc.

Shefwedfan

stoneill wrote: »

What would happen to you or I if we were caught sleeping while in work? I know that I would be disciplined, perhaps even sacked.
What will happen to Eamonn Ryan? Probably nothing.

What do you want done to him?

Del.Monte

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What do you want done to him?

Put him in the stocks at Dublin Castle or whip him to death with a wet lettuce. :rolleyes:

gifted

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What do you want done to him?

Strap him to a wind turbine ......

In a bog

jammiedodgers

I love the comparisons to the ordinary worker in this thread.

BuT eVeRyOne HaS FalLeN AsleeP In a MeEtINg

Ah first of all, no, we all haven't. Second of all we're not elected representatives voting on bills in the national parliament to pay people a wage they can actually live on.

lawrencesummers

Personally I think that falling asleep while doing the core function of your highly paid position is worse than driving a car after two pints (not that I believe the recently demoted TD only had two pints)

893bet

Perhaps he had been working 80 hour weeks for weeks on end........

Who knows.

Between working full time, commuting and part time farming I do 80 hours easily and def nod off here and there. Especially if on a teams meeting.

gmisk

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Personally I think that falling asleep while doing the core function of your highly paid position is worse than driving a car after two pints (not that I believe the recently demoted TD only had two pints)

Totally disagree.
He nodded off....he wasn't impaired with drink while driving a car...not in the least bit comparable.
I am much more annoyed about how he voted tbh than the fact he nodded off. Sure Mattie McGrath did the same video footage of him asleep at same sitting

Shefwedfan

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Personally I think that falling asleep while doing the core function of your highly paid position is worse than driving a car after two pints (not that I believe the recently demoted TD only had two pints)

Yes because falling asleep is the same as driving around potentially killing someone

Seriously

Millionaire only not

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Personally I think that falling asleep while doing the core function of your highly paid position is worse than driving a car after two pints (not that I believe the recently demoted TD only had two pints)

I think the carry on with Barry cowen can only be seeing as nothing better than bullying to highest degree and some people should be taken up for it .

Not defending cowen but People have a breaking point he only got a 3 month ban so must be minuscule what he was over . An entirely different matter if it was 12 month ban for highly intoxicated.

His learner driver license must have cost him a fortune on his insurance!

Ush1

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Sure didn't we give some of them a round of applause like.

Can you imagine if all the people on less than the living wage just downed tools for one day.
One day of little to no cleaners, baristas, childcare workers, retail workers, wait staff, bar staff, security, etc etc.

23% of the workforce says f this, do it without us since you don't think we deserve to be paid enough to live on.

Unfortunately it's not that simple. Everything has a knock on effect.

gmisk

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I think the carry on with Barry cowen can only be seeing as nothing better than bullying to highest degree and some people should be taken up for it .

Not defending cowen but People have a breaking point he only got a 3 month ban so must be minuscule what he was over . An entirely different matter if it was 12 month ban for highly intoxicated.

His learner driver license must have cost him a fortune on his insurance!

I'm not defending Cowen....then goes on to defend Cowen.
He was caught over the limit while on a provisional, seemingly after doing a u-turn to avoid. He was also on a provisional for 15+ years....so your saying he was accompanied on all of his journeys over that 15 years that he needed to be?
He was also done for speeding.
Let's see what else is to possibly come out.
Him and MM made a hash of it all, if he had been upfront and answered questions it would have blown over.

castle2012

How many people have went for a snooze in the Dáil over the years. Not a big deal at all

Eric Cartman

Im seeing posts online defending ryan by playing the whataboutery game pointing out that matty mcgrath also ‘fell asleep’ and calling him a ‘far right spokesperson’ whats all that about

Feisar

gmisk wrote: »

Totally disagree.
He nodded off....he wasn't impaired with drink while driving a car...not in the least bit comparable.
I am much more annoyed about how he voted tbh than the fact he nodded off. Sure Mattie McGrath did the same video footage of him asleep at same sitting

I believe people virtue signal over a couple of pints to much. Anyone who has ever driven tired isn't in a position to criticize.

nthclare

He was being economic with his work life balance, this goes to show what we're dealing with in the Greens.

They're falling asleep at the wheel,and are driving home a good message that's for sure.

Looks like his cycle is complete, I wonder how he'll peddle his way out of this one

[Deleted User]

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Personally I think that falling asleep while doing the core function of your highly paid position is worse than driving a car after two pints (not that I believe the recently demoted TD only had two pints)

How is that worse?

The people responsible for establishing our laws should be responsible enough to adhere to the most straightforward of them. But even if we leave that aside, we know that even a small amount of alcohol can increase your risks of a road traffic collision to a surprisingly great extent.

For example, a blood alcohol level of only 0.01% (10mg/dL) makes a driver 40% - 50% more likely to cause an accident than a fully sober driver.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51234556_The_relationship_between_serious_injury_and_blood_alcohol_concentration_BAC_in_fatal_motor_vehicle_accidents_BAC001_is_associated_with_significantly_more_dangerous_accidents_than_BAC000

Barry Cowen would have been twice that level, with at least 20mg/dL alcohol in his system.

Yurt2

Fianna Fáil drunk at the wheel, Greens asleep at the wheel, and Fine Gael claiming wheels don't grow on trees and a report from an independent auditor due in Q3 of next year should be commissioned into the purchase of a gold plated wheel signed off by Simon Coveney as to if it is prudent use of public funds going forward.

tayto lover

He was probably dreaming of some new shyt scheme to burden the taxpayer.

StackSteevens

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yeah, cos it's not like there are hard working people struggling to get by. :rolleyes:

This is the problem with Boards! :rolleyes:

Someone who evidently hasn't a clue about how things works appears genuinely to believe that some opposition TD spouting pious waffle about a High Court verdict will, by some voodoo magic, manage to change things. And writes what he believes was a clever put down but which serves mainly to highlight his ignorance!

If the Soc Dems had genuinely wanted to change things, then they could have opted to participate in shouldering the burden of steering Ireland out of the economic consequences of the pandemic. But that evidently sounded like far too much hard work for their two ageing leaderettes, so they took the coward's option and continued to squat on the fence, impotently preaching, moralising and impressing the gullible (like poor Zebra3) while achieving absolutely nothing.

Foolishly, I wasted my no. 1 on a Soc Dem back in February, but hell will have frozen over before I make that mistake again.

RandomViewer

Ush1 wrote: »

Unfortunately it's not that simple. Everything has a knock on effect.

Cost of living has to come down, tying rent prices to energy rating for houses /apartments would lower prices, either spend on insulation or rent the house for a minimal amount, they won't spend so rents will fall,

JimmyVik

RandomViewer wrote: »

Cost of living has to come down, tying rent prices to energy rating for houses /apartments would lower prices, either spend on insulation or rent the house for a minimal amount, they won't spend so rents will fall,

Probably just sell.