One eyed Jack wrote: » Do you imagine the staff working in the UK prison services are thick or something? I know men do obviously, but do you? Do you imagine everyone is equally as thick that they cannot see when someone is taking the piss and have their No moment as you suggested earlier? What would that figure have to do with the legislation anyway? It’s a matter for the prison services to sort out. The figure for people who abuse the law has nothing to do with the figures for people who avail of their rights for their intended purpose. “Time to do away with marriage legislation for everyone , some people were found to be abusing it” :rolleyes:
LLMMLL wrote: » It's the only way to understand how people use language. To actually observe how people use it.
Gruffalox wrote: » But what does your username indicate ODB? Mine is because I wanted loads of other names and all of them were taken and I was just putting in random words at the end and when it accepted i couldn't even remember what I put in and I was like ffs when it said Welcome to Boards Gruffalox But is suppose it means I am a mythical hairy monster... My God! It fits perfectly!
CtevenSrowder wrote: » They didn't do anything wrong. Why do you think they did? It's a World Cup. Did Germany do anything wrong when they beat Saudi Arabia 9-0 back in 2002, or Germany beating Brazil 7-1 at Brazils home World Cup. Lad, with respect, I don't think you've a clue about sports.
Rodin wrote: » I wonder if I can identify as another race. Or an animal. To my mind it's the same as a man thinking they're a woman. I'm not allowed to tell a transwoman that they're not a woman because they have a cock and balls and don't have ovaries or a vagina, but Im sure as a white man if I started telling people I identify as a black man....
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Would this be a good time for you to meet my partner, Bobby Hill? Both of them are fictional characters, btw - unlike the charming Mr Crowder.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Just in case you've forgotten : 1) Renko wasn't racist 2) Renko is fictional.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Mine’s taken from a Breaking Bad quote. :pac:
gmisk wrote: » Ha no way. I thought it was a piss take of that rapper ODB!
Deleted User wrote: » I'm not blinkered enough to imagine that the responses shown aren't cherry picked, but I do appreciate long form interviews that are unedited.
hetuzozaho wrote: » I guess he doesn't need to edit the cherry picked ones. IMO, he's terrible
Sittingpretty wrote: » The strength differential between male and female in most species is HUGE.
2u2me wrote: » The US women's national soccer team are truly the best women's team ever seen. If self-ID and transitioning arer allowed into the sport the arena for biological women to showcase their talent would end immediately. The USWNT(the same one that beat Thailand 13:0) lost 2:5 vs Dallas FC's u15 boys team. John McEnroe made the same argument in tennis that Serena Williams(the greatest female tennis player that ever lived) would lose to the world's #700 in tennis. Apparently this has become controversial.
Deleted User wrote: » he allows debate which is refreshing
hetuzozaho wrote: » IMO he tricks people into thinking he does. Anyway prob off topic
2u2me wrote: » He's as terrible as Colbert, Oliver, Bee, etc... I enjoy his 'change my mind' segments I remember this one in particular where a guy Yusuf pretty much destroys crowder in "Socialism is evil, change my mind" (7mins25seconds start very good watch). .
Deleted User wrote: » I honestly thought the same. Mind blown
[Deleted User] wrote: » If you can be tricked by listening to someone else's opinion, you probably hadn't a strong enough opinion in the first place. You could say that about anyone who parrots John Oliver affer watching his episodes or anyone who listens to James Corden (of all people!!) or any late night host when they do a very left leaning monologue invariably about trump or white privilege Giving a convincing, albeit biased, account of your opinion is not a trick.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Remember when Skylar goes daft at Walt (actually, that doesn’t really narrow it down much) and yells at him “Okay, don't talk, Walt! Shut up and say something that isn't complete bull****! You want to know what you have to do? You have to tell me what's really going on right now - today. No more excuses, no more apologies, no more of these...these obvious desperate breakfasts! You don't wanna lose contact with me, Walt? Good. Then tell me. Now.”
hetuzozaho wrote: » You've lost me. Maybe my post wasn't clear?
[Deleted User] wrote: » I observe that black people use the dirty n word a lot. If I identify as black, can I use the bad n word with your support?
[Deleted User] wrote: » My apologies, I misread it. I thought you said he tricks people into thinking like he does. I see now you meant he tricks people into thinking he is open to debate (which is obviously hugely different) I respectfully disagree. I've seen enough Crowder debates, even outside change my mind, to know that he isn't shy to let opposition speak freely. But again, I do understand why he may grate on people.
Deleted User wrote: » Again...mind blown. (As a very off topic aside, I might not always agree with everything you say on here, but you are always one of the first people I look forward to reading. Thank you)
Gruffalox wrote: » https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/29/record-numbers-transgender-prisoners-transition-men-women/ They don't have self ID officially. But you will have to talk to Peter Clarke, Director of Prisons, who said people "self identifying" as trans in prison are growing in number, and he was not refering to the small number with GR Certs who are statistically measured differently. These are extra that the Minister called self identifying. The following is a longish thing about GRC trans prisoners versus "case conference" trans prisoners (and the whole sex offender thing). You will see that GRC is not necessary in UK prison to identify as trans. So effectively in practise self ID is feasible.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-42221629 It is a bit complicated but between the two articles you can get a flavour.
LLMMLL wrote: » According to your own links, in England and Wales: "In England and Wales, she can only be located in a women's prison if she's had a case conference. Case conferences are told to watch out for evidence that the offender's decision to transition is related to their sentence length or a way of gaining access to future victims. The guidelines for managing transgender offenders were rewritten in 2016 after the government commissioned a review. The report stated: "Any assessment of a transgender offender's risk of reoffending should be based on valid, evidenced factors that relate to that individual, as for any other offender. We have seen no evidence that being transgender is in itself linked to risk. Risk assessments must be free from assumptions or stereotyping." So if it is the case that 1 in 10 travellers prisoners are faking being trans They are not going to be placed in women's prisons anytime soon.
[Deleted User] wrote: » If I'm reading that right, you are supporting other people deciding through assessment whether or not people are genuine in their transition or self identification? That's a bit transphobic no?
LLMMLL wrote: » I support not placing sexual abusers in prison with other inmates, male or female. 2 of the 7 rapes that occurred over 8 years were committed by Karen White. The issue is not whether White's claims were genuine (she is fully transitioning). It is that there was a massive failure to assess her. The process was faulty. This does not mean there is an issue generally. If a prison fails to vet one of their prison guards who has a record for sexual assaults, does that automatically mean that's there should be no male prison guards in female prisons? What of they fail to vet a female prison guards with sexual assaults convictions? What are the consequences you would sand then?
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