Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Mortelaro · 02-07-2020 10:22AM

McMurphy wrote: »

What would you refer to the (still deferred?) Proposed state commemoration of the RIC Christy?

Yeah, Sinn Fein leadership most definitely should have shown better judgement surrounding the funeral up north - though I've no truck with MON in Dublin last weekend, she could quite rightly travelled to essential work purposes, the fact that even if folk down here don't agree with that, apart from tough sh1t Paddy, the laws put in place here by you know who made her exempt from any restrictions anyway.

Moving on, I see fg are asking for shinners who attended the funeral to stay away from the Dail for 14 days.

What a bunch of numpties, they've no skin on their faces at all.

Just leave this here.

https://twitter.com/runyourmouthoff/status/1278582226347798535?s=09

Unfortunately for your argument he is socially distanced there if that is him

aido79 · 02-07-2020 10:24AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Jesus, that Matt Carthy goon made a right show of himself on the Tonight Show. Got way too emotional and defensive.

Bad few days for the Shinners and their online army.

I would see him as one of the better SF politicians so this really isn't a good sign of things to come for SF.
I honestly believe that if they still have 38 seats by the time the current government is finished it will be a huge achievement for them. I can see Mary Lou McDonald stepping in for damage limitation along the way.

christy c · 02-07-2020 10:25AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Who’s playing the poor me card? SF will now look forward to leading opposition for the first time. For the first time in the Dáil opposition will be lead by someone other than FFG. A great opportunity for SF.

The “poor me” sentiment that you refer to if anything is seething out of FFG fans on here as they lament the loss of their double lock mechanism insurance policy grip on the trappings of office in the Republic. “Poor me” (FFG) indeed LOL.

Who's playing the poor me card? You, having your little whinge about this thread. And Sf, talking about others politicising this event, when politicising things is exactly what they do themselves.

Anyway, if SF are determined to shoot themselves in the foot off with them.

christy c · 02-07-2020 10:28AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Are you going to tell me you don’t vote FG Christy, if you vote FF what difference does that make exactly?

FFGer is a distraction label? It is not, it’s more relevant now than it ever was.

Next thing Christy might tell us is he doesn’t vote FF either, yet he spends his time attacking SF for everything and anything like an FFGer.

I vote FG as best of a bad lot, and despise SF for their idiotic policies (most recently their stupid pension and tax policies).

FFGer is something stupid so you can label someone who disagrees with SF and therefore dismiss their opinions.

FrancieBrady · 02-07-2020 10:29AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

I defacto did withdraw that she took the actual selfie
Is it any better that she pised and smiled for it?
As for defending other photos,I'd have zero hesitation defending Michelle o Niell if this was a phot took with a zoom lens and someone hadn't their arm around her
But its not is it

You have no idea of the circumstances, somebody else took a selfie, was she meant to be fighting the guy on the right...elbowing him in the face, pushing him away? You can take a photo on a phone in a second.
How do you know, in other words?

Here is another of the pathetic and manipulative uses of the photo's that you have just engaged in. This is what was used in the media; Eb2v4ukWsAISWv0?format=jpg&name=360x360

Michelle O'Neill shock horror shaking hands.

See the pic it was cropped from

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and it shows O'Neill responding to Storey's Down's Syndrome brother.

I myself had to be checked when I went to tickle the toddler child of a friend the other day. I just forget and responded the way I would for a lifetime.

Not something she should have done either, but I, would see it as a fairly understandable human mistake rather than a crime.

To represent it as she was going around shaking hands is as despicable as saying she was going around taking selfie's.
That is the level you are dropping to. The guy who got the tape measures out and the forensics to defend every instance elsewhere.

blanch152 · 02-07-2020 10:32AM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/irish-examiner-view-is-sinn-fein-on-the-wrong-path-1008786.html

"But these are not normal times and Sinn Féin senior figures in attendance, who now form the opposition party in this country, should not have ignored the Covid-19 restrictions of the present, forced upon so many who have not been able to grieve the loss of loved ones. "

The Examiner gets in on the act this morning, calling out Sinn Fein leadership and senior figures for breaking the rules in an editorial.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0702/1150942-coronavirus-northern-ireland-funeral/

Now O'Neill has been asked to step aside during an enquiry. Remember this was the demand that Sinn Fein made of Foster and subsequently they brought down the Assembly for this. If Sinn Fein are not a complete bunch of hypocrites, she needs to step aside. Failure to step aside shows once and for all that the collapse of the Assembly by Sinn Fein was a cynical political act and nothing to do with principle.

The Independent are reporting that there are calls for Mary-Lou et al to stay away from the Dail because of the risk.

It doesn't look like this is going away anytime soon.

christy c · 02-07-2020 10:32AM

McMurphy wrote: »

What would you refer to the (still deferred?) Proposed state commemoration of the RIC Christy?

I think it was stupid, and probably cost them votes. But as the current topic demonstrates, SF are well able to match or exceed their stupidity. And throw in the arrogance by themselves and their supporters and we could be looking at a SF/FG merger

blanch152 · 02-07-2020 10:33AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You have no idea of the circumstances, somebody else took a selfie, was she meant to be fighting the guy on the right...elbowing him in the face, pushing him away? You can take a photo on a phone in a second.
How do you know, in other words?

Here is another of the pathetic and manipulative uses of the photo's that you have just engaged in. This is what was used in the media;

Michelle O'Neill shock horror shaking hands.

See the pic it was cropped from

and it shows O'Neill responding to Storey's Down's Syndrome brother.

I myself had to be checked when I went to tickle the toddler child of a friend the other day. I just forget and responded the way I would for a lifetime.

Not something she should have done either, but I, would see it as a fairly understandable human mistake rather than a crime.

To represent it as she was going around shaking hands is as despicable as saying she was going around taking selfie's.
That is the level you are dropping to. The guy who got the tape measures out and the forensics to defend every instance elsewhere.

Christ almighty, children are not allowed hug their grandparents, and you are excusing Michelle for this.

FrancieBrady · 02-07-2020 10:38AM

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/irish-examiner-view-is-sinn-fein-on-the-wrong-path-1008786.html

"But these are not normal times and Sinn Féin senior figures in attendance, who now form the opposition party in this country, should not have ignored the Covid-19 restrictions of the present, forced upon so many who have not been able to grieve the loss of loved ones. "

The Examiner gets in on the act this morning, calling out Sinn Fein leadership and senior figures for breaking the rules in an editorial.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0702/1150942-coronavirus-northern-ireland-funeral/

Now O'Neill has been asked to step aside during an enquiry. Remember this was the demand that Sinn Fein made of Foster and subsequently they brought down the Assembly for this. If Sinn Fein are not a complete bunch of hypocrites, she needs to step aside. Failure to step aside shows once and for all that the collapse of the Assembly by Sinn Fein was a cynical political act and nothing to do with principle.

The Independent are reporting that there are calls for Mary-Lou et al to stay away from the Dail because of the risk.

It doesn't look like this is going away anytime soon.

Wow, just wow.

Confusing the difference in an independent short police inquiry and a tribunal carried out under the auspices and terms of reference set by the body you are leader of, takes some gymnastics.

FrancieBrady · 02-07-2020 10:39AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Christ almighty, children are not allowed hug their grandparents, and you are excusing Michelle for this.

Did you see the sentence that says...'Not something she should have done either' or have you gone completely and selectively blind again?

TheCitizen · 02-07-2020 10:44AM

christy c wrote: »

Who's playing the poor me card? You, having your little whinge about this thread.

I'm not whingeing about the thread, I'm describing the thread for what it is and I'm saying quite clearly that FFGers will attack SF now more than ever but it matters little and if anything it could galvanise SF support. SF have an opportunity to grow in opposition, depending on how they perform themselves really.

christy c wrote: »

And Sf, talking about others politicising this event, when politicising things is exactly what they do themselves.

Yes Christy, that's what political parties do, who's whingeing now exactly?

christy c wrote: »

Anyway, if SF are determined to shoot themselves in the foot off with them.

Except you won't do that Christy, you can't stop yourself. Like some of the reps in the party you vote for who are calling for SF TD's who were at the funeral in Belfast to quarantine for 14 days while ignoring FFG politicians who were not social distancing either at Garda Horkan's funeral or who flew in from Brussells and went directly to the Dáil. Give it a rest Christy.

McMurphy · 02-07-2020 10:46AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Unfortunately for your argument he is socially distanced there

Sure he is. Sure.

if that is him

What's this ? Charlie's Scooby Doo moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8fjVNg9Lv0

TheCitizen · 02-07-2020 10:48AM

christy c wrote: »

I vote FG as best of a bad lot, and despise SF for their idiotic policies (most recently their stupid pension and tax policies).

Right, like I said, a thread for anything and everything if you want to have a pop at SF. No discussion of their tax policies, just that they're stupid. Great contribution there Christy.

christy c wrote: »

FFGer is something stupid so you can label someone who disagrees with SF and therefore dismiss their opinions.

FFG is more relevant than ever Christy a chara, given that they (FFFG) are now officially joined at the hip.

blanch152 · 02-07-2020 10:49AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

I'm not whingeing about the thread, I'm describing the thread for what it is and I'm saying quite clearly that FFGers will attack SF now more than ever but it matters little and if anything it could galvanise SF support. SF have an opportunity to grow in opposition, depending on how they perform themselves really.

Yes Christy, that's what political parties do, who's whingeing now exactly?

Except you won't do that Christy, you can't stop yourself. Like some of the reps in the party you vote for who are calling for SF TD's who were at the funeral in Belfast to quarantine for 14 days while ignoring FFG politicians who were not social distancing either at Garda Horkan's funeral or who flew in from Brussells and went directly to the Dáil. Give it a rest Christy.

The reckless behaviour by Mary-Lou and the other senior SF politicians means that they can't credibly oppose any Covid-19 measure in the Dail.

The SDs and Labour will have to step up to lead the opposition.

JohnnyFlash · 02-07-2020 10:53AM

blanch152 wrote: »

The reckless behaviour by Mary-Lou and the other senior SF politicians means that they can't credibly oppose any Covid-19 measure in the Dail.

The SDs and Labour will have to step up to lead the opposition.

That’s it really. You can have Louise Reilly giving out to Stephen Donnelly about Covid when her leader thought it was perfectly ok to break rules to attend the funeral of a terrorist.

Optics don’t work there.

Mortelaro · 02-07-2020 10:53AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You have no idea of the circumstances, somebody else took a selfie, was she meant to be fighting the guy on the right...elbowing him in the face, pushing him away? You can take a photo on a phone in a second.
How do you know, in other words?

Here is another of the pathetic and manipulative uses of the photo's that you have just engaged in. This is what was used in the media;

Michelle O'Neill shock horror shaking hands.

See the pic it was cropped from

and it shows O'Neill responding to Storey's Down's Syndrome brother.

I myself had to be checked when I went to tickle the toddler child of a friend the other day. I just forget and responded the way I would for a lifetime.

Not something she should have done either, but I, would see it as a fairly understandable human mistake rather than a crime.

To represent it as she was going around shaking hands is as despicable as saying she was going around taking selfie's.
That is the level you are dropping to. The guy who got the tape measures out and the forensics to defend every instance elsewhere.

Posing for a selfie does not fall into the same category as reflex tickling a child

in this and its sister thread,colleagues of yours here have been throwing up dubious and debunked photos of Leo and others flouting social distancing and you have been among the jeer leaders

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander except here is a case where the SF vice president and ard Chomhairle member that directs sf policy island wide is literally caught red sauce handed

FrancieBrady · 02-07-2020 10:57AM

blanch152 wrote: »

The reckless behaviour by Mary-Lou and the other senior SF politicians means that they can't credibly oppose any Covid-19 measure in the Dail.

The SDs and Labour will have to step up to lead the opposition.

Well if they succeed in finally excluding the opposition they clearly fear, it might be the only way to keep the coalition democratic.

christy c · 02-07-2020 10:57AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Right, like I said, a thread for anything and everything if you want to have a pop at SF. No discussion of their tax policies, just that they're stupid. Great contribution there Christy.

FFG is more relevant than ever Christy a chara, given that they (FFFG) are now officially joined at the hip.

There's more than enough valid reasons for people to "have a pop". I have brought up their tax and pension policies and explained why they were stupid previously.

FFG is a silly name now matter how you spin it, as I said mostly used as a label so opinions can be dismissed.

McMurphy · 02-07-2020 10:58AM

blanch152 wrote: »

The reckless behaviour by Mary-Lou and the other senior SF politicians means that they can't credibly oppose any Covid-19 measure in the Dail.

The SDs and Labour will have to step up to lead the opposition.

Blanch, yourself and others are showing yourselves up for the absolute hypocritical posters you are.

Seems like a wet week ago when McDonald actually had covid, and at the height of restrictions, you were on here for weeks calling her a coward suffering from a head cold and why wasn't she out, front of house, and was instead "hiding away" pretending to be ill. etc etc.

Now when the restrictions have been lifted, McDonald has recovered from covid and has antibodies, she is "reckless", you've not a credible bone in your skeleton.

I can just picture you now, staring at your keyboard with the face, red as a beetroot, thinking of a comeback that isn't going to come

TheCitizen · 02-07-2020 11:00AM

blanch152 wrote: »

The reckless behaviour by Mary-Lou and the other senior SF politicians means that they can't credibly oppose any Covid-19 measure in the Dail.

The SDs and Labour will have to step up to lead the opposition.

:pac: This is going to be an interesting Dáil alright.

They've opened up the airports with people flying in and out and the conditions not set in place for such activity. There is a serious side to this issue and it really shows up the FFG lead government for what they are if they're going to play silly buggers with it by banging on about an SF funeral while there was similar non social distancing at other events that FFG politicians were at and FFG politicians step off planes and go directly into the Dail.

One wonders will FFG get anything done at all what with their obsession with SF and then Miriam O'Callaghan's disgruntled sibling and others sharpening knives behind Micheál's back.

smurgen · 02-07-2020 11:00AM

The FG and FF MEP's flying right from Brussels to the convention center without the two week quarantine seems to have gone unnoticed.None are T.D so had no business going there. Also Belgium one of the worst internationally for Covid 19.

https://twitter.com/BillyKelleherEU/status/1276898708966211589?s=19

02-07-2020 11:02AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Blanch, yourself and others are showing yourselves up for the absolute hypocritical posters you are.

Seems like a wet week ago when McDonald actually had covid, and at the height of restrictions, you were on here for weeks calling her a coward suffering from a head cold and why wasn't she out, front of house, and was instead "hiding away" pretending to be ill. etc etc.

Now when the restrictions have been lifted, McDonald has recovered from covid and has antibodies, she is "reckless", you've not a credible bone in your skeleton.

I can just picture you now, staring at your keyboard with the face, red as a beetroot, thinking of a comeback that isn't going to come

There is no evidence that she has immunity due to prior in infection.

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19#:~:text=There%20is%20currently%20no%20evidence,from%20a%20second%20infection.

christy c · 02-07-2020 11:03AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

I'm not whingeing about the thread, I'm describing the thread for what it is and I'm saying quite clearly that FFGers will attack SF now more than ever but it matters little and if anything it could galvanise SF support. SF have an opportunity to grow in opposition, depending on how they perform themselves really.

Yes Christy, that's what political parties do, who's whingeing now exactly?

Except you won't do that Christy, you can't stop yourself. Like some of the reps in the party you vote for who are calling for SF TD's who were at the funeral in Belfast to quarantine for 14 days while ignoring FFG politicians who were not social distancing either at Garda Horkan's funeral or who flew in from Brussells and went directly to the Dáil. Give it a rest Christy.

OK i thought you were complaining about the thread, if you're happy enough for it to continue then fair enough.

Yes thats what parties do, but a bit hypocritical for Pearse to be complaining when he's on the receiving end of his own type of nonsense.

I can't stop myself doing what exactly? As I said, I vote for FG as best of a bad lot. I dont agree with a lot of what they do, and they are more than capable of making themselves look stupid too.

Mortelaro · 02-07-2020 11:03AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Sure he is. Sure.

What's this ? Charlie's Scooby Doo moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8fjVNg9Lv0

I know, ye like to ignore zoom lens effects,I know ye like to ignore reality
There's no need to tell us that repeatedly because, unfortunately no matter how many times you ignore it,it doesn't change
The photo ye put up,doesn't actually show Flanagan inside someone's 2m distance

Why I'm saying if its him is because I'm surprised as ye are all the time going on about how Anglo he is and secondly because imho he shouldn't be there

I don't have a problem with SF T.D's being there and have said so except they really shouldn't have been in the church, at the expense of relatives,again imho,but Francie suggested if I'm reading this right thats what the excluded relatives wanted and I understand that

I do think the selfie was stupidity and bad optics/bad example giving from a legislator

FrancieBrady · 02-07-2020 11:04AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Posing for a selfie does not fall into the same category as reflex tickling a child

Ah the misrepresentation rebuttal.

Did I compare posing for a selfie with reflex tickling of a child????
No I didn't, I compared it to the the reflex shaking of a Down Syndrome man's hand.

You just can't help revaluing that word 'lie' can you Mort for political effect.

in this and its sister thread,colleagues of yours here have been throwing up dubious and debunked photos of Leo and others flouting social distancing and you have been among the jeer leaders

Anything I said about Leo an his beers in the park was along the lines of he really should have thought better of the signal he was sending. Exactly the same criticism I made here from my first post on the issue.

You cannot change your record...defended every non SF breach to the hilt.

TheCitizen · 02-07-2020 11:05AM

christy c wrote: »

There's more than enough valid reasons for people to "have a pop". I have brought up their tax and pension policies and explained why they were stupid previously.

FFG is a silly name now matter how you spin it, as I said mostly used as a label so opinions can be dismissed.

You're just repeating yourself now Christy.

bobbysands81 · 02-07-2020 11:05AM

blanch152 wrote: »

The reckless behaviour by Mary-Lou and the other senior SF politicians means that they can't credibly oppose any Covid-19 measure in the Dail.

The SDs and Labour will have to step up to lead the opposition.

Hahahahahahahahaha ***breathe*** hahahahahahahahaha

dundalkfc10 · 02-07-2020 11:06AM

The poor family of Mr Storey, seen Politicians use his funeral to point score, people cropping pics to suit their agenda. A ****ing disgrace.

Anyone doing it, have a hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself how does your parents feel after raising you that you have turned out to be a total scumbag

dundalkfc10 · 02-07-2020 11:10AM

smurgen wrote: »

The FG and FF MEP's flying right from Brussels to the convention center without the two week quarantine seems to have gone unnoticed.None are T.D so had no business going there. Also Belgium one of the worst internationally for Covid 19.

https://twitter.com/BillyKelleherEU/status/1276898708966211589?s=19

That does not matter. They were not in the Ra

JohnnyFlash · 02-07-2020 11:14AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The poor family of Mr Storey, seen Politicians use his funeral to point score, people cropping pics to suit their agenda. A ****ing disgrace.

Anyone doing it, have a hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself how does your parents feel after raising you that you have turned out to be a total scumbag

A total scumbag was someone who was ok with the idea of planting a car bomb outside shops so it could murder and main innocent people.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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