Bowie wrote: » Bringing up the IRA is as relevant to each person as they feel it is. Have at it. Suggesting anyone supporting SF, giving them a vote or simply criticising FG is a 'RA man is nonsense. Was FG councilor O'Leary brought up the Blueshirts the other week. If you info on MLMD planting pipe bombs present it.
Bowie wrote: » You suggest all SF voters, (assuming there are) are IRA inclined from birth. We know FG Councilor O'Leary admires the Blueshirts and likens their resolve to present day Fine Gael, but if that's you suggestion on SF, the same could be said about FG supporters? Both as silly mind.
joeguevara wrote: » What the actual fcuck?
joeguevara wrote: » I never said anything of the sort. Hate both SF and FG and FF equally. I was saying that supporters should judge people on their actual actions in politics and not on whether they fall into a meme that a 15 year old posts on their facebook. Constantly brining up blueshirts is stupid though as they are not in modern times. IRA is still going and there are strong connections to SF. But again irrelevant. Why deflect on the past what SF are ineffectual at doing today.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » The IRA disbanded near 2 decades ago man. The Provos now, if you dont know hate Sinn Fein which is well known.https://www.thesun.ie/uncategorized/5110377/new-ira-threats-sinn-fein-stupid-dangerous/
joeguevara wrote: » FFS I have never mentioned SF and IRA or Provo or Sticky or I never lived in Andystown in the same breath. Why are you suggesting I did.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » "IRA is still going and there are strong connections to SF"
joeguevara wrote: » when have I ever said anything about IRA and SF. I think you have me confused with someone else bud.
McMurphy wrote: » Here?:pac:
joeguevara wrote: » Connections and being one of the same are two different things. I can be a spurs supporter and like chicken. Doesn't mean all spurs supporters like chicken. FFS lads.
McMurphy wrote: » Relax Joe, I thought the PAC emoji was a dead giveaway I was taking the Michael.:D
joeguevara wrote: » Minister for Energy has no experience in laundering diesel and Minister for Defence has never provided training to guerilla groups in South America. What experience do these lot actually have.
Bowie wrote: » I support SF's housing policy. If you can point to their pro car bomb policy be sure to let me know
McMurphy wrote: » I think the point of my post might have gone over your head. I was using no Bank account Bertie, and the connections he had with Michaél "money in wife's account"at the time and how FG don't seem to have have an issue with either. But God forbid you try and say you're qualified in something you dropped out of..... Hang draw and quarter that bowsie!
McMurphy wrote: » As i said already, some folk here have a problem with a lack of education level,
Bowie wrote: » Your questioned a comment I made to another poster. I was explaining my comment.
Truthvader wrote: » Ehh......... How about this from today's Timeshttps://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/to-leave-sinn-f%C3%A9in-is-to-leave-the-ira-adams-told-ardfheis-1.2907103
joeguevara wrote: » Ninja edit. You brought up craziness about fascism. If you are going to explain your comment do so. I’d like to see the reasoning to tell you the truth,
Bowie wrote: » SF are very proud of their IRA connection as seen by a funeral of a former member the other day If you vote SF, do you decide based on a different time, before the peace process, in a different jurisdiction or based on the obvious clear IRA links within the party? If voting FG do you do so because of the fascist roots, the antisemetism of Oliver J. Flanagan, etc.? If you vote FF, do you do so because Haughey was a swell guy? Or in any case vote for the party putting forward the policies appeal to you most? I would suggest that's what many people do. MM said the other day that civil war politics was over. My understanding is the peace process began with the cessation of IRA activities sealed with the GFA back in the nineties. Some people, like myself will give any party a vote if they've policies they like.
Truthvader wrote: » You just dont get it. Its not OK to murder. And its not OK to celebrate and glorify sociopaths. People who do so are not fit to govern anything
Bowie wrote: » Yes, I do that a lot. On the phone. So what? I responded to a comment, you jumped in. Yes I did to show my point. Read my comment. It's all there.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Monumentally stupid decision by SF. SF in both the North and South now have absolutely no creditability when it comes to discussing the pandemic; the distinct possibility of a new spike in cases in the coming weeks, or the measures being taken to control it. Can you imagine the outrage by the Shinnerbots on Twitter and the Journal if the UDA had organised a funeral, cordoned off an area of Belfast to hold it, had most of the big wigs in the DUP march behind the coffin, taking selfies at the grave afterwards, while the streets of the Shankill were covered in tough looking fúckers with buzzcuts and dressed in white shirts, black tie, and leather jackets? The utter hypocrisy by SF and their online army really is astonishing to witness. Complete clusterfúck of a situation, and everyone knows it.
blanch152 wrote: » There are quite a few who don't get it. The most astonishing are those who equate the current living memories of Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Bobby Storey and the likes with historical figures from the past. They really don't get the difference between 1916, 1921, 1930 and today, and that the standards of today are what matters when you apply them to the people of today. Once you do that, you realise that Sinn Fein are at least 30 years away from being considered suitable for government if they continue on their current path. They don't realise that a suitable apology for their past support of the IRA and an acknowledgement that the IRA were wrong (particularly post-Sunningdale) is the minimum of what is needed to allow them to be even considered as a suitable party of government for the vast majority of people in the South.