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any interest in having a factory beef price tracker on here?

got 4 hiefers to go, 3rs and 1o

got the following quotes for base price on Mon 23 Jan

4.10e/kg aibp bandon
4.15e/kg aibp cahir

quotes including bord bia
am holding tough as hoping for 4.25e/kg

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Albert Johnson

valtra2 wrote: »

Hi could anyone give me a estimate of the price of a 1000kg bull 9 year old limousine and in good condition. Tia

If he's a fairly tight gutted fleshy bull I'd be expecting €1400-1500 going by the mart trade locally. There was a 14 year old gutty type CH store bull 900kg made €1220 in the mart last week and he'd need more feeding. If your lad is near fit to kill I'd show him in the mart as there seems to be more appetite in the live trade for fleshy cow's and bulls then the factory quotes would suggest.

CloughCasey1

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057410840/316

I put up a photo of this buck on mart price tracker last month
28mts 7 days O- 4- 445kg DW

Bass Reeves

Duke92 wrote: »

Yes it’s supply and demand
Milk the same there nearly all around a 1/2 a cent difference in price
Grain the same never much more than a few euro difference in price
That is life

Just another follow up below are the milk prices announced for May. Difference between the highest price milk processor and the lowest is nearly 4c/L. That equivalent to 12.5% or about 45c/kg for prime beef. The difference between the lowest major processor's (Glanbia also the lowest overall) and the highest major processor (Kerry so both MN) is nearly 2c/L or over 20c/ L.

When was the last time there was more than a 5c/ kg difference in major processor prices. When did they ever quote out of line for even a specific type of cattle such as AA or heifers. The highest priced milk processor is a small niche processor there is nothing similar in beef

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-price-tracker-2020-find-out-what-each-co-op-payed-its-suppliers-for-mays-milk/

Neddyusa

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Just another follow up below are the milk prices announced for May. Difference between the highest price milk processor and the lowest is nearly 4c/L. That equivalent to 12.5% or about 45c/kg for prime beef. The difference between the lowest major processor's (Glanbia also the lowest overall) and the highest major processor (Kerry so both MN) is nearly 2c/L or over 20c/ L.

When was the last time there was more than a 5c/ kg difference in major processor prices. When did they ever quote out of line for even a specific type of cattle such as AA or heifers. The highest priced milk processor is a small niche processor there is nothing similar in beef

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-price-tracker-2020-find-out-what-each-co-op-payed-its-suppliers-for-mays-milk/

Agreed but you're comparing apples and oranges (or beef and milk)!

One needs a contract with a processor and with a short shelf life can't be hauled to the other side of the country for a few cent.

If you were comparing with grain it would be a (slightly) better comparison.

memorystick

Are they up or down? Scarce?

Duke92

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Just another follow up below are the milk prices announced for May. Difference between the highest price milk processor and the lowest is nearly 4c/L. That equivalent to 12.5% or about 45c/kg for prime beef. The difference between the lowest major processor's (Glanbia also the lowest overall) and the highest major processor (Kerry so both MN) is nearly 2c/L or over 20c/ L.

When was the last time there was more than a 5c/ kg difference in major processor prices. When did they ever quote out of line for even a specific type of cattle such as AA or heifers. The highest priced milk processor is a small niche processor there is nothing similar in beef

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/milk-price-tracker-2020-find-out-what-each-co-op-payed-its-suppliers-for-mays-milk/

Not like with like some have liquid milk contracts. different coops pay share holders in different why’s so pay more on milk some give discounts on feed and fert some pay a top up
Some pay for milk being collected some don’t there’s not a cent in different when worked out and you can’t load up your lorry of milk and go to west cork from Wexford
All profits from coops are ment to go back to the farmers

Anyway I wouldn’t begrudge the hard working dairy farmers

Gman1987

memorystick wrote: »

Are they up or down? Scarce?

Killed heifers this week @ €3.60/kg base in the Midlands, being told they are same for next week

Cavanjack

Gman1987 wrote: »

Killed heifers this week @ €3.60/kg base in the Midlands, being told they are same for next week

Getting 3.60 for a load of bullocks Monday too.
Heifers have been 10cent more than bullocks for the last number of years. Why are they back to the same as bullocks now or is it that bullocks have increased 10 cent to match heifers?

Water John

Milk is more mobile than you think. Strathroy move milk all over the place. Arrabawn collect from Cork to Mayo.

Duke92

Water John wrote: »

Milk is more mobile than you think. Strathroy move milk all over the place. Arrabawn collect from Cork to Mayo.

I don’t think to many would want to be going there if they had more choice 2 of the worst payers for milk

Bass Reeves

Duke92 wrote: »

Not like with like some have liquid milk contracts. different coops pay share holders in different why’s so pay more on milk some give discounts on feed and fert some pay a top up
Some pay for milk being collected some don’t there’s not a cent in different when worked out and you can’t load up your lorry of milk and go to west cork from Wexford
All profits from coops are ment to go back to the farmers

Anyway I wouldn’t begrudge the hard working dairy farmers

First of all not all processor's are co-ops. Two of the three biggest are MN. The difference between them are 2c/L or over 30c/kg in beef terms. Now Glanbia run a bonus scheme based on purchases. Just to put reality on it 20 euro a ton on rations for a farmer feeding 700 kgs/ cow to animals doing 6kL is less than a quarter of a cent in milk prices so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul. The real rub the is at present Kerry are paying a bonus to match the best milk price in the country. The bonus that the higher paying West Cork co-ops pay is considered part of the price for Kerry to match. The 2c/L difference between them will more than likely stretch out as the bonuses come into play. Along with that Kerry are allowing you to buy you inputs at the cheapest source.

Over the last few weeks British and EU beef prices have climbed.yet no Irish processor's has broken ranks

cute geoge

Bass Reeves wrote: »

First of all not all processor's are co-ops. Two of the three biggest are MN. The difference between them are 2c/L or over 30c/kg in beef terms. Now Glanbia run a bonus scheme based on purchases. Just to put reality on it 20 euro a ton on rations for a farmer feeding 700 kgs/ cow to animals doing 6kL is less than a quarter of a cent in milk prices so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul. The real rub the is at present Kerry are paying a bonus to match the best milk price in the country. The bonus that the higher paying West Cork co-ops pay is considered part of the price for Kerry to match. The 2c/L difference between them will more than likely stretch out as the bonuses come into play. Along with that Kerry are allowing you to buy you inputs at the cheapest source.

Over the last few weeks British and EU beef prices have climbed.yet no Irish processor's has broken ranks

Do not be derailing this Beef price tracker with Bull shlt about Milk price .In fact Kerry farmer have had to fight tooth and nail to get leading milk price and it still not concluded with it finishing up in court maybe!!

Gman1987

Jjameson wrote: »

well it depends on if your a glass half empty or glass half full typ person or have bullocks or heifers to sell!

Sure no doubt I'm been told that bullocks and heifers are the same now at €3.60/kg, no premium being paid on heifers.... Anyone else killing heifers receiving a higher quote? Cattle appear to be killing out well this year. Up about 34kg deadweight each and killed 2 months earlier, AA/HE all grass diet.

Bass Reeves

cute geoge wrote: »

Do not be derailing this Beef price tracker with Bull shlt about Milk price .In fact Kerry farmer have had to fight tooth and nail to get leading milk price and it still not concluded with it finishing up in court maybe!!

I afraid some lads do not like the truth. Anyway very little to track at present. They are all on 3.6/kg for steers and heifers for ordinary Joe soaps. Unless they come under external pressure they will not be raising there quotes. Of course we will hear all the BS about increased kill but this is as much factory demand as cattle being fit. They are taking everything they can get

Dickie10

why would all the milk processors not come together in secret and agree to cut milk by say 10-15 cent a litre? would it not be in all their intrests? and very little dairy farmers could do about it. surely the milk processors see the way farmers are powerless when beef factories do this and follow suit. Now that quotas are gone the milk supply is there.

charolais0153

Dickie10 wrote: »

why would all the milk processors not come together in secret and agree to cut milk by say 10-15 cent a litre? would it not be in all their intrests? and very little dairy farmers could do about it. surely the milk processors see the way farmers are powerless when beef factories do this and follow suit. Now that quotas are gone the milk supply is there.

Bit if a differnce between private companies vs cooperatives

Gman1987

Dickie10 wrote: »

why would all the milk processors not come together in secret and agree to cut milk by say 10-15 cent a litre? would it not be in all their intrests? and very little dairy farmers could do about it. surely the milk processors see the way farmers are powerless when beef factories do this and follow suit. Now that quotas are gone the milk supply is there.

Cooperative so farmer owned so they all want to pay the best price. Ornua sell a good bit of the dairy products on behalf of the cooperatives, they publish there own "Purchase price index" which shows what they are paying for the product, this can be converted to a cent per litre return to the farmer. If the Ornua PPI is higher than what a coop is paying then their is questions to be asked. The dairy industry is a long way ahead of the beef industry but their is still huge inefficiencies there such as coops competing against each other and Ornua when it comes to selling the goods, the only one to take the hit from this racket is the farmer.

kk.man

Dickie10 wrote: »

why would all the milk processors not come together in secret and agree to cut milk by say 10-15 cent a litre? would it not be in all their intrests? and very little dairy farmers could do about it. surely the milk processors see the way farmers are powerless when beef factories do this and follow suit. Now that quotas are gone the milk supply is there.

They could however the coop structure prevents it happening. It has and did happen in the uk as they have private companies.
The Irish processors have farmer shareholders to answer to.

dryan

Half a load (steers) gone this morning @3.60 base - Midlands

Dunedin

dryan wrote: »

Half a load (steers) gone this morning @3.60 base - Midlands

Any mention of weight restrictions or haulage paid?

dryan

Dunedin wrote: »

Any mention of weight restrictions or haulage paid?

No Haulage unfortunately.
Mix of Angus and limos.
Bonus will be paid on Angus under 380kg only.

430kg weight restriction applied also.

memorystick

Is 3.50 flat a good price for O and P bullocks?

epfff

memorystick wrote: »

Is 3.50 flat a good price for O and P bullocks?

If there was more Ps than good Os yes

memorystick

That’s what I was thinking. Well fed but poor confirmation cattle.

Good loser

epfff wrote: »

If there was more Ps than good Os yes

It's good anyway.
O- are 348c at base 360c. That is u/a and FS3.

jntsnk

Had a call from the factory with the fella I deal with. Looking for cattle obviously. Now that hasn’t happened in a very long time. Prices are unjustifiably low. Holding on for the increase

jntsnk

Jjameson wrote: »

If you have the grass, suitable cattle that are still putting up the Kgs and the QA isn’t important in terms of age left or plain cattle that don’t benefit from trying to hit the mark then it’s worth a gamble. Numbers off grass seem to be a month ahead as far as I can see around here.
There may be a little bounce the right way. But they aren’t going to pull them to ****e like last year unless they have a death wish.

Yes, I agree, sent off 30 start of last month,off grass never before that happened with me. Growth has been fantastic with animal and weather this year.

epfff

Good loser wrote: »

It's good anyway.
O- are 348c at base 360c. That is u/a and FS3.

What about the good Os?

Bass Reeves

epfff wrote: »

What about the good Os?

O= are 3.62,
O+are 3.68

Dickie10

I had had two heifers in Carnaross yesterday, one of which was well over age she was sick last year and thought she would pine away, but i turned her around after a few months with a mix of rumen fluke dose, minerals dose , copper bolus and wormer along with 30 mls of Jeyes Fluid and all manner of old wives tales so i imagined i would be cut to cow price in factory shes jan 17 born, big white charrollais, gave her a lick of meal the last 2 weeks and she looked good weighed in at 580kg, well fleshed but needs meal for a month to get into 2+ fat. she only made €1090. the other heeifer i sent was just a sample to see the market price, 530kg €1080. yellow charrollais already fat to kill.