LLMMLL wrote: » Ok so for female you are not using the "gamete" definition? And yes, most people forget their junior cert biology. That's not a poor opinion of education standards. It's a normal opinion about the amount of people who retain can facts from their junior cert courses.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » You said women in your last post. Are you now asking me what the definition of female is? 'a person bearing two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei and normally having a vagina, a uterus and ovaries, and developing at puberty a relatively rounded body and enlarged breasts, and retaining a beardless face; a girl or woman'. The above is the the noun version.https://www.dictionary.com/browse/female Or, if you'd prefer the adjective version: 'of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes'.https://www.google.com/search?q=female+definition&oq=female+defi&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l4.3313j0j9&client=ms-android-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
LLMMLL wrote: » Would 99/100 people repeat those definitions?
Gruffalox wrote: » No matter how often the mantra is repeated that transwomen are women most people will eventually have a a moment where they will say No.
One eyed Jack wrote: » I had a No moment myself just now when I saw Arlene Foster on the news. I don’t expect Arlene Foster should be deprived of her liberty because in my opinion her visage is offensive. That’s essentially what you’re expecting should happen because someone, for whatever reason, offends your sensitivities. How far do you imagine you can stretch that before people have their own No moment that deprives you of any authority you imagine you should have over others?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Biological males should not be competing in women's sports, trans or not.
Gruffalox wrote: » It's also not about the person's appearance. The photos above are all complimentary in fact, I would have thought. Fox's tweet is their own. It is about the fact that the mantra transwomen are women leads to incoherent results such as male bodied people defeating women in their sports. Exception would have to be made or else female sports would die off. But once a single exception is made the whole basis of the gospel unravels.
KiKi III wrote: » Do you always define words by playing a round of Family Fortunes? “We asked 100 people to define woman...”
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Check out this fantastic mic drop by Martina Navratilova on the topic yesterday:https://twitter.com/martina/status/1278543915830870016?s=21
One eyed Jack wrote: » And what do you expect will happen when you make that declaration? “Pack it up lads, Cteven decides who gets to compete against who” It reminds me of the same sort of attitude of the Girl Scouts organisation when the Boy Scouts organisation recently decided that girls were welcome to join their organisation. Some people weren’t happy about it - Girls can join the Boy Scouts now -- but not everyone is happy about it Essentially, nobody is suggesting that girls and women cannot compete in girls and women’s sports any more. None of the competitors are entitled to medals in the first place, and other people competing if they really want to compete will continue to do so, and the minority who imagine it’s unfair will always find excuses to shove their competitors out of the competition in the hope of increasing their chances of winning. That mentality is as old as competitive sports itself. If other people don’t want to compete, I can’t see anyone trying to force them to.
BloodBath wrote: » So you're ok with trans women competing in female sports despite the scientific data showing they have a massive advantage from going through male puberty? Screw the rights of biological women eh? Only trans rights are important.
BloodBath wrote: » I think you would find a lot more support if you conceded ground on at least a couple of issues like this one and if some of the LGBTQ community didn't set out to destroy the reputation and careers of those opposed to it.
KiKi III wrote: » It’s not imagined that it’s unfair, it is unfair to have the biological advantages of being born male while competing in women’s sports.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Is it unfair that shortarses can’t compete with longbeans or vice versa as a consequence of differences in their biology?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Jesus Christ. Its already hard enough to get women to do sports past a certain age without compounding this by having them see men win medals in women's sports.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » I'm sorry Jack, but I'll always question the agenda of someone who thinks men should be able to compete in women's sports, particularly if that person is a man themselves. To me it can only be nefarious. Why do you think the majority of sport is sex segregated to begin with?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Are you against having different age groups In sports aswell? I mean, that 13 year old who is afraid to compete against the 30 year old man is just making excuses, right!
One eyed Jack wrote: » Essentially, nobody is suggesting that girls and women cannot compete in girls and women’s sports any more. None of the competitors are entitled to medals in the first place, and other people competing if they really want to compete will continue to do so, and the minority who imagine it’s unfair will always find excuses to shove their competitors out of the competition in the hope of increasing their chances of winning. That mentality is as old as competitive sports itself. If other people don’t want to compete, I can’t see anyone trying to force them to.
21 February 2020 • 9:40pm Transgender women were on Friday night facing further curbs on playing women’s rugby amid fears the sport’s rules could lead to serious injuries. World Rugby on Friday announced a “comprehensive review” of its policy on transgender players, which currently allows trans women to play women’s rugby provided they reduce their testosterone levels. It was also reported earlier this season that referees were quitting the women’s game over fears rules allowing trans women to play would lead to serious injuries and that officials had been warned not to challenge bearded or heavily muscled players....
Gruffalox wrote: » Most people would say it is unfair that this person won the 2018 UCI Masters Track Cycling World Championships for Women Most people would say it is unfair that this person won two golds and a silver in three of the women’s heavyweight categories at the Pacific Games in Samoa in 2019 Most people think it is unfair that this person smashed a woman's skull in an MMA fight and is still boasting about it....on Twitter (until they deleted the tweet) No matter how often the mantra is repeated that transwomen are women most people will eventually have a a moment where they will say No.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » This might be a good time to remember that no such issues have arisen in sport in Ireland in the past four or five years since self-id was introduced. It's also again fascinating to see the dedication to digging up obscure issues from obscure sports from obscure parts of the world to worry about, while ignoring the many difficulties that women and girls have in Ireland today competing in sports. Are those highlighting the big bogey man of transgender women doing anything to address to poor coverage in Irish media or second-class status of female sports in general or the problems of drugs in sport? Nah, they're sticking to the non-existent trans issue -which would lead a skeptic to question their genuine concern for women in sports.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » They can. The best 2 footballers in the World are Linoel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Messi is 5'6, whereas Ronaldo 6'2. Now, do you think any female footballer would ever have a shot at being the best footballer in the World if football was mixed? I'll help you out, they wouldn't. None would even make it to the professional ranks. The USA women's football team infamously lost 5-2 to to an U-15 academy team from Dallas. These lads weren't even the best 11 for their age group. The USA were the World Champions at the time (I think). Women's football would cease to exist if the sport became solely mixed.
Quantum Erasure wrote: » jesus man...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/02/21/world-rugby-tighten-transgender-policy/
CtevenSrowder wrote: » New Zealand is obscure is it? No it isn't.
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