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Why be good?

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What do you think is the point in being a good person? Is there any reward in trying to do the right thing, often with detrimental consequences to yourself? How does it make sense to you?

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[Deleted User]

I wonder will this ongoing 'kindness' trend go outta fashion and be replaced with 'be a cúnt' buzz.

Hopefully it will so I can go back to being myself.:D

[Deleted User]

Because I like children (in a purely non paedo way) and don't like to see them suffer

Adults? You can all go to hell

Zebra3

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'm not religious, never said I was.

I respect the fact you, like I, are not religious but I don't respect your lack of respect, tolerance if you will, for people of faith.

There is a difference.

There you go again. People of "faith".

It's a con.

Why do you demand respect for people who are gullible?

[Deleted User]

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Because I like children (in a purely non paedo way) and don't like to see them suffer

Adults? You can all go to hell

Let's be honest though. Some kids are little cúnts.:)

[Deleted User]

Zebra3 wrote: »

There you go again. People of "faith".

It's a con.

Why do you demand respect for people who are gullible?

Why do you feel the need to belittle them? Jeez, if it helps then in life and they aren't hurting anyone let em off

PonchoMcHoncho

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'm not religious, never said I was.

I respect the fact you, like I, are not religious but I don't respect your lack of respect, tolerance if you will, for people of faith.

There is a difference.

Respectfully I find your lack of respect for that posters lack of respect disrespectful to people who have lost their respect.

Church on Tuesday

PonchoMcHoncho wrote: »

Respectfully I find your lack of respect for that posters lack of respect disrespectful to people who have lost their respect.

Respectception?

Church on Tuesday

Zebra3 wrote: »

There you go again. People of "faith".

It's a con.

Why do you demand respect for people who are gullible?

Like another person has already said, if it gives them hope and comfort and they don't force it on anyone then what's the problem?

No one is forcing you to believe it, I certainly wouldn't deride anyone for their belief system, this is supposed to be a tolerant society we all live in now after all.

It's human decency to be respectful of others even if privately you think that particular belief system is a nonsense.

Kylta

I believe what goes around comes around.
Besides if I do a good turn I feel good about. Saying that if I do a bad turn i'm just as happy.

Kylta

Leg End Reject wrote: »

There's enough arseholes in the world within me joining their ranks, empathy and basic decency.

I can still be a cnut at times though, but that's the human condition.

My curiosity is getting the better of me.
Why be a ¢unt? Actually what would make you be a ¢unt? Actually cos most women are confusing at the best of times, did you mean nut or ¢unt?

Mad_maxx

Everyday you learn how comfortable so many people are being pricks

Leg End Reject

Kylta wrote: »

My curiosity is getting the better of me.
Why be a ¢unt? Actually what would make you be a ¢unt? Actually cos most women are confusing at the best of times, did you mean nut or ¢unt?

Bad mood + someone annoys me = temporary cnut. We all have our off days.

Kylta

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Bad mood + someone annoys me = temporary cnut. We all have our off days.

Does that mean if your down in the dumps other people should be down in the dumps?
Its years since I heard people say they were in a bad mood. I wondering is that because when go I'm in a bad mood people just fu¢k off and leave them in their mood?

s7ryf3925pivug

Investing self esteem into being a decent person is healthy, and you will have more robust self-esteem than if it is put into external or shallow things.

Valuing decency in others means you'll tend to surround yourself with people who act fairly/cooperatively/kindly etc and avoid people who are likely to act badly toward you or others.

Caring about things outside of yourself lets you be less troubled by things going wrong for you personally and even for your inevitable death.

Pherekydes

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Why?

What's wrong with people who have faith?

People can have faith. But that doesn't change the fact that god doesn't exist.

[Deleted User]

Pherekydes wrote: »

People can have faith. But that doesn't change the fact that god doesn't exist.

Ah, your one of them.

Ultima Thule

Blair Round Rivalry wrote: »

What do you think is the point in being a good person? Is there any reward in trying to do the right thing, often with detrimental consequences to yourself? How does it make sense to you?

The reward is for the rich.

[Deleted User]

Years ago, I read the Secret by Rhonda Bryne, which struck a cord in me about the universe and thanking for the good things in life. I'm not religious but I do believe in God, and the Universe as a being.

So, I'm generally good because of the law of attraction. Doing good, attracts good things to happen. Doing bad, does the same. And generally, from observing others who do bad, who are aware they're doing bad, their lives are rather difficult for them. Whereas mine is relatively stress free (except when i go on CA), I have a great lifestyle, and I'm managing to follow my dreams. People who do good, are usually happier people.

Still, it depends on your values. I have my own sense of what's good, which isn't always the same as other people..

[Deleted User]

I find it really weird and quite disturbing that some people need to imagine there's a god looking over their shoulder in order to be good people. Does that mean they are suppressing a darker side of themselves to please their God and receive some reward in the afterlife but don't actually have a true and natural desire to live a good life and be kind to the people around them?!

Airyfairy12

If I hurt someone else or see someone hurt, I feel hurt.

Why try to make someone else's life or day harder than it is?

Tell me how

Zebra3 wrote: »

There you go again. People of "faith".

It's a con.

Why do you demand respect for people who are gullible?

Option 5: Not everyone is good.

Tell me how

I picked option 4 which I feel is the case partly because Options 1 and 2 are also true.

It can make such a difference when someone does something to pick you up, make you feel better, help you out etc so why not do that when you can for others.
And also, because I believe herd mentality is a thing and that people will behave and react in a similar way to how they perceive others behaving so it is better to set a good example.

(In terms of Option 3, I am an engineer and my logical mind suggests that a deity watching over everything is unlikely, but, I also recognize that the absence of proof is not proof of absence and I do believe that the core tenets of most religions are to be good to each other and that most of the practitioners of each religion do adhere to this belief. The issues occur when some corrupt the simple belief of religion for their own personal goals. I wouldn't knock anyone for being religious because I see the support and sense of community that many do get from having their beliefs.)

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I find it really weird and quite disturbing that some people need to imagine there's a god looking over their shoulder in order to be good people. Does that mean they are suppressing a darker side of themselves to please their God and receive some reward in the afterlife but don't actually have a true and natural desire to live a good life and be kind to the people around them?!

I guess we should thank religion in that case.

I read before can't recall where now, that heaven was created because organised religion recognised that man wasn't naturally inclined to altruism but the primal desire for self preservation.

Pherekydes

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Ah, your one of them.

My what is one of what?

joe40

I think most people do good because of an ingrained sense of humanity. This was vital for humans to be able to cooperate and build communities.
I read about an anthropologist been asked what was the first sign of civilization. The answer wasn't an art work or painting it was a human skeleton that had a healed femur break.
The only reason that individual survived was because someone else took care of them. For other animals in the wild a broken femur would be death. We had to lose aggression to survive in large groups, and we needed large groups to develop language skills, cooperation, etc.

The aggression levels in chimpanzees our nearest primate relative are very high compared to humans.

Been good for the vast majority of people, is our natural state.
Obviously the crime and horrors that are committed prove many people are not like that, but I like to have faith in the inherent goodness of most people.

I don't have a problem with religion that doesn't force it's views on others but I don't think we need religion to do good.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/remyblumenfeld/2020/03/21/how-a-15000-year-old-human-bone-could-help-you-through-the--coronavirus/amp/

bb1234567

It feels nice to be nice to others. My mind feels more at ease when I believe I am being a good person. Just treat others with the respect and kindness you'd hope they would show you , don't they deserve it as much as you do.

auspicious

Define good.

ILoveYourVibes

good is non descriptive word yet i notice americans use it to describe everything ...how are you ..good ...what is this food like good ...

It doesn't really tell me anything. Other than its not bad ...which again could mean anything.

Be good...

Call me by my actions.

Why do good things?

Firstly you can't know you are doing good things ...if you are consciously aware of doing them ....then you are doing them to be good.

The more you think about why you should be good and come up with reasons why ....the less good it is.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Its kind of like you see a rich man on the street you run up to him and put a five euro note in his hand and without explanation ask him to give it to that beggar up the street for you. Say he is doing this great favor to you. You aren't asking him to give some of his own money ...but well he probably will..or he might. Whereas if you ask him to ...then you have this whole debate ...is it a good thing ..is it a bad thing.

Then again ...why do good things ...for your own selfish reasons sometimes. Which when you think about it is even doubly good.

but my fav is this

Why be good?

no reason ...just cuz

then you know its in your nature.

ILoveYourVibes

Originally Posted by Zebra3 View Post
There you go again. People of "faith".

It's a con.

Why do you demand respect for people who are gullible?

You have very narrowly defined parameters.

Not all religions belief in an afterlife or god.

[Deleted User]

joe40 wrote: »

I think most people do good because of an ingrained sense of humanity. This was vital for humans to be able to cooperate and build communities.
I read about an anthropologist been asked what was the first sign of civilization. The answer wasn't an art work or painting it was a human skeleton that had a healed femur break.
The only reason that individual survived was because someone else took care of them. For other animals in the wild a broken femur would be death. We had to lose aggression to survive in large groups, and we needed large groups to develop language skills, cooperation, etc.

Did you read that in SAPIENS, by Yuval Harari?

Because he dociments something very similar, he relates the story of the skeleton of a sick, immature homo spaiens which was clearly nursed during its lifetime, and he convincingly argues that it's in our nature to look after one another, that our natural state is communal, and not selfish.