Solar fence

You said you need to pump 150m is there much of a difference in height between the location you intend on placing the drinker and the river?

zetor 4911 wrote: »

Could you pump directly from river to drinking trough with battery and solar panel

It's possible, you need a pump with a pressure switch to work with your troughs ball valve. But the IBC can add a bit of a backup in case of breakdown on a DIY solution.

emaherx wrote: »

No, float switch in IBC so pump starts when level in IBC drops and stops when it's full.

Could you pump directly from river to drinking trough with battery and solar panel

zetor 4911 wrote: »

Something like that would suit me could not justify the cost of the ready made solution. Would the float switch be placed in the river?

No, float switch in IBC so pump starts when level in IBC drops and stops when it's full.

emaherx wrote: »

They are a great solution to provide water to a large area. If you want something simple to replace the petrol pump that's filling an existing IBC then there are much cheaper options. A 12v pump, float switch, solar panel, charge controller and battery would cost a few hundred.

Something like that would suit me could not justify the cost of the ready made solution. Would the float switch be placed in the river?

blue5000 wrote: »

Look up solar pump solutions.ie

They are a great solution to provide water to a large area. If you want something simple to replace the petrol pump that's filling an existing IBC then there are much cheaper options. A 12v pump, float switch, solar panel, charge controller and battery would cost a few hundred.

minerleague wrote: »

in the same boat here ( river fenced off for glas on out farm) pumping water up to IBC tank with petrol powered water pump and gravity fed to couple troughs. would like to automate it without spending big money. What type of pump should i be looking for?

Look up solar pump solutions.ie

minerleague

zetor 4911 wrote: »

A bit of topic here. I want to pump water from a river to a field about 150 meters away there is no power on the farm. Would it be possibly to run a pump of a battery connected to a solar panel?

in the same boat here ( river fenced off for glas on out farm) pumping water up to IBC tank with petrol powered water pump and gravity fed to couple troughs. would like to automate it without spending big money. What type of pump should i be looking for?

zetor 4911 wrote: »

A bit of topic here. I want to pump water from a river to a field about 150 meters away there is no power on the farm. Would it be possibly to run a pump of a battery connected to a solar panel?

Yes absolutely. It's becoming a common option there are ready to go commercial products available and plenty of diy solutions too.

A bit of topic here. I want to pump water from a river to a field about 150 meters away there is no power on the farm. Would it be possibly to run a pump of a battery connected to a solar panel?

djmc

I would think that it would be fine for that size all you need is enough to keep the battery topped up. Once you are not using it over winter when days are short

djmc wrote: »

I think you would not need much to run that size fence probably a 10 or 20w panel from Amazon would be plenty
The concern I would have is might you need a charge controller to prevent over charging the battery

Thanks for reply. Would a lower than 10W panel do or are they a waste of money.

djmc

I think you would not need much to run that size fence probably a 10 or 20w panel from Amazon would be plenty
The concern I would have is might you need a charge controller to prevent over charging the battery

I have a B20 strip grazer (0.2 joules) along a river for about 150 meters it is the one where you replace the battery (can't be charged) but it uses 2/3 batteries a year so this year I connected it to a car battery and working fine I was thinking of connecting a small solar panel to it and maybe someone more tech savvy than me could tell me what wattage would I need.

Cast concrete pier T, been there a long time, has a style on the left.

blue5000 wrote: »

Battery is an old car battery, we use 2, keep one on charge and swop them around every few days.

Yes m8, thats definitely bordering on defeating the purpose of the solar panel.

although I suppose you could argue you would have to change it every day without.

That panel looks like 20 watts might be optimistic too.

Nice fence though, but using approx 600 ma I guess, so would need a decent battery and a decent panel too.

Would go with a 50W panel and a 130Ah battery, then you can relax for the summer.

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TooOldBoots

blue5000 wrote: »

Hey Blue what type of a pier or what is the hexagon concrete thing the solar panel is up against ?
(my curiosity is at me now!)

I'll have to check the box EM. Physics/electrics was never my strong subject. 20 watts would make more sense alright.

blue5000 wrote: »

Here's a rough and ready setup, but it does the job, keep the earth bar damp is half the battle. Pee carefully beside it is my number one tip;)

Solar panel I think is 20 amp, from didldialdi. Fencer was expensive, but can be used on mains as well. Foopin mean bastards don't even put a pair of battery clips in the box:mad:.

Battery is an old car battery, we use 2, keep one on charge and swop them around every few days.

Do you mean 20 Watt?

Bigger panel and better battery and you'd have no swapping every few days.

Here's a rough and ready setup, but it does the job, keep the earth bar damp is half the battle. Pee carefully beside it is my number one tip;)

Solar panel I think is 20 amp, from didldialdi. Fencer was expensive, but can be used on mains as well. Foopin mean bastards don't even put a pair of battery clips in the box:mad:.

Battery is an old car battery, we use 2, keep one on charge and swop them around every few days.

TooOldBoots

djmc wrote: »

I have lacme secur 500 and 50w panel with the last 5 years and am happy enough with it plenty of power wrote a bit about it here https://blackfieldfarm.com/best-solar-powered-fence-chargers/

Thats was a good read! I liked the use of the old fridge

Zimmerframe wrote: »

Yes it's a cool unit, but the price is a bit high.

Re. the joules /volts discussion, to quote one of the biggest and certainly most expensive energiser manufacturers.

Voltage merely represents a difference of potential between two electrical points and is only one aspect of overall power. The Joule rating is a true measure of an energizers stored energy or true power

Not arguing against the importance of joules but it's the potential difference of the fence and the ground that gives the zap, which is why testers measure voltage, it's a good test of a fence at any particular point along it.

emaherx wrote: »

The GPS tracking and battery monitoring/alert features of that unit are interesting.

Yes it's a cool unit, but the price is a bit high.

Re. the joules /volts discussion, to quote one of the biggest and certainly most expensive energiser manufacturers.

Voltage merely represents a difference of potential between two electrical points and is only one aspect of overall power. The Joule rating is a true measure of an energizers stored energy or true power

Zimmerframe wrote: »

I know m8, I used to work in 220 kv sub stations for a living.
There was usually a long length of wire coming from them, but a bit high up for the cattle to reach.

:D

Current might be a little high too

Zimmerframe wrote: »

This is the fence, I would like to have got rather than the one I used, but I couldn't justify the cost.
It's got the same footprint, but more power and the gsm/gps built in.

So amongst other useful functions, if your phone goes off, you can immediately arrange a welcome party for the dude, with your fence under his arm.

https://www.agrisellex.co.uk/products/ranger-a70gps?variant=7934591336476

The GPS tracking and battery monitoring/alert features of that unit are interesting.

emaherx wrote: »

The voltage is also important,

I know m8, I used to work in 220 kv sub stations for a living.
There was usually a long length of wire coming from them, but a bit high up for the cattle to reach.

This is the fence, I would like to have got rather than the one I used, but I couldn't justify the cost.
It's got the same footprint, but more power and the gsm/gps built in.

So amongst other useful functions, if your phone goes off, you can immediately arrange a welcome party for the dude, with your fence under his arm.

https://www.agrisellex.co.uk/products/ranger-a70gps?variant=7934591336476

Zimmerframe wrote: »

No m8, I should have made myself clearer, I meant, the all in 1 units, like this
https://www.agridirect.ie/product/integrated-solar-fencer--pe702s

They are shocking money for what they are.

Zimmerframe wrote: »

A lot of people here and elsewhere mention the "power" of the fence in terms of voltage. ie. 6 kv or 8 kv, this is just voltage, the power of your fence is in joules.

The voltage is also important, but joules will determine how long the fence can be. There's little point in buying a 10 joule fencer for a one acre field. likewise regardless of joules fencer is under spec'd use if it can't produce at least 3,000V at the furthest point from it on the fence. (Assuming adequate earthing etc.)

Zimmerframe wrote: »

A few pics of my quick install, there was an old "sleeper" in the field from a gatepost, so it got used.

Quick and nasty carpentry, will do a "posh" version some day.

the guts

Nothing nasty about that setup, practical and utilitarian.