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Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

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Man with broke phone

beerbellybob wrote: »

so hard to believe he would go to the wake...

Apparently was a bit mad, lived a double fantasy life where he was a secret informant, double agent, worked all sides, one of the sunday journos says they got plenty of phonecalls off him offering info.

Eyes1

Didn’t JD have a kid with JT’s sister or am I thinking of someone else?

beerbellybob

gangstergossip wrote: »

From what I heard little was getting his stuff through flashy and then start knocking out on the same level as him. He would of been doing just as much work in coolock as flashy was in finglas and then he stopped getting his **** from ears but was still been supplied by cancers fellas. Ears was getting jealous about little and there was but of competition going on with them and showing off. The Iranian met cancer in Spain and cancer sent him over as muscle for ears in finglas and they telling everyone he was an isis executioneer and that he beheaded people and all but all spoofing. Ears still wanted prove he was bigger than little and got the Iranian and Cs to tell him to drive out that road for a chat about something else but the boys were tooled up and were trying to force little to ring a certain fella and set him up for the boys to do him. Little told them **** off and the Iranian couldn't take it and shot him and ears and Cs panicked. The iranian thought he could do what he liked coz he was meant be cancer personnel hitman and wasn't worried about retaliation but was worried about the garda and booked flights to leave the country but went to little wake first. Little family and friends found out he was coming and cameras on the gaf were pushed up away form the garden. After the iranian got it ears and all start panicking coz they didn't think anyone would touch someone connected to cancer and try distance them self's from it all

so hard to believe he would go to the wake...

Jimmy McGill

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I will unreported the first poster who tells me who ears is, would it be Bernard's sworn enemy?

Flashy

Man with broke phone

I will unreported the first poster who tells me who ears is, would it be Bernard's sworn enemy?

Ucntcme

ElZee wrote: »

Thank ****. Can we all just take 2 seconds to report anyone else who posts complete ****e, will clean up this thread a lot.

Imagine getting upset by what someone pists on the internet. Sort your life out, loser

Can you guess who once said that ElZee??

MTKcleaners

Wonder who this might be, in his 50,s

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/darndale-park-garda-incident-dublin-18603293

gangstergossip

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

You hear anything about JD getting done in then a day after Little?

Same as what's on here had nothing to do with it

bigsuge1

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

And what I’m getting at if it’s not clear is that CL has obv been taken under the wing of Giller and other senior figures in the locality. Giller and others prob going to have not much issue with SH being whacked, but Is prob not going to encourage a pop on RR, especially if it was over an internal issue like a debt to RR from JD. RR and JD were friends and associates prior to this. The lads down the supply chain need to know there is consequences for ****ing around. This is of course presuming it was RR behind it. Which is still an ‘if’ ....

This photo proves that being in the game isn’t worth it. Two close friends one minute the next out for blood. I’m all for people doing small bits between mates and making a few extra quid on top of your wage I done it for many years but the second you’re taking on kilos and not paying people that’s when you fall into the fair game/stupid category. Still sad none the less.

Will be interesting how long Big keeps everything under control in Coolock etc with CL and co being so fearless at what 18? Either the king will be dethroned one day or the up and comers will need to put down.

Ciro Di Marzio

gangstergossip wrote: »

Ears didn't know little was going to be shot they wanted to bully him into luring another certain fella out to be shot basically trying show little he was still king of the kids. Ears and all panicked when little got shot even more after the Iranian got it. Cs didn't know little was gonna be killed that's why he could pass the test and he didn't pull the trigger the Iranians ego got hurt when little told them to **** them self's and he shot little. Ears distanced himself from it because when there was no hit back from cancer over the iraniian he knew he was in bother and but he got them to bring little out that road for a chat but it was really to make little lure another fella out to be done

You hear anything about JD getting done in then a day after Little?

bigsuge1

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

And what I’m getting at if it’s not clear is that CL has obv been taken under the wing of Giller and other senior figures in the locality. Giller and others prob going to have not much issue with SH being whacked, but Is prob not going to encourage a pop on RR, especially if it was over an internal issue like a debt to RR from JD. RR and JD were friends and associates prior to this. The lads down the supply chain need to know there is consequences for ****ing around. This is of course presuming it was RR behind it. Which is still an ‘if’ ....[

gangstergossip

Eyes1 wrote: »

If CS was sent out the road by GW to get Little to lure someone out & ended up getting it himself (comes with the territory) why was CS then turned on by ears and his lot? Doesn’t sound like he done much wrong to be turned against hence his pleading of innocence to them.

I thought CS was doing his own thing when he done Little and this is why ears and that mob turned on him. Still not fully convinced ears had anything to do with it.

Sanambar then done by ears boys as payback for Little.

Just a hunch.

Ears didn't know little was going to be shot they wanted to bully him into luring another certain fella out to be shot basically trying show little he was still king of the kids. Ears and all panicked when little got shot even more after the Iranian got it. Cs didn't know little was gonna be killed that's why he could pass the test and he didn't pull the trigger the Iranians ego got hurt when little told them to **** them self's and he shot little. Ears distanced himself from it because when there was no hit back from cancer over the iraniian he knew he was in bother and but he got them to bring little out that road for a chat but it was really to make little lure another fella out to be done

GerryFog

MelvinWagstaff wrote: »

Yes your whole post is guesswork. You didn't mention that this was your theory in your original post you put it as if it was fact and not fiction.

It was pretty obviously guess work. My final paragraph even theorises 3 different scenarios regarding Samibars death...

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Ciro Di Marzio

Eyes1 wrote: »

If CS was sent out the road by GW to get Little to lure someone out & ended up getting it himself (comes with the territory) why was CS then turned on by ears and his lot? Doesn’t sound like he done much wrong to be turned against hence his pleading of innocence to them.

I thought CS was doing his own thing when he done Little and this is why ears and that mob turned on him. Still not fully convinced ears had anything to do with it.

Sanambar then done by ears boys as payback for Little.

Just a hunch.

Of all the things spoke of, one which is more or less known is that HS was taken out by a 3 man team that included 2 close associates of SL, and CL.

Eyes1

gangstergossip wrote: »

From what I heard little was getting his stuff through flashy and then start knocking out on the same level as him. He would of been doing just as much work in coolock as flashy was in finglas and then he stopped getting his **** from ears but was still been supplied by cancers fellas. Ears was getting jealous about little and there was but of competition going on with them and showing off. The Iranian met cancer in Spain and cancer sent him over as muscle for ears in finglas and they telling everyone he was an isis executioneer and that he beheaded people and all but all spoofing. Ears still wanted prove he was bigger than little and got the Iranian and Cs to tell him to drive out that road for a chat about something else but the boys were tooled up and were trying to force little to ring a certain fella and set him up for the boys to do him. Little told them **** off and the Iranian couldn't take it and shot him and ears and Cs panicked. The iranian thought he could do what he liked coz he was meant be cancer personnel hitman and wasn't worried about retaliation but was worried about the garda and booked flights to leave the country but went to little wake first. Little family and friends found out he was coming and cameras on the gaf were pushed up away form the garden. After the iranian got it ears and all start panicking coz they didn't think anyone would touch someone connected to cancer and try distance them self's from it all

If CS was sent out the road by GW to get Little to lure someone out & ended up getting it himself (comes with the territory) why was CS then turned on by ears and his lot? Doesn’t sound like he done much wrong to be turned against hence his pleading of innocence to them.

I thought CS was doing his own thing when he done Little and this is why ears and that mob turned on him. Still not fully convinced ears had anything to do with it.

Sanambar then done by ears boys as payback for Little.

Just a hunch.

Ciro Di Marzio

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/darndale-park-garda-incident-dublin-18603293

Ciro Di Marzio

gangstergossip wrote: »

From what I heard little was getting his stuff through flashy and then start knocking out on the same level as him. He would of been doing just as much work in coolock as flashy was in finglas and then he stopped getting his **** from ears but was still been supplied by cancers fellas. Ears was getting jealous about little and there was but of competition going on with them and showing off. The Iranian met cancer in Spain and cancer sent him over as muscle for ears in finglas and they telling everyone he was an isis executioneer and that he beheaded people and all but all spoofing. Ears still wanted prove he was bigger than little and got the Iranian and Cs to tell him to drive out that road for a chat about something else but the boys were tooled up and were trying to force little to ring a certain fella and set him up for the boys to do him. Little told them **** off and the Iranian couldn't take it and shot him and ears and Cs panicked. The iranian thought he could do what he liked coz he was meant be cancer personnel hitman and wasn't worried about retaliation but was worried about the garda and booked flights to leave the country but went to little wake first. Little family and friends found out he was coming and cameras on the gaf were pushed up away form the garden. After the iranian got it ears and all start panicking coz they didn't think anyone would touch someone connected to cancer and try distance them self's from it all

Who were CS and SH trying to get Little to lure out the road?

Ciro Di Marzio

And what I’m getting at if it’s not clear is that CL has obv been taken under the wing of Giller and other senior figures in the locality. Giller and others prob going to have not much issue with SH being whacked, but Is prob not going to encourage a pop on RR, especially if it was over an internal issue like a debt to RR from JD. RR and JD were friends and associates prior to this. The lads down the supply chain need to know there is consequences for ****ing around. This is of course presuming it was RR behind it. Which is still an ‘if’ ....

gangstergossip

From what I heard little was getting his stuff through flashy and then start knocking out on the same level as him. He would of been doing just as much work in coolock as flashy was in finglas and then he stopped getting his **** from ears but was still been supplied by cancers fellas. Ears was getting jealous about little and there was but of competition going on with them and showing off. The Iranian met cancer in Spain and cancer sent him over as muscle for ears in finglas and they telling everyone he was an isis executioneer and that he beheaded people and all but all spoofing. Ears still wanted prove he was bigger than little and got the Iranian and Cs to tell him to drive out that road for a chat about something else but the boys were tooled up and were trying to force little to ring a certain fella and set him up for the boys to do him. Little told them **** off and the Iranian couldn't take it and shot him and ears and Cs panicked. The iranian thought he could do what he liked coz he was meant be cancer personnel hitman and wasn't worried about retaliation but was worried about the garda and booked flights to leave the country but went to little wake first. Little family and friends found out he was coming and cameras on the gaf were pushed up away form the garden. After the iranian got it ears and all start panicking coz they didn't think anyone would touch someone connected to cancer and try distance them self's from it all

Ciro Di Marzio

bigsuge1 wrote: »

CL1 and co were quick to wack Sanimbar over Little so why didn’t they get RR for setting up Davis?

Davis and CL1 were very close, way closer than he would have been with Little. There’s multiple pictures of them together on Facebook going back years.

Where does RR fit into the scene?

Sanambar is an outsider by nature and no one was going to mourn him as he was in the cross hairs for a nasty double cross on Little at the time. RR in contrast would be a much more dangerous hit for the lads(Little fam/friends/Moatview boys) and there would be retaliation. Plus there is a still a pecking order that usually is followed regarding this type of stuff. RR Is a more senior figure than JD, with connections to other more senior figures in the area.

Look into what Sanambar was upto in the year or so before the murder. Easy to see why there may have been plenty of people happy to see him hit, not just over
SL hit.Think about other trigger jobs CL was involved in at the time.

420munky

MMAbhoy wrote: »

Men, how many grams are in a 50 bag of weed nowadays ? Just told it was 2 grams in a 50 bag. Surely not ?

It depends where your at and what ur getting , most 50 chats 3g maybe 3.5g , then u have a drought like now and u can charge what you can get and give what ya want ,,

Thesiger

bigsuge1 wrote: »

Where does RR fit into the scene?

He has his own operation around Coolock and Donaghmede working with a few guys who mostly never get mentioned on here. The one exception being the Budweiser Weetabix clown.

He was mates with Davis too.

bigsuge1

CL1 and co were quick to wack Sanimbar over Little so why didn’t they get RR for setting up Davis?

Davis and CL1 were very close, way closer than he would have been with Little. There’s multiple pictures of them together on Facebook going back years.

Where does RR fit into the scene?

Thesiger

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

That was a big line at the time, that the 3 boys ZP, SL and JD has fallen out with the Zombie ...and he had put contracts out on them...that theory seemed to drop off over time though

What about the Baldoyle ex-soldier though? We don’t see him mentioned anywhere, then in pops this random poster who name-drops him and never returns to Boards. Which kind of makes me think there might be something to it.

Ciro Di Marzio

Thesiger wrote: »

Also worth remembering this one-post wonder in relation to Parker - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showpost.php?p=112539731&postcount=8787

That was a big line at the time, that the 3 boys ZP, SL and JD has fallen out with the Zombie ...and he had put contracts out on them...that theory seemed to drop off over time though

Thesiger

Also worth remembering this one-post wonder in relation to Parker - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showpost.php?p=112539731&postcount=8787

MelvinWagstaff

GerryFog wrote: »

Makes the most sense to me. I think Parker was 100% killed because of his debt and Little was killed because of his association to Parker.

Usually if someone owes a huge debt and something happens to them then the creditors will go to whoever is close to them and who can pay. In this case after killing Parker they would have gone to Little to recoup the debt.

Now where Davis and Sani come into it is blurred but if they are part of the same crew then I think the most likely scenario is they moved on to the others for the debt as they were all a tight knit group.

As for the 'who is they'? Considering its a traveler group I am assuming it would be CP's crowd. That is just guesswork though.

Yes your whole post is guesswork. You didn't mention that this was your theory in your original post you put it as if it was fact and not fiction.

Ciro Di Marzio

GerryFog wrote: »

This is it.

Then after killing Parker they went for Little and Davis for the debt and they refused to pay so they killed them.

Sanibar was either the trigger man or he knew where Parker had stashed his drugs and took them. Or maybe the same gang that killed Parker, Davis and Little had moved onto Sanibar for the debt owed by Parker.

I don’t think that would be fully right. It wasn’t one outright debt. SL and JD who were murdered would have been sourcing, shifting and owing debts from multiple sources. I mean just look in Coolock alone higher up the ladder you have Big and associates, Ru, Norton’s, among others. Then look at the network of lower levels that directly link across North Dublin suburbs and even onto north county Dublin and into Drogheda etc.

Boylan’s murder was linked to the N’s over a debt too if I’m not mistaken. I think the angle on Parker owing an original debt is true. This debt was said to be to Flash or associates of Flash. So it could have been to CS and others as Flashys finglas gang is not easily nailed down as just GW himself and people following his orders. Little supposedly had mouthed that he was pissed about ZT hit and was going to retaliate. With the crew around him in Coolock and his family connections some might see that he had growing means to carry our these threats. CS and SH then seem to be the standout suspects for Littles killing. So take from that what you will. Coolock boys then took out SH either in revenge or also maybe they were led to do so from higher up’s to clear SH out of the picture. Remember these boys are still linked to Big, Flash in Finglas and the some of other major dealers and figures in Coolock. So we don’t know what motives may lie up the chain to clear out any lower levels, be it from unpaid debts, pissing someone off or being a liability.

Again JD whacking could have been done to tie up all loose ends within the group and relating to the other incidents, but I think it seems more likely it was something drug/debt related internal to Coolock.

Thesiger

GerryFog wrote: »

Makes the most sense to me. I think Parker was 100% killed because of his debt and Little was killed because of his association to Parker.

Usually if someone owes a huge debt and something happens to them then the creditors will go to whoever is close to them and who can pay. In this case after killing Parker they would have gone to Little to recoup the debt.

Now where Davis and Sani come into it is blurred but if they are part of the same crew then I think the most likely scenario is they moved on to the others for the debt as they were all a tight knit group.

As for the 'who is they'? Considering its a traveler group I am assuming it would be CP's crowd. That is just guesswork though.

Been said a thousand times already but it seems clear that Davis killing was unrelated. We have the name of the likely shooter and know about his relationship with the sister of a well-known Coolock gangster who has his own operation.