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How long before Irish reunification? (Part 2) Threadbans in OP

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Continuation of the How long before Irish reunification? thread.

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FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Article outlining all the breaches of the regulations. Some neck on MON to criticise the BLM protests only a month earlier.

Makes you wonder if the SF TD and MLA have a choice when it comes to IRA funerals? Any fool could of predicted the media storm that would inevitably have followed. As Storey once said and Gerry too, "they haven't gone away".

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/sam-mcbride-despite-sinn-feins-trumpian-claims-storey-funeral-involved-least-10-breaches-public-health-advice-2903922

It was very very demonstratively NOT an IRA funeral...they are distinctly different.

[Deleted User]

Article outlining all the breaches of the regulations. Some neck on MON to criticise the BLM protests only a month earlier.

Makes you wonder if the SF TD and MLA have a choice when it comes to IRA funerals? Any fool could of predicted the media storm that would inevitably have followed. As Storey once said and Gerry too, "they haven't gone away".

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/sam-mcbride-despite-sinn-feins-trumpian-claims-storey-funeral-involved-least-10-breaches-public-health-advice-2903922

Sephiroth_dude

Edgware wrote: »

We all know Francie is a gob****e but we have to entertain his notions until a suitable village idiot position becomes available

Mod

Anymore of that and its a ban.

downcow

Edgware wrote: »

We all know Francie is a gob****e but we have to entertain his notions until a suitable village idiot position becomes available

Yeah inappropriate

Fionn1952

Edgware wrote: »

We all know Francie is a gob****e but we have to entertain his notions until a suitable village idiot position becomes available

Really? This is what reasonable discourse looks like to you? I might not agree with Francie on a fair few things, but this is blatant trolling. Maybe Francie is a bit further down the waiting list for that vacancy than some...

RobMc59

Edgware wrote: »

We all know Francie is a gob****e but we have to entertain his notions until a suitable village idiot position becomes available

That's a bit uncalled for.

Junkyard Tom

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Again you fail to see nuance life is not all kneecapping, bankrobbing, cover ups, and my glorified fallen are better than yours 'nah, nah, nah, nah' and so on.

I have no idea why you quoted me and wrote that. The conflict ended nearly a quarter of a century ago and I'm very glad it did.

In order to have any sort of a stable UI you will have to make the Unionist tradition feel included.

Indeed we will have a constitution that will enshrine rights for former unionists. Believing contemporary Unionists will have anything to do with a United Ireland before a pro-UI vote just displays your own ignorance of the nuances.

And the Unionists will take up arms against Republican oppression.

Firstly, Ireland won't be giving Unionists any excuses, and secondly, unionists would have nothing to fight for. A Unionist micro-statelet, or Unionist cantons, would not be viable.

You don't really give this stuff much thought do you? Just over-emotional outbursts.

Edgware

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

He heheh ..you must think people are total idiots, Francie.

You try to drop it down to ‘ attending a friends funeral’.

Jeez man you have a poor opinion of posters here, that you think you’d get away with that fcuuuhkery.

You have some neck to think that would roll, dude, I’ll have to give you that.

We all know Francie is a gob****e but we have to entertain his notions until a suitable village idiot position becomes available

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If it was mainly the public, I'd expect call in radio to light up. Did Duffy air even one call about it?

It is mainly political outrage here IMO

Dunno about Duffy sure isn't that show mostly auld ones giving out about the tame sex in Normal People?

I'm more coming from the angle that these issues actually affected people so will resonate more unlike for example that idiot td from waterford.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

My point was that in these cases the outrage is being felt by the public also and it's not just the usual political back and forth that nobody cares about.

COVID and funerals, misogyny and racism are all hot topics in the Republic as i'm sure you know.

If it was mainly the public, I'd expect call in radio to light up. Did Duffy air even one call about it?

It is mainly political outrage here IMO

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SF made a mistake here but not one that warrants calling for a woman to resign or say attending her friends funeral was a mistake.

He heheh ..you must think people are total idiots, Francie.

You try to drop it down to ‘ attending a friends funeral’.

Jeez man you have a poor opinion of posters here, that you think you’d get away with that fcuuuhkery.

You have some neck to think that would roll, dude, I’ll have to give you that.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Oh come on JH...it's the usual over the top outrage that is blind to the fact that the same mistakes have been made elsewhere.
What is clear from the election is that the public is well aware when that outrage is genuine and when it is faux for political gain.
SF made a mistake here but not one that warrants calling for a woman to resign or say attending her friends funeral was a mistake.

My point was that in these cases the outrage is being felt by the public also and it's not just the usual political back and forth that nobody cares about.

COVID and funerals, misogyny and racism are all hot topics in the Republic as i'm sure you know.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

I doubt it's just political outrage hence the apology. Plenty of people respected the rules for their own families funerals.

With regards the misogyny and racism from Holohan and the abortion debacle, they had there genesis on social media first before being picked up by the media.

Oh come on JH...it's the usual over the top outrage that is blind to the fact that the same mistakes have been made elsewhere.
What is clear from the election is that the public is well aware when that outrage is genuine and when it is faux for political gain.
SF made a mistake here but not one that warrants calling for a woman to resign or say attending her friends funeral was a mistake.

[Deleted User]

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Does anyone else see this other irony but me. The very flipping time it is publicly acceptable to wear a mask no one was wearing one. Not one I saw!

Yet precovid19 many in the Provos wore a republican form of PPE at funerals

Or this INLA one with protected black and whites

The 1st and 3rd guy need a bit more training the salute isn't very convincing.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Of course it will affect their poll figure...most of the political outrage is designed to affect that figure.

They have like everyone else been there before.

I doubt it's just political outrage hence the apology. Plenty of people respected the rules for their own families funerals.

With regards the misogyny and racism from Holohan and the abortion debacle, they had there genesis on social media first before being picked up by the media.

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who ever said SF are your usual political party? Particularly in the north.

I hope they never become the same as other main party's here. The uniform of the 'suit' has done enough damage

Won’t ever be replaced by the white shirt and black tie, a chara.

When one of your acolytes regales his audience with having ‘broken the State’ and ‘up the RA’ is then promoted to Opposition health spokesman, it kind of shows one what one is dealing with.

Not my opposition.

Keep that for the windswept hills where the dinosaurs and fossils populate.

gormdubhgorm

downcow wrote: »

I am sure most southerners, prior to talk of unification, would be interested to know who the ‘black & whites’ are. Hundreds of them invited by Sinn Fein.
Could anyone help us and explain who they are??

jh79 wrote: »

They seem to turn up at a lot at IRA funerals. Some coincidence alright.

Does anyone else see this other irony but me. The very flipping time it is publicly acceptable to wear a mask no one was wearing one. Not one I saw!

Yet precovid19 many in the Provos wore a republican form of PPE at funerals

Or this INLA one 2019 with protected black and whites

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[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who ever said SF are your usual political party? Particularly in the north.

I hope they never become the same as other main party's here. The uniform of the 'suit' has done enough damage

Bit of an insult to compare the normal ups and downs of any country with the trail of destruction left by the IRA/SF in this country and the UK.

I rather go through a couple of recessions than live through IRA tyranny.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

All of their own making. Will be interesting to see if it has any impact on the opinion polls.

Personally think the abortion amendment and Paddy "The Hooligan" Holohan debacle will have a greater impact. SF gained a lot of votes from the "woke" left with the "vote left transfer left" campaign. They have been very vocal in their disgust on these f*ck ups. General theme is that SF are just targeting that voter base rather than being a true left and liberal party and of course that Belfast calls the shots.

Of course it will affect their poll figure...most of the political outrage is designed to affect that figure.

They have like everyone else been there before.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you live in Ireland the same thing happens everytime SF make a mistake, particularly when high in the polls.

All of their own making. Will be interesting to see if it has any impact on the opinion polls.

Personally think the abortion amendment and Paddy "The Hooligan" Holohan debacle will have a greater impact. SF gained a lot of votes from the "woke" left with the "vote left transfer left" campaign. They have been very vocal in their disgust on these f*ck ups. General theme is that SF are just targeting that voter base rather than being a true left and liberal party and of course that Belfast calls the shots.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Bit unusual for a political party.

Who ever said SF are your usual political party? Particularly in the north.

I hope they never become the same as other main party's here. The uniform of the 'suit' has done enough damage

gormdubhgorm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

We neither seek nor require Unionist consent. When are people going to learn that Unionist electoral privilege is over? Have a read over the GFA and point out where it stipulates Unionist consent for a United Ireland.

Again you fail to see nuance life is not all kneecapping, bankrobbing, cover ups, and my glorified fallen are better than yours 'nah, nah, nah, nah' and so on.

In order to have any sort of a stable UI you will have to make the Unionist tradition feel included.

Otherwise any UI has no hope. It will be United in name only. And the Unionists will take up arms against Republican oppression. Rinse and repeat the Nordie pantomime of madness will continue from the headbangers on both sides. Sad thing is so called Irish Republicans have far more in common with thier so called West Brit enemy than they like to admit.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I showed a picture on the other thread of the Garda funeral, with men in the same shirt and tie.
They were I presume the local GAA team. I presume it is SFs way of showing the 'team' support.

Bit unusual for a political party.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Working from home today and it was just behind COVID and the recent TD appointments in the news all day.

Any more fallen "comrades" and MLD might have a tough decision to make.

If you live in Ireland the same thing happens everytime SF make a mistake, particularly when high in the polls.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

They seem to turn up at a lot at IRA funerals. Some coincidence alright.

I showed a picture on the other thread of the Garda funeral, with men in the same shirt and tie.
They were I presume the local GAA team. I presume it is SFs way of showing the 'team' support.

[Deleted User]

downcow wrote: »

I am curious as I am out of touch with news in ROI. How is this all going down? Is there pressure on Marylou for being involved in such an outrageous event? Is it being reported widely in ROI about the cremation versus funeral saga?

Working from home today and it was just behind COVID and the recent TD appointments in the news all day.

Any more fallen "comrades" and MLD might have a tough decision to make.

[Deleted User]

downcow wrote: »

I am sure most southerners, prior to talk of unification, would be interested to know who the ‘black & whites’ are. Hundreds of them invited by Sinn Fein.
Could anyone help us and explain who they are??

They seem to turn up at a lot at IRA funerals. Some coincidence alright.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What else would the PSNI be contributing...picking the hymns?

There is a difference between being involved in the "meticulous planning" of an event and just being made aware of it. SF made this claim of the PSNI. Either it's a lie or a gross exaggeration.

FrancieBrady

downcow wrote: »

This is where it all falls apart when anyone attempts to have a civil reasonable discussion with you.

You know rightly there is a huge range of communication between reminding them of the regs and meticulous planning.

They could talk about numbers, marshalling, etc etc
I have from good authority that the ira were stopping cars and checking ID in west Belfast before the funeral.

You tell the PSNi the numbers of marshalls and their locations and like everyone else...estimate the numbers.
You say that you will comply with regs...what else is there?
What are the OO doing in relation to parades but the very same.
The PSNI were there monitoring according to media...if the RA were stopping cars, did they intervene?
Another convenient 'friend' pops up to tell you something that feeds the belligerent loyalist agenda.

downcow

I am sure most southerners, prior to talk of unification, would be interested to know who the ‘black & whites’ are. Hundreds of them invited by Sinn Fein.
Could anyone help us and explain who they are??