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PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

shuffles03

Mark Cerny has been showing off the dev kit:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console

PS5 FAQ:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/#sf239758641

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How Soon Is Now

BelovedAunt wrote: »

Ah no just thought if you’re being a knobhead I’ll do the same. Gas to see the other illiterate How Soon is Now thanking all your posts.

Haha talk about getting personal! I just taught it was funny that's why I liked it!

bazzz

Now, now boys and girls. It's just all fun and games console speculation.
From my side of this thread, I'm just looking forward to hopefully getting the console on release. Like I've done with most consoles, since their existence;)

To be honest on the box and logo front, it doesn't bother me one bit. I'll take
whatever comes. Hopefully it won't be long now before we see pricing(€450-€499-€550) and official pre-orders up.

CastorTroy

Just seeing the talk of the logo made me take a quick look at my games here. For the PS3 era they changed from the Spider-man logo to the newer logo but then consistent through PS4

shaveAbullock

Dayjur wrote: »

you would really wonder about the state of peoples lives when their complaining about a logo

I've even seen people (not on this forum though) complain that the console is not all black :eek:

Revoker88

I think what makes this different from any playstation launch previously is that its backwards compatibile,the launch library is going to be the PS4 library plus what ever games we get when and after the console launches.

So never before has the games available on launch mattered less. To me this is a good thing,it will help early adoption too.

HairySalmon

EoinHef wrote: »

I think what makes this different from any playstation launch previously is that its backwards compatibile,the launch library is going to be the PS4 library plus what ever games we get when and after the console launches.

So never before has the games available on launch mattered less. To me this is a good thing,it will help early adoption too.

PS2 and PS3 were backwards compatible at launch.

whiterebel

HairySalmon wrote: »

PS2 and PS3 were backwards compatible at launch.

PS3 was only compatible with PS1 games, wasn't it? Was PS2 BC?

CastorTroy

For me the reasons for getting at launch if it's backwards compatible are to get a good price for the non pro PS4 against it and the supposedly improved performance of PS4 games. I've a backlog of games I can play until the PS5 games I want come out. But will just wait for more details before booking anything

HairySalmon

whiterebel wrote: »

PS3 was only compatible with PS1 games, wasn't it? Was PS2 BC?

The 60GB model had the PS2 chip in it for full backwards compatibility with the previous gens.

It was removed to save costs a few years later.

Retr0gamer

Actually only Japanese and US models had the chipset which was removed for Europe. We got software emulation of the PS2 which was subpar. It was to keep costs down yet charged Europeans more for the console...

All PS 2 backwards compatibility was removed for later editions of the console. Well from discs. Had no trouble selling them back on PSN. Software emulation was so riddled with issues kind of wouldn't have worked well with discs anyway, even the PS2 games on PSN mostly run like dirt.

brianregan09

Am I the only that isn't bothered with backwards compatibility I mean it's a huge issue that comes up at every new gen launch

I dunno I'm buying a new generation of console to play a new generation of games, of course it'll be handy if you can keep all your digital stuff from ps4 but it's not the reason I'm upgrading

bazzz

brianregan09 wrote: »

Am I the only that isn't bothered with backwards compatibility I mean it's a huge issue that comes up at every new gen launch

I dunno I'm buying a new generation of console to play a new generation of games, of course it'll be handy if you can keep all your digital stuff from ps4 but it's not the reason I'm upgrading

I'm of a similar stance. It doesn't bother me at all, regarding backwards compatibility on the PS5.
I'm looking forward to the new releases on the new technology.
Ok I'll probably play a few of the PS4 enhanced for PS5 titles.

shaveAbullock

But the ps4 and ps5 both run on x86 architecture so backward compatibility should be relatively easy.
Shouldn't it?

There seems to be big demand from people who want to buy the new console and trade in the PS4 but do not have any launch titles for the PS5 that interests them.

JimBurnley

Rumours the price and release date will be revealed tomorrow...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1307921/PS5-price-release-date-pre-order-details-leak

Greyfox

brianregan09 wrote: »

Am I the only that isn't bothered with backwards compatibility I mean it's a huge issue that comes up at every new gen launch

I'm the opposite, every new console has a games drought at some point early on meaning you always need to go back to your backlog on your old console where with BC there's no need for your old console. I hope all future consoles are BC as for me it's what makes a console worth buying on launch rather than waiting 18 months

johnny_ultimate

JimBurnley wrote: »

Rumours the price and release date will be revealed tomorrow...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1307921/PS5-price-release-date-pre-order-details-leak

Be VERY wary of the Express, a shameless click-bait, SEO manipulating site not worth the kb it takes to load the page. In this case they’re just mindlessly republishing a social media rumour from a more respectable source, but they’ll typically publish any old ****e to game the search engines. Type in ‘Ghosts of Tsushima review’ into Google if you want to see what I mean. Absolute rag - if they’re right this time by just copying someone else’s story, shouldn’t detract from their appalling editorial practices.

How Soon Is Now

For me personally backwards compatibility will be a big thing as I have a fair few games I'm yet to finish or even start! I want to play them at some point and would rather carry them over to a more powerful machine at this stage.

Especially seeing as I have noticed in the last few months a few annoying issues with my pro on certain games where it will get very noisy and even sometimes there will be little glitches on-screen in the picture which cant be a good thing!

EoinMcLovin

Ubisoft announced that you can upgrade Watch Dogs Legion PS4 to PS5 for free but if you have PS4 disc you can only play the digital PS5 version if you have PS4 disc in drive

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1282400484284936192?s=19

CastorTroy

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Ubisoft announced that you can upgrade Watch Dogs Legion PS4 to PS5 for free but if you have PS4 disc you can only play the digital PS5 version if you have PS4 disc in drive

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1282400484284936192?s=19

That's the way I thought it would work. Otherwise you could just get the PS5 version then sell the PS4 disc or give it to someone else so they could download as well. Imagine how many people could get the game for free.

On that note, people are talking about the next gen game prices being higher, but with these free upgrades you could just get the PS4/Xbox One version for cheaper. Also means the games will hold their price longer.

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

That's the way I thought it would work. Otherwise you could just get the PS5 version then sell the PS4 disc or give it to someone else so they could download as well. Imagine how many people could get the game for free.

On that note, people are talking about the next gen game prices being higher, but with these free upgrades you could just get the PS4/Xbox One version for cheaper. Also means the games will hold their price longer.

Unless next year they up the prices as new games will probably just be for PS5 so no free upgrades from PS4

shaveAbullock

JimBurnley wrote: »

Rumours the price and release date will be revealed tomorrow...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1307921/PS5-price-release-date-pre-order-details-leak

It seems as if there is more pressure for Sony to reveal a price than Microsoft and I don't know why that is.

ERG89

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Unless next year they up the prices as new games will probably just be for PS5 so no free upgrades from PS4

They won't be giving upgrades away in PS4/Xbox games too far beyond next summer imo, they will feel people would have had enough time to pick up a new PS5/XBX by then.

EoinMcLovin

ERG89 wrote: »

They won't be giving upgrades away in PS4/Xbox games too far beyond next summer imo, they will feel people would have had enough time to pick up a new PS5/XBX by then.

Exactly, I think they are doing this to encourage current gen players to move to next gen with no worries of having to buy games twice.

Potential-Monke

Tweet is showing as unavailable now. But, if i'm not mistaken, you're not getting the next gen version for free, just the enhanced version? Or do they mean the actual next gen version?

EoinMcLovin

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Tweet is showing as unavailable now. But, if i'm not mistaken, you're not getting the next gen version for free, just the enhanced version? Or do they mean the actual next gen version?

If you buy Watch Dogs legion, AC Valhalla or Far Cry 6 on the PS4, you get a free upgrade to the PS5 version. If you have the PS4 physical version, you can only play the digital PS5 version by having disc in PS5

Purchase Watch Dogs Legion on PlayStation®4 or Xbox One and upgrade your game to the next-gen version (PlayStation®5 or Xbox Series X) at no additional cost.*

Upgrade to PlayStation®5 Version: Watch Dogs Legion PlayStation®4 game on Blu-ray Disc™ must be kept inserted in a PlayStation®5 console to play the corresponding Watch Dogs Legion PlayStation®5 digital version at no additional cost, when available.
Requires a PlayStation®5, the game Blu-ray Disc™, a PlayStation® Network registration, additional storage & Broadband internet connection. May incur bandwidth usage fees.

Watch Dogs Legion leverages the Smart Delivery technology - buy the game once and play it on either Xbox One or Xbox Series X when both the console and that version of Watch Dogs Legion are available

tigger123

This is the first time BC has been of interest to me. Mainly because of the backlog of stuff from PS Plus.

There's also few games in the last few years I didnt get a chance to get into.

Arcadeheroes

Backwards Compatibility to me is very important regardless how much use the Majority of gamers use it .
Of course alot of us will upgrade to the newest generation of consoles to play the new games but having BC means you never have to deal with dry spells during the calender year in the summer nor the awful launch games that comes with every new generation.

BC also has the power to bring back beloved dormant franchises that have been forgotten about which can only be a good thing .

I by default have used Playstation has my primary console of choice since I was 7 years old, but this is the first time I might be choosing to get series x before I will get the ps5 just so I can play Ninja Gaiden Black and Panzar Dragoon Orta

Retr0gamer

shaveAbullock wrote: »

But the ps4 and ps5 both run on x86 architecture so backward compatibility should be relatively easy.
Shouldn't it?

It should be relatively easy but will still require work on Sony's side. Also it's not like an open platform like PC so each game made backwards compatible will have to be tested for bugs and also if they can be used to breach the security of the Sony OS and firmware.

Still an awful lot of effort has to go into it.

Penn

BC is particularly important in the first year or so of a console's life. After that, less so but still very much a nice to have.

Let's face it, the first year of this gen was plagued with re-releases or collections because there was no BC at the time. At least now that the consoles will have BC from the start, any re-releases or enhanced editions will need to have something extra in them to warrant people buying them rather than the older version.

dan786

So who else is waiting for that 8.30pm rumour?