bogman_bass wrote: » *walks in door I haven’t been here in a while what have I missed?...... *leaves
tanko wrote: » The Irish Factories Association rep has admitted in a moment of madness that the beef price paid to Irish farmers has nothing to do with supply and demand but is set by a price fixing cartel of beef barons.
wrangler wrote: » And alas stupid farmers still persist in producing beef cattle for those same beef barons so those same farmers can whinge and whinge an...... It's a joke really, it's when you write it down you see how really sad it is
richie123 wrote: » Why do we keep doing it ?tis very frustrating...lads talking bout 3.70 thinking it's good ****ing waste of time
wrangler wrote: » A lot of land now changing to dairying now and to serving dairy farmers, good to see farmers now copping on,even if it took so long
Hard Knocks wrote: » Would that not be more calves for Larry & co?
jd06 wrote: » Was quoted 3.65 for bullocks 3.70 heifers
wrangler wrote: » Why would any one feed calves if they're claiming they're losing money on them, That's just being stupid
richie123 wrote: » Sure it is pure and simple !
wrangler wrote: » Yea, simple, like thinking you can tell independent processors how to run their business........ not gonna happen. Influence the problem where you can, don't buy the calves if you're losing money on them, simple as that. Gross margin here on sheep was €800 - €1000/ha, it makes a huge difference when the enterprise is making money and you can pocket the BPS
richie123 wrote: » The way the tax system is set up and Brussels acting the ****e with regards to future payments potentially tied to numbers a farmer would have is distorting the market. If these two issues were cleared up A lot of lads myself included would exit beef in the morning. I think that answers your question regarding mad calf prices.theyre still the cheapest way to get into stock.
kk.man wrote: » Got a text from the mart looking for beef cattle. Never got a text like it before. The northern buyers must be buying big time.
KAMG wrote: » The marts are the way to go at the moment alright. The factories are some shower really. Sent a few cattle to factory last week and got another screwing. Any of ye ever hear of a LM cross bullock grading O-?
KAMG wrote: » Thanks for the replies lads. That's fair enough. I still think I was screwed though. I buy yearling bullocks from the same man every year and finish them to same factory approx 15 months later. Mostly HEX but some LMX. They all done really well this year. Most of them getting into 3+ to 4+ on fat. And O+/R- on conformation. I sent the last few last week and they were similar but definitely not as good as the rest sent. However, when the results came in, they were all far less than I had expected. I think they have access in some way to your herd profile and they knew they were the last ones to be killed this year so they could get away with going to town on them!
Duke92 wrote: » Agree with you on the fat had a 5 this year for the first time ever and a few 4+s I usually find the grading better as I go and the last ones usually the best because they’ve been on meal the longest Been a great year to kill cattle of grass dying nearly 2 percent better than last year
Anto_Meath wrote: » @ KAMG yes I have had them, out of dairy herds and would have reared them. But some factories have gone very tight on the grading lately, friend had HE heifers grade P's lately they are out of his dairy cows and the same HE bull he as had for 7 years. This is the first years he has gotten P's and the quality of his heifers hasn't changed. Beef cattle in the marts are a flying trade at the minute, €2 / Kg for Fr's, up to €2:50 /Kg for good continentals, not a hope getting that type of money in the factory. Seen a few 4 year old bullocks in Carnaross yesterday around 1,000 kgs making €2,100, if an ordinary farmer had them no factory would take them and they would be cut for been over age and over weight. Yet yesterday the factory agents were mad for them.
High bike wrote: » if ever there was proof needed that the 30 month rule is just bs and a way to screw the farmer there u have it.Agents can buy any cattle any age and weight in a mart and rock up to the factory that evening and not get cut.Long may the on line bidding continue and make these fcukers pay for cattle
Anto_Meath wrote: » True but farmers will need to support the on line bidding to keep it in place.. maybe we should be using it when buying cattle even if we are at the Mart..
bogman_bass wrote: » If every proof was needed that the 30 month rule is needed to protect farmers from themselves there you have it. The final tally might look great but the margin on that animal isn’t great.
