Do you make any assumptions based on the brand someone uses?

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.

So Joe Rogan is working class?

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/mma/5573416/ufc-joe-rogan-podcast-california-mansion/

the beer revolu

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.

This is the greatest pile how horseshít I've read in quite a while!

Nobody thinks tattoos are classy?
How the fcuk could you possibly know this?
(hint, you don't)

pgj2015 wrote: »

So Joe Rogan is working class?

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/mma/5573416/ufc-joe-rogan-podcast-california-mansion/

To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.

ChikiChiki

king_of_mayo wrote: »

Not a brand but if I hear someone has a PCP car deal, I assume they're financially illiterate.

Same, I assume anyone driving a Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage has it on finance. Sorry to those genuine owners who paid in hard cash:o

I’d more judge someone if there are brands they refuse to use.

8-10

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Same, I assume anyone driving a Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage has it on finance. Sorry to those genuine owners who paid in hard cash:o

I don't get the PCP hate. It can and often is cheaper than hire purchase/straight finance from the garage or a car loan from a bank. Was for me anyway.

I get criticism in general about financial sense of buying a brand new car, but not about PCP which I found the best way of financing myself

Church on Tuesday

Anytime I hear or see Burberry I still think you may be a chav.

Wibbs wrote: »

To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.

nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.

the beer revolu

Wibbs wrote: »

To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.

So, Keith Richards is working class?

the beer revolu wrote: »

So, Keith Richards is working class?

Middle class IIRC, or was that Jagger? Can't remember. A lot of the British 60's counter culture guys came from leafy suburban middle class backgrounds and rebelled against that to some degree.

pgj2015 wrote: »

nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.

Footballists would generally tend to come from working class backgrounds. It was very much a working class sport on the pitch and in the stands though that blurred to some degree as the years went on.

Tattoos and uptakes in the social strata have ebbed and flowed down the years. It was at one time to be found among the working classes and royalty at the same time. Ditto for piercings. Middle classes back then nope, though the middle classes, especially those newly minted in the previous generation tend to be very risk averse and feel the need to fit in with mannered society as they see and gauge it, so tatts would be going off piste because of the "working class" associations and the need to distance themselves from that past. Latterly it's certainly less class based alright, but still has that association for some. Though I don't see why the association is any sort of problem myself.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Anytime I hear or see Burberry I still think you may be a chav.

Burberry once a very upper crust brand is a brand that went the other direction as far as perceptions of "class" go. It has been extremely profitable for them.

Wibbs wrote: »

Middle class IIRC, or was that Jagger? Can't remember. A lot of the British 60's counter culture guys came from leafy suburban middle class backgrounds and rebelled against that to some degree.

Footballists would generally tend to come from working class backgrounds. It was very much a working class sport on the pitch and in the stands though that blurred to some degree as the years went on.

Tattoos and uptakes in the social strata have ebbed and flowed down the years. It was at one time to be found among the working classes and royalty at the same time. Ditto for piercings. Middle classes back then nope, though the middle classes, especially those newly minted in the previous generation tend to be very risk averse and feel the need to fit in with mannered society as they see and gauge it, so tatts would be going off piste because of the "working class" associations and the need to distance themselves from that past. Latterly it's certainly less class based alright, but still has that association for some. Though I don't see why the association is any sort of problem myself.

in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.

pgj2015 wrote: »

in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.

True, though both being from that extremely wealthy background they can essentially do what they like as far as socially fitting in is concerned. I suspect El D is more referring to leafy suburban aspirational professional classes where attitudes and "tribal" symbols are more fixed and in those surroundings tattoos would be frowned upon as "tacky" in general. Your daughter gets a tramp stamp in Ibiza, that raises eyebrows. My god Proinsias what has she done to herself type vibe. Full sleeves? Attack of the vapours time for a fair percentage.

Cupatae

pgj2015 wrote: »

in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.

Most of em are just trend followers that get nonsense tattoos because its cool, nothing to do with class, how is this even a discussion?

Wibbs wrote: »

True, though both being from that extremely wealthy background they can essentially do what they like as far as socially fitting in is concerned. I suspect El D is more referring to leafy suburban aspirational professional classes where attitudes and "tribal" symbols are more fixed and in those surroundings tattoos would be frowned upon as "tacky" in general. Your daughter gets a tramp stamp in Ibiza, that raises eyebrows. My god Proinsias what has she done to herself type vibe. Full sleeves? Attack of the vapours time for a fair percentage.

iv seen a good few British cops with sleeve tattoos, they definitely aren't working or welfare class, also if they dont care about people judging them then I dont see why someone working in an office would. I dont have tattoos by the way but I wouldnt make any judgements on anyone who have them.

EmmetSpiceland

Cupatae wrote: »

Most of em are just trend followers that get nonsense tattoos because its cool, nothing to do with class, how is this even a discussion?

It’s a bit mad, isn’t it? Tattoo are no longer the “sole preserve” of sailors, squaddies or street gang members.

They’re just like a piercing these days. There’s a number of lads in the club who’d have them, one even has a “sleeve”.

The days of there being a “stigma” around them are long gone. But it’s ok for someone not to like them, they don’t have to get one.

take everything

From the poshest of the posh all the way down to the most deprived.

People are mostly just unconscious, consuming dummies.
God bless them.

SineadSpears

Men in New Balance trainers look like their hobbies include creeping in the bushes

Middle class rock stars “You may as well get shot of Lou Reed, Neil Young, REM, three Beatles, two of the Stones, all of the Beach Boys, Beefheart, the Pixies and Miles Davis.” (Christian Savill of Slowdive)

El_Duderino 09

the beer revolu wrote: »

This is the greatest pile how horseshít I've read in quite a while!

Nobody thinks tattoos are classy?
How the fcuk could you possibly know this?
(hint, you don't)

Well you might think tattoos are classy. But I doubt many peope hold that opinion.

Seriously, tattoos might be a lot of things, classy ain't among them. That's can't be news to you.

beggars_bush

Lot of lads driving very fancy BMWs or Audis around and they can barely afford to fill them with fuel.

pgj2015 wrote: »

iv seen a good few British cops with sleeve tattoos, they definitely aren't working or welfare class, also if they dont care about people judging them then I dont see why someone working in an office would. I dont have tattoos by the way but I wouldnt make any judgements on anyone who have them.

I was waiting in the lobby of Dundrum Garda Station last year, when three of what I presumed were detectives came walking through, into the staff area. One had substantial tattoos on both arms, which wasn't quite what I was expecting, but there you go.

El_Duderino 09

pgj2015 wrote: »

nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.

Most footballers are certainly born into working class. I dont think footballers are representitive of much. I don't think they generally have time for formal education or anything like that.

But in fairness, it's probably getting off topic.

Potential-Monke

jaxxx wrote: »

As well as BMW and Mercedes drivers.

Hey now, I drive a Merc and I probably drive more road legal than the vast majority, to the point that people look at me weird when I go around a roundabout properly (ie: not cutting it, even if everyone else does). I also indicate religiously, and I've noticed Merc drivers definitely indicate more than Audi drivers, and BMW, well, they never do. I'm trying to change the view on Merc drivers!

Also, having had a range of cars from Corollas, Galants, Civics, Volvos and Nissans, I can hand on heart say that Mercs are worth every penny extra, the comfort is non-comparible to the "normal" cars. Every car I've had, I'd have a pain in my back after driving to Dubland (from Limerick), but I could drive all around Europe without stopping in the Merc and still be grand. Great cars, can't see myself buying a different brand again.

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I’d more judge someone if there are brands they refuse to use.

Judge away, even if I win the lotto I still won't wear fashion brand clothing.

Rodney Bathgate

Person wearing a MUFC jersey: I assume they support MUFC

Person wearing a LFC jersey: I assume they support LFC

Person wearing a MCFC jersey: I assume I am delusional and seeing things

Person wearing a Celtic jersey: I assume they are scum

Person wearing a full kit (including socks and boots) away from a football pitch: I assume they are a full kit w@nker