johnprofumo wrote: » Hey guys, just wondering about peoples experience with hibernia college, has anybody else ever had any legal issues with hibernia? Or am I the only one?
johnprofumo wrote: » Just wondering if anybody else ever had any similar experiences?
johnprofumo wrote: » I echo a lot of what you say in your post. Particularly administration staff and I am talking about senior administration staff, and also senior academic staff. I deferred my place on the course, when I went to rejoin my place was withdrawn and €9000 kept by Hibernia. After some protracted legal issues I got reinstated in the course. The matter was before the courts on several occasions. Just wondering if anybody else ever had any similar experiences?
joeharte123 wrote: » I haven't heard good things about Hibernia, to be honest. Principals and management seem to be often quite snobby toward those in applications with Hibernia qualifications, even though technically speaking it is the same qualification recognised by the Teaching Council like the well established courses such as Maynooth. However, to avoid any handicaps in getting a job in teaching I would advise against Hibernia in order to give yourself a chance in an already highly saturated market. I find it interesting that Hibernia withdrew your place, as far as I'm aware Hibernia basically has "unlimited" courses as it is online education - this is often part of an argument that they are part to blame for the over saturation of teacher qualifications in this country in the first place!
mtoutlemonde wrote: » That is a very unfair thing to say. There are many hibernia graduates who are excellent teachers and there are many terrible teachers that went to the NUIs. In the past when hibernia was launched, there probably was some snobbery but that no longer exists. I went to an NUI and the only way to describe it was chaos. Assignments being assigned late, lecturers not delivering, people in the education department not speaking to each other etc. I havn't heard anything like that from teachers I've worked with who studied with Hibernia except for the anti-hibernia teachers here and they are few and far between. The only way someone can give a true comparison of teacher education courses in Ireland, is to do both otherwise you talking through your hat. Likewise for management.
joeharte123 wrote: » I agree, it is unfair. But you admitted it there is an element of "anti-hibernia". I've said in my previous post that all qualifications are recognised by the TC to allow someone register as a PP teacher, thus shouldn't be treated differently. But, there have be instances whereby applications were snubbed because of the institution of the teacher training. Not saying this bias happens everywhere, but it does happen.
sullivlo wrote: » None of my fellow Hibernia graduates have struggled to find jobs. Well, none of the ones I am in contact with. I think some of the niche subjects where there are very few posts advertised have struggled to get hours in their subject, like music, or where subjects are over subscribed, like English or geography. So I think you're probably talking out of your arse.
mtoutlemonde wrote: » I said it happened in the past. Hibernia and the other teaching courses are equal now. Interview boards would have to have a better reason to not give someone a job based on their teacher education diploma.
sullivlo wrote: » The only serious anti Hibernia sentiment I have seen is students trying to get placement schools. Normally PMEs require 8/10 classes a week for a year, but Hibernia require nearly double that for a short block of time, at odd times throughout the year. Teachers are hesitant to let classes go to a PME for 6 weeks. It's one thing if they have them for the full year but 6 weeks is nothing.
joeharte123 wrote: » They were always equal. But some interview panels still look down on Hibernia graduates, which is wrong. I can only speak for Secondary here, not primary.
joeharte123 wrote: » Students must find their own placements with Hibernia?
joeharte123 wrote: » Music is particularly bad with many wasting thousands of euro qualifying in the single subject leading to them being unemployed, with the best they can hope for is casual subbing in numerous different schools along with no permanency or job security.
pollymv1 wrote: » I agree. I've personal experience of Hibernia. At the end of the day it is run as a business as opposed to an academic institution. The staff aren't treated well at all. It feels like you are in sales just churning through fee payers. Doesn't rate with real universities.
I have level 8 degree but it is only a pass grade, Have I any chance at all of getting accepted into Hibernia for primary school teaching?
Honestly the "pass degree" thing is a grey area. Some say a Third Class Honours is a pass, others say a "pass degree" is the same as any other degree, and you either failed the course or you didn't.
Be careful with Colleges and PMEs though. , Some will be happy to let you in but you still have to get passed the Teaching Council afterwards.
Start by contacting the college anyway. In fact contact all colleges and see if you get anything back.
On the above note about the grades. Ive only a C3 in Irish English and maths (ordinary) I know I'll have to repeat my Irish and that's fine but what about the c3s? I know they require a C2. I have a level 8 honours degree and I'm a fully qualified accountant looking to change career. Is there any chance of not having to repeat my English and maths to get into any of the colleges to do the primary PME?
Hard to understand your message Jackie. Do you mean you have C3 in Higher Irish, C3 in Higher English, and C3 in Ordinary level Maths? By the looks of it your English is fine, if it's Higher. I'm not sure if the Ordinary in brackets is in relation to the English as well. As far as I know there's no way around it, you'd have to repeat if you don't have the requirements.
