Truthvader wrote: » "Cherry Picking"???? I am talking about the behaviour and actions of man who dedicated his life to killing and injuring other people. No cherry picking required - unless we are playing the Sinn Fein game that he was a "peacemaker" when he got what he wanted and stopped - though still entitled to the odd Bank robbery or killing if it suited him
McMurphy wrote: » Sinn Féin announced their new front bench. .
TheCitizen wrote: » Ah so you're going to attack SF by cherry picking events from the conflict that ended after the GFA was implemented over 20 years ago. Same ould ding dong.
markodaly wrote: » SF leadership. We are hearing how SF did all it could to keep the funeral as safe as possible, so why did SF TDs from the far south of Ireland travel all the way to Belfast then? Speaking with forked tongues.
The frontbench has strong representation from rural Ireland as well as our cities and gender equality is at the heart of the team
Sinn Féin Dáil Frontbench July 2020 Mary Lou McDonald – Leader and Uachtarán Sinn Féin Pearse Doherty – Finance and Deputy Dáil Leader Louise O’Reilly – Enterprise, Trade and Employment Mairead Farrell – Public Expenditure and Reform Claire Kerrane – Social Protection, Community & Rural Development and the Islands Eoin Ó Broin – Housing, Local Government and Heritage David Cullinane – Health Darren O Rourke – Climate Action, Communications Networks & Transport Matt Carthy – Agriculture, Food and the Marine Kathleen Funchion – Children, Disability, Equality and Integration Rose Conway Walsh – Higher Innovation and Science Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire – Education John Brady – Foreign Affairs and Defence Martin Kenny – Justice Imelda Munster – Media, Tourism, Arts, Culture, Sport and the Gaeltacht Aengus Ó Snodaigh – Gaeilge, Gaeltacht, Cuture and Arts Pádraig Mac Lochlainn – Party Whip Niall Ó Donnghaile – Seanad Leader
markodaly wrote: » Well, we all know this is not true. When have you ever criticised SF for example, without a huge dose of whataboutery accompanying it? Oh, but you voted for SF for the first time ever this year? Come off it. It's like the Fox News 'Fair and Balanced' slogan.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I don't trust ANY political party on this island. That is why I can criticise them from the get go if they handle something badly.
McMurphy wrote: » Held accountable by whom?
Truthvader wrote: » "War" is not some abstract plague that arrives like covid 19. It requires people like Bobby Storey prepared to plant a bomb at a shop and blow the legs off a teenage girl to get what he wants. And in anticipation of the "whataboutery"; it also requires a Parachute Regiment so ill disciplined and out of control that they murder 13 innocent people. Both acts are subhuman and despicable - and neither justifies the other except in the mind of an person like Bobby Storey
Mortelaro wrote: » I actually feel sorry for the front line sf keyboard warriors because they have to carry on regardless of the valid rebuttals whilst their parties leaders do what they like irrespective of what it looks like HQ should have more respect for them The likes of the rest of us can come and go in these threads as we please Long may that be the case
McMurphy wrote: » Yet Garda Horkans funeral had the same displays of social distancing guidelines being ignored by mourner's. We know you like to apply rules and laws differently depending on who is or is not adhering to them, but this is a new level of silliness even from you.
Hurrache wrote: » It's still unbelievable that people are still trying to defend the blatant hypocrisy (with their usual nonsense whataboutery, and now stretching it more trying to say it's just political point scoring) of SF. They're the ones that brought and reiterated the rules when it comes to funerals ffs. I wonder how many SF members and supporters quickly deleted their tweets complaining about Varadkar being in the park.
joeguevara wrote: » Minister for Energy has no experience in laundering diesel and Minister for Defence has never provided training to guerilla groups in South America. What experience do these lot actually have.
jh79 wrote: » Pressure piling up on MON now and some are calling for the SF TD's to stay away from the Dail and quarantine.https://www.thejournal.ie/dup-michelle-oneill-bobby-storey-funeral-5139268-Jul2020/
JohnnyFlash wrote: » I see Colum Eastwood from the SDLP has asked for O’Neill to stand aside during the police investigation.
blanch152 wrote: » The only thing I will say to you is that a lot of us told you so. Sinn Fein are not to be trusted on anything. They are not to be trusted to obey public health guidelines, they are not to be trusted to obey the law, so why anyone would be mad enough to vote for them and trust them to keep their promises?
blanch152 wrote: » Group of five sitting outside, compared to a funeral with a cast of what appears to be thousands? Get up the yard with the silliness. Desperate attempts at point-scoring, deflection and whataboutery from the Sinn Fein defence brigade.
Truthvader wrote: » Read back. Not bothered at all by he social distancing argument on either side. It seems petty and pointless. Very bothered by the glorification and air brushing of a murdering thug and the reference to his "poor family" in circumstances where he was responsible for the malicious and deliberate destruction of so many other families in pursuit of whatever he wanted. If FF/ FG/PBP or the Greens were at the same thing I would call them out too. But they're not.
blanch152 wrote: » Instead of re-imagining what I said and re-inventing it as something else, why don't you address the point I made about trust in Sinn Fein. By the way, that isn't the only example of Sinn Fein and its members disregard of the law.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This 'conviction' just in from the man who was looking for O'Neill to step aside while a police investigation takes place to see what restrictions were broken. Why would she bother when she has been found guilty already in the Special Shinner Court of blanch.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Can we all just agree, SF supporters or opponents, that this was a moronic and stupid move for SF on many levels? For me it doesn't negate issues of policy and ideology and I certainly hope that's the case at the next election, but defending the indefensible is the kind of sh!te FFG get up to routinely, there's absolutely no need for the left to do the same. It was a mistake, it set a horrendous example, it will have knock on effects on for example 12th of July parades and it gave the opposition an absolutely massive cudgel to beat SF with for the next few weeks at the very least. It was a stupid, stupid thing to do. As a new-found fan of SF I'm incredibly disappointed and I doubt I'm the only one. Having said all that, nothing means more to me than opposing neoliberalism in politics at the moment so they'll still get my support along with the rest of the Irish left in trying to smash the FFG cabal.
smurgen wrote: » Meanwhile in Cork FFG had a tea party. Literally the same day.https://twitter.com/CllrDesCahil/status/1277904797207801856?s=19
maccored wrote: » Two different jurisdictions completely with two different sets of rules re: covid 19. thats not a loophole - its just another example of the stupidity of a border
TheCitizen wrote: » But just SF hypocrisy and double think while ignoring the hypocrisy of FFG representatives also not adhering to social distancing guidelines but pontificating about SF. :pac: Amazing hypocrisy and lack of self awareness from FFG fans on here.