LeinsterDub wrote: » Depends on how you measure it. The swimming pool filled with great white sharks can claim 0 drownings a year. Deaths per km walked or cycled is a far better measure
dashcamdanny wrote: » a cyclist you cannot overtake on the inside if the vehicle you intend to overtake: Is signalling an intention to turn to the left and will move to the left before you overtake it Is stationary for the purpose of allowing a passenger to alight or board the vehicle Is stationary for the purposes of loading or unloading Get yourself a copy of the rules of the road pal;) And a few cycling lessons. Most National schools provide them for kids I think. Join in. :pac:
Casey78 wrote: » Anyway it's good to see Ireland as one of the safest countries in Europe even if one death is too many of course.
Casey78 wrote: » Yes there is a higher percentage of people cycling but I assumed it would also be a safer place to cycle because of all the brilliant cycling infrastructure.
dashcamdanny wrote: » Why are you even arguing with this lot. If you can get in , in front of them without them hitting you, Stick her into the bus stop.. Let them deal with you instead of the other way around. I like to keep a least 10 behind me at all times. They are traffic. Treat them as such. They have brakes. You are perfectly legally allowed to clearly indicate and pull in, as long as you are in front.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » A cyclist isn't overtaking (or undertaking) in the situation you outline. You are overtaking them. Your overtake doesn't mystically end once you pass giving you the sudden right to cut them up. You are required to judge and time your overtake so you don't cause inconvenience to any other road user. That's a matter of law, and it's in the Rules of the Road as well.
Better Than Christ wrote: » They're arguably even worse in this country. This one on Leopardstown Rd in Dublin always strikes me as being particularly unusable.
Casey78 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0701/1150834-road-deaths-eu/ I guess Greece is the place to go if you want to cycle...
AndrewJRenko wrote: » An indicator doesn't 'entitle' you to do anything on the road. It is a signal of intent. It doesn't give you right of way. I'd have hoped that a so-called professional driver would know that.
dashcamdanny wrote: » Hi Andrew, if you would take a moment to submit the details, we can look into this matter further for you, http://bit.ly/1UQnvcO :rolleyes:
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Please take some driving lessons before you get behind the wheel again Danny.
Casey78 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0701/1150834-road-deaths-eu/ I guess Greece is the place to go if you want to cycle, surprised The Netherlands and Denmark are so high for cyclists deaths considering how they are famed for their cycling infrastructure, especially in the Netherlands. Yes there is a higher percentage of people cycling but I assumed it would also be a safer place to cycle because of all the brilliant cycling infrastructure. Anyway it's good to see Ireland as one of the safest countries in Europe even if one death is too many of course.
dashcamdanny wrote: » You are perfectly legally allowed to clearly indicate and pull in, as long as you are in front.
Better Than Christ wrote: » It's irrelevant because I don't do it. Here's what I do when I get stuck behind a bike on a road like the Stillorgan dual carriageway and it's possible to safely overtake - I indicate, fully change lanes when it's safe to do so, and when I've cleared the obstacle, I indicate again and pull back in. Having already completed the overtake (i.e. I am now in front of the bike), I indicate again and pull in at the bus stop further down the road. I accept that it must be very annoying for the cyclist, but it's perfectly legal, just like cycling in a bus lane. The bus lane is no better. Full of potholes and as you can see here, nowhere near wide enough for moving buses. Nope. That driver didn't give enough space while overtaking in the first place, and was already on the brakes before clearing the cyclist. I always make sure I'm well in front before stopping. I've never had any complaints either.
Hurrache wrote: » Ah it is when you're on a bike, the token cycle lane is like a rollercoaster with all the ups and downs. There's always a tweet...https://twitter.com/BicesterBug/status/1278022669754085377
TaurenDruid wrote: » No, I've been told I'm very acute rather than obtuse. Pretty sure I said all parks in Dublin run/managed by DCC, seeing as we were referring to their bye-laws. Pretty sure I also said this wouldn't apply to the Phoenix Park as it's run by the OPW. The signage exists. There are big circles with the number 10 inside the circles, and they're painted wherever there's a picture of a bicycle painted on a cycle track. You can't miss them. Please don't accuse me of being a liar, ok?
TaurenDruid wrote: » I must actually find out how this multiquote thing works at some point. But: Yes, I mean that cycle lane, Andy and magic. I know you may find this hard to believe, Andy, but just because a vehicle is photographed somewhere, it doesn't get frozen in place! There were no lorries, trucks, vans, cars, helicopters, jeeps, roadworks, pathworks or anything else blocking the cycle lane. There were no pedestrians. There were a couple of other cyclists. It did look a little like that guy, as it happens. There are traffic lights at the top, and a cyclist can see them, and can tell when it's safe to enter the road. Which is just before the lights, so if he's going to get hit by left-turning traffic (inbound) that traffic is already taking out any pedestrians at the crossing, and the traffic light, and if it's right-turning traffic (outbound) then they have a filter light. It's not a terrible design, in other words. The one at Lombard Street is - I dunno wtf they were thinking with that. I don't think anyone came back about to my question about how come the lobby/activist groups aren't actively invited to be involved in design decisions. It hopefully isn't that they never got invited back after being so incredibly negative about everything... "You're giving us a segregated cycle lane, separated from the traffic by a wall, but sometimes people might step on it or have to make deliveries? YOU MONSTERS!"
TaurenDruid wrote: » What county is Bicester in?
LeinsterDub wrote: » There's always a car or a bus or a red light coming up. The vast majority of cyclist are aware they aren't in the tour de France.
Better Than Christ wrote: » I would've thought losing momentum and having to start all over again was annoying. That's why, on roads where there is no bus or cycle lane, I tend to stay behind the cyclist, regardless of whether or not there is an opportunity to safely overtake. This road (along with its state-of-the-art cycle lane) on the 145/155 route between Bray and Shankill is a good example of that.
LeinsterDub wrote: » Why would that be annoying? I'm able to share the road.
Better Than Christ wrote: » It's irrelevant because I don't do it. Here's what I do when I get stuck behind a bike on a road like the Stillorgan dual carriageway and it's possible to safely overtake - I indicate, fully change lanes when it's safe to do so, and when I've cleared the obstacle, I indicate again and pull back in. Having already completed the overtake (i.e. I am now in front of the bike), I indicate again and pull in at the bus stop further down the road. I accept that it must be very annoying for the cyclist, but it's perfectly legal, just like cycling in a bus lane.
Better Than Christ wrote: » The bus lane is no better.
LeinsterDub wrote: » I did. Perhaps you reply to what I actually said
Hurrache wrote: It's bad when you refer to the N11 cycle 'lane' as a back up to your argument.
Based on what the poster has been saying, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that was him driving. It's a dick move that fits in exactly what this guy describes.
