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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

What's going on?

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Edgware

Bonniedog wrote: »

Power sharing in running part of the UK has nothing to do with republicanism.

And neither has slaughtering young people on a night out in Birmingham families remembering their war dead at Enniskillen

Yeah_Right

RandomViewer wrote: »

One little flaw in your thinking, the title is The United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland] ,so she's not British, maybe you should ask her to do one of those DNA ancestry tests just to prove that the former Ms Kelly is not British

Please, not this rubbish again.

Bonniedog

Edgware wrote: »

And neither has slaughtering young people on a night out in Birmingham families remembering their war dead at Enniskillen

Or running the UVF and supplying them with intelligence and weapons to murder hundreds of Fenians and bomb the capital city of another state.

(That was the Brits by the way ..)

Bonniedog

Truthvader wrote: »

Again what did they actually do? Perhaps they tried to defend Catholic areas from Loyalist ethnic cleansing in 1969 which would be a brave and necessary thing to do or perhaps they murdered unarmed fathers in front of their children, planted bombs in pubs and discos filled with young people etc etc which would be a depraved pointless and cowardly thing to do

So again what did these people actually do?

You didn't have to anything to end up in Ballykinlar or the Curragh. Clue is in the word "internment camp."

Portlaoise one was for membership of Provies.

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Drivel. It took fudementally depraved men to see an opportunity in a failed state to orchestrate a cruel campaign of savagery mainly inflicted on their own people to maitain control in the pursuit of power, to persuade 13 of their own young men to starve themselves to death get publicity for themselves and to keep at it until they took control of their tribal areas and extorted a flow of money from the British.

I do often wonder, in an age when people can move freely how it is that people don't flee these 'tribal areas controlled by depraved men'.

I do often wonder some more how do these 'depraved men' get so many to elect and re-elect them as their leaders. Or to turn out in their thousands to pay their respects when one of these 'depraved men' die in these 'tribal areas'.

The rational explanation of the above to me would be that the idea that these 'tribal areas are controlled by depraved men' is a load of stereotypical nonsense and that there has to be a more reasonable and credible explanation.

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FrancieBrady wrote: »

I do often wonder, in an age when people can move freely how it is that people don't flee these 'tribal areas controlled by depraved men'.

I do often wonder some more how do these 'depraved men' get so many to elect and re-elect them as their leaders. Or to turn out in their thousands to pay their respects when one of these 'depraved men' die in these 'tribal areas'.

The rational explanation of the above to me would be that the idea that these 'tribal areas are controlled by depraved men' is a load of stereotypical nonsense and that there has to be a more reasonable and credible explanation.

To be fair Francie , depravity is judged on acts not popularity. Plenty of examples throughout history of depraved men being popular.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

To be fair Francie , depravity is judged on acts not popularity. Plenty of examples throughout history of depraved men being popular.

In the free world JH I can think of very very few, if any 'depraved men' who are routinely elected again and again when other choices are available. Can you?

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I do often wonder, in an age when people can move freely how it is that people don't flee these 'tribal areas controlled by depraved men'.

I do often wonder some more how do these 'depraved men' get so many to elect and re-elect them as their leaders. Or to turn out in their thousands to pay their respects when one of these 'depraved men' die in these 'tribal areas'.

The rational explanation of the above to me would be that the idea that these 'tribal areas are controlled by depraved men' is a load of stereotypical nonsense and that there has to be a more reasonable and credible explanation.

Money is part of the answer. Fear part, plus many did flee the six counties. Doesnt explain it all though and one can but wonder how people can support or vote for such a low low calibre of person. Only you know Francie. You are a full time promoter apologist and supporter

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FrancieBrady wrote: »

In the free world JH I can think of very very few, if any 'depraved men' who are routinely elected again and again when other choices are available. Can you?

Are you suggesting Kingsmill for example becomes less depraved as time goes by and SF's popularity increases?

Truthvader

Bonniedog wrote: »

You didn't have to anything to end up in Ballykinlar or the Curragh. Clue is in the word "internment camp."

Portlaoise one was for membership of Provies.

OK if your family were imprisoned for no reason that is wrong and you are rightly aggrieved.

The person who was a member of "the Provies" who were dedicated to murder, stealing and assault clearly got what he deserved And no doubt is now reaping the benefits of the "peace process" - which he does not deserve

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Money is part of the answer. Fear part, plus many did flee the six counties. Doesnt explain it all though and one can but wonder how people can support or vote for such a low low calibre of person. Only you know Francie. You are a full time promoter apologist and supporter

Thousands and thousands are voting freely for these people because of money?

Do elaborate.

Bonniedog

I don't feel aggrieved, nor did they. It's history. No point in dwelling unhealthily on the past.

Of course anyone who joins any military organisation that uses violence is responsible for its actions even if not personally involved in them.

Same applies to those on British military, intelligence and political side with regards to supervising the loyalist campaign I referred to above. And indeed at the very least allowing the likes of Scap to torture and murder people.

No clean hands on either side.

Mortelaro

DINNY DINNY DINNY

*oops wrong thread

Truthvader

Bonniedog wrote: »

I don't feel aggrieved, nor did they. It's history. No point in dwelling unhealthily on the past.

Of course anyone who joins any military organisation that uses violence is responsible for its actions even if not personally involved in them.

Same applies to those on British military, intelligence and political side with regards to supervising the loyalist campaign I referred to above. And indeed at the very least allowing the likes of Scap to torture and murder people.

No clean hands on either side.

Agreed though british military intelligence are not asking for my vote.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

The bit in bold is the biggest lie put forward by the SF/IRA apologists.

The people never wanted the IRA. They only voted for Sinn Fein once the IRA stopped killing people for no reason. Yes, the nationalist people, they wanted a united Ireland, but they never wanted idiotic kids and criminal sociopaths to go around killing and bombing to get one. However, they are still a minority in the North.

What the people want, and the election results show this time and again, is peace and to remain part of the UK. It is delusional to imagine anything else.

Again, theres no need for an apology. SF are pround to go to the funeral of an IRA man. Have IRA in their party. You can keep trying to push it as a dirty secret but it's not reality. Its public knowledge.
The bit in bold is an opinion on how they came about not an apology.
If they never wanted them they would have gone the way or the Blueshirts.
Your opinion forgets the people weren't asked if they wanted to remain in the UK and many of them were not afforded the same rights as others.
But you know all this.

Truthvader

Bowie wrote: »

Again, theres no need for an apology. SF are pround to go to the funeral of an IRA man. Have IRA in their party. You can keep trying to push it as a dirty secret but it's not reality. Its public knowledge.
The bit in bold is an opinion on how they came about not an apology.
If they never wanted them they would have gone the way or the Blueshirts.
Your opinion forgets the people weren't asked if they wanted to remain in the UK and many of them were not afforded the same rights as others.
But you know all this.

And your first sentence is precisely why they are not fit to govern civilised people

James Brown

Truthvader wrote: »

And your first sentence is precisely why they are not fit to govern civilised people

What's civilised? Using taxpayer hard earned money to profit private business? Writing off millions in debt for gamblers? Fraud? Cronyism? Looking after our own? Crashing the economy?
Thanks in no small part to SF people from all communities have the option of voting for whom ever they like.

Truthvader

Bowie wrote: »

What's civilised? Using taxpayer hard earned money to profit private business? Writing off millions in debt for gamblers? Fraud? Cronyism? Looking after our own? Crashing the economy?
Thanks in no small part to SF people from all communities have the option of voting for whom ever they like.

Thanks in no small pary to SF people from all communities are dead

James Brown

Truthvader wrote: »

Agreed though british military intelligence are not asking for my vote.

The Tories are.

Truthvader

Bowie wrote: »

The Tories are.

No not running here

James Brown

Truthvader wrote: »

No not running here

Because we're not British. Thanks to terrorists.

Edgware

Bonniedog wrote: »

Or running the UVF and supplying them with intelligence and weapons to murder hundreds of Fenians and bomb the capital city of another state.

(That was the Brits by the way ..)

I cant remember UVF or British claiming to be republicans not that any of their actions would justify Birmingham or Enniskillen

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

The bit in bold is the biggest lie put forward by the SF/IRA apologists.

The people never wanted the IRA. They only voted for Sinn Fein once the IRA stopped killing people for no reason. Yes, the nationalist people, they wanted a united Ireland, but they never wanted idiotic kids and criminal sociopaths to go around killing and bombing to get one. However, they are still a minority in the North.

What the people want, and the election results show this time and again, is peace and to remain part of the UK. It is delusional to imagine anything else.

The bit in bold is the biggest lie put forward by the likes of yourself. I dont know which part of the north you grew up (which lets be honest, you didnt and you seem to know nothing of the place), but where I came from the PIRA were the only people who would do anything for you if you were beaten, robbed, burgled etc. The people DID want them - no point saying otherwise. They also DIDN'T want them as it would be much better if there was no need for them - but that was the society that had been been forced upon everyone - and all sides reacted to it.

Thats not going to stop the likes of you though talking absolute bollocks about the north - I know that.

maccored

Edgware wrote: »

I cant remember UVF or British claiming to be republicans not that any of their actions would justify Birmingham or Enniskillen

am I reading that right? Are you saying the british government never pretended to be republicans - ie plant a bomb and blame someone else? Youre right in that you've never heard them say that. thats because they wont - they will eventually though.

feargale

Bowie wrote: »

The Tories are.

And will you be voting for them?

James Brown

feargale wrote: »

And will you be voting for them?

Fine Gael would need make a lot of changes to get a vote off me.

feargale

Bowie wrote: »

If they never wanted them they would have gone the way or the Blueshirts.

Or Hitler's fellow travellers, for whom you will vote.

feargale

Truthvader wrote: »

No not running here

Bowie wrote: »

Because we're not British.

Make up your mind. They are running here or they are not.

McGinniesta

Why exactly did the shinners fail to form part of the government?

Was it by design or did they simply negotiate poorly?

Either way, I feel it may favour them. If, as I believe then we are a pube away form a serious economic downturn and the current government will be left holding the baby.

It's practical a certainty that FF will bollox up the country again perhaps playing into SF hands

McMurphy

feargale wrote: »

Or Hitler's fellow travellers, for whom you will vote.

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