blanch152 wrote: » Anyone who organises or attends a high profile funeral during Covid-19 is in breach of the regulations. Unfortunately for those poor nine families, the clear breach of the regulations by Sinn Fein meant that their funerals had to be cancelled. It is a complete disgrace, and the lack of shame is nauseating.
blanch152 wrote: » You are only criticising him to deflect from the antics of Sinn Fein.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Debunked by someone who is here defending FG and Varadkar to the hilt? Are you having a laugh?
Your opinion differs to mine and others who criticised him. Get over it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Not seeing your condemnation of other 'high profile funerals' blanch, can you link to them? The PSNI seemed happy to allow it go ahead, having 'engaged' with the priest and organisers.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No I criticised SF too. I, though kept all of them in perspective. I didn't for instance ask for Leo to apologise for having a few drinks with his friends, I just questioned his leadership which I think was found wanting. It's good he is gone for the time being.
blanch152 wrote: » Francie, I have previously explained to you the difference between a State funeral for a garda killed in the line of duty on behalf of his country, and the common funeral of a common thug and killer.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I, though kept all of them in perspective. I didn't for instance ask for Leo to apologise for having a few drinks with his friends, I just questioned his leadership which I think was found wanting. .
Mortelaro wrote: » I've explained several times on this and its sister threads that I give as much of a sh1te about your opinion
Bishop of hope wrote: » So SF and FG leaders fcuked up. Thank god for Michael, probably the best choice for Taoiseach out of a bad lot.
FrancieBrady wrote: » What are you debating for then?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Michael went into hiding for most of the pandemic...no danger of him transgressing.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Probably wishes at times he was still in it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The PSNI seemed happy to allow it go ahead, having 'engaged' with the priest and organisers.
The motion was signed by the other four parties that make up the Stormont Executive, the DUP, SDLP, Alliance and Ulster Unionists.
Belfast City Council has apologised after details emerged about how it dealt with Bobby Storey's family at Roselawn crematorium last week compared to other families. The council admitted that the family was the only one allowed into Roselawn on Tuesday for a cremation.Eight other families were not allowed in as their loved-ones were cremated. The council said this was an "error of judgement" and has sent an apology to all of the families affected.
Bowie wrote: » At least it was a funeral not a needless PR photo op or the like.
blackwhite wrote: » I'd have thought that pretending to have a burial, just in order to hold a Trump-style political rally was a prime example of a needless PR photo op. Strange how all the SF acolytes continually whine about Varadkar loving photo ops, and being obsessed with image - but they don't see the irony in staging a burial in order to have a "traditional" setting for their political speeches
markodaly wrote: » Isn't this a lie? I know MLD and MoM spun the 'we talked to and engaged with the PSNI' line and the PSNI came out after and said this was not true.
We were made aware of the plans for today's funeral and have engaged with the celebrant and service organisers to highlight both the public health advice and risks around Covid-19, and the requirement for those attending to adhere to social distancing. "We had assurances that those attending would observe the health guidelines and that marshals would be in place to encourage those lining the cortege route to observe social distancing.
McMurphy wrote: » I don't think their was a "staged burial", a staged burial would indicate their was an empty coffin lowered into a grave. A gathering at the republican plot in Milltown cemetery by mourner's does not equate to a "staged burial". Why lie about something that's so easily disproved?
blackwhite wrote: » They did everything possible to give the impression that they were having a burial - otherwise why gather in the graveyard at all? Political rally that they tried to dress up as something else. No surprise to see the usual foot-soldiers crawling out of the woodwork to defend SF attempt at aping Trump's rally in Tulsa
FrancieBrady wrote: » They gathered for what the funeral notice said they were gathering for...' a short ceremony and oration'. The normal way it is phrased is 'burial afterwards in X cemetery'
McMurphy wrote: » Wait a minute, if by "foot soldier" you mean someone who will point out complete and utter lies? The graveside oration was organised and known about by anyone who was interested and intended to attend, including the media. You told a deliberate and intentional lie, you got called out on it, now might be the time to stop digging.
blackwhite wrote: » The "normal way" is the requiem mass, with burial afterwards in X cemetery. Not requiem mass - followed by speeches in location 2 - followed by burial/cremation somewhere completely differently. A diversion half-way through a funeral, just to hold a political rally - during a pandemic. I wonder how many other funerals in NI or the Republic take a detour between the Church and the final resting place (be it burial place, or crematorium) to hold a rally beside someone else's grave
blackwhite wrote: » They tried to paint it as happening at Storey's graveside - which was a lie in order to try and justify holding their Trump-style rally. Not often you hear of a funeral taking a diversion to someone else's graveside for a few political speeches. SF fans defending the indefensible as usual. The party can do no wrong - it's always someone else's fault.
FrancieBrady wrote: » It may have been wrong to plan to do it during a pandemic (I don't see why if social distancing rules were adhered to) .
Mortelaro wrote: » Regulations perhaps? You know,regulations that every other private citizen funeral had to adhere to,because of COVID 19 like
McMurphy wrote: » In this case the "someone else being at fault" would be Mr Blackwhite for telling a fairly easily disproved deliberate and intentional lie. The details of his funeral arrangements were widely known and planned for well in advance, you deliberately said a "pretend burial" and a "staged burial" - an out and out lie which is extraordinarily easy to disprove. His funeral arrangements always had the crystal clear arrangements for a "short commemoration and oration" after the mass at Milltown republican plot. There's plenty to criticise Sinn Fein over the funeral, but there's no need for blatant lies. Are you going to withdraw the lie, or would you like the funeral arrangements posted on the thread?
