kona wrote: » Stops gowls shoving themselves all over other passengers mid flight rummaging in overhead bins for something they dont really need.
Noxegon wrote: » For what it's worth, my laptop bag does not fit within the dimensions Ryanair allow for under a seat, and as such I can only fly with Ryanair when the two cabin bag option is available. I can't legally put my laptop in the hold (not that I would anyway) as it has a non-removable battery.
L1011 wrote: » How large is your laptop? :eek: Most modern business laptops have impractical to remove batteries, so they really don't have many that can go in anymore
HTCOne wrote: » But the whole point of the air bridge concept is people from each country can only travel to countries on the list, one country can’t let in the yanks for example while all the others don’t, as they’ll be then booted off the green list.
MickeyLeari wrote: » Is that the real reason why we can’t green list now?
HTCOne wrote: » As in are we letting Americans in? If that’s what you mean then the answer is no, I believe there’s been an EU wide ban on the entry of Americans who do not hold EU citizenship or a residency / work permit for a few months now.
bk wrote: » That ban only applies to Schengen EU countries, which unfortunately we aren't part of. So, yes, folks from the US can travel here. Though they are supposed to go into 14 day quarantine then. Which of course isn't really enforced....
California Dreamer wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=9Sku0HFaWDc&feature=emb_title Nice little video from the Ryan people!
HTCOne wrote: » Well if that’s correct then it makes the current travel ban even more pointless than Dr. Lambert says.
bk wrote: » I have to laugh when I see people saying this. In particular the airline industry. On the one hand, they say it is pointless. But on the other hand they seem desperate to remove it. Why so desperate to remove it if it is pointless? The truth of the matter is, it does work. Most folks in the US will just look, see that there is a 14 day quarantine and not think that they could break it and just decide to not travel. Also with a "do not travel" advisory in place in the US, there travel insurance and health insurance would be null and void if they do travel, so big risk there. Of course some small number of people from the US might ignore both of the above and decide to still travel. But overall the numbers travelling are vastly less then they would otherwise be and this public health stuff is all a numbers game in the end. Of course we could and probably should do it better. Complete ban on travel from the US, etc. or perhaps properly enforced quarantine like Australia has now put in place, bus'd from plane to Hotel for a proper 14 day quarantine. Just because our quarantine isn't perfect, doesn't mean we should just throw it away. If we find we need to, we can certainly make it stricter and the Minister of Travel has already mentioned that they are looking into that.
bk wrote: » An incredibly poor video with lots of misinformation!
bk wrote: » An incredibly poor video with lots of misinformation! First of all they blather on about HEPA filters and AC, but we know from the scientific research into this that the top to bottom type AC actually helps virus like SARS actually spread more widely then it would in a normal indoor environment! AC going bottom to top would actually be safer, but it isn't designed that way. Needs to happen for future aircraft.https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/scientists-think-they-know-ways-to-combat-viruses-on-airplanes-theyre-too-late-for-this-pandemic/2020/04/20/83279318-76ab-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html They then go on about how they thoroughly clean the aircraft every night. But of course, no cleaning/disinfection between each turn around!
stephenjmcd wrote: » NI removing quarantine for low and medium risk countries, list to be announced. Makes our approach pretty redundant now, more pressure to come on government one would assume
Nijmegen wrote: » This probably isn’t going to help aviation if it keeps happening. 15 of 23 cases notified today associated with overseas travel and the R rate is at or above 1.https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1281278965026619392?s=21
Jack1985 wrote: » Where's the specification of what type of travel, from what country etc - We need data to work with before making generalised comments.
Limpy wrote: » One Iraqi infected his whole family, that figure could be one traveller infecting his family the same way. We need the proper stats to offer better context.
Jack1985 wrote: » Context has been missing with regard to travel throughout - Nobody can dispute data, show it to us instead of making generalised comments.
Nijmegen wrote: » And they have been good at releasing the supplementary data around clusters etc over a period of days. My understanding is that if you came back and infected your family, your case would be associated with travel but the family as close contacts. If you infected your town and it wasn’t contact traced to you, it’s community infection. So my understanding is that 15 cases related to travel means 15 people who they believe didn’t catch the virus in Ireland, they travelled in with it. And another datapoint... most counties now have new cases after a long run without any for many.https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1281284398931939328?s=21
stephenjmcd wrote: » Its 15 travel related cases, from watching the press conferences these also covers those who were close contacts of people who traveled in. If I travel into Ireland and have it and a close contact tests postive its noted as travel related as I brought it in. Its a vague term but from what was said thats my understanding
Van.Bosch wrote: » Spot on - those 15 could be Irish citizens coming home. It still is travel bringing the virus in but are we ever going to stop Irish citizens coming home? No, so give the context, if it’s 15 lads who went to Amsterdam on the lash - give the context. “Travel” Is too broad.
