LLMMLL wrote: » Why is it inconvenient that you're a woman? Isn't it generally accepted that TERFs tend to be women?
Bannasidhe wrote: » Since 2008 3314 transgender people were murdered for being transgender. Often in the most horrific brutal way.
Quantum Erasure wrote: » Just google 3314 transgender
Gruffalox wrote: » No. It is becoming more generally accepted that bullies level slurs and names like TERFs at women when they will not shut up and do as they are told.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » I’m probably one of the loudest voices on these recent threads. Inconveniently female, inconveniently vocal about women’s rights. Do you think I’m transphobic? At least I consistently care about women’s hard-won SEX-based rights and don’t want to give them away because of naivety and woolly logic.
Norf FC wrote: » Why the need for a silly label for those who disagree with you?
LLMMLL wrote: » I don't think that's generally accepted at all
Sittingpretty wrote: » When someone exits a debate in a cloud of “you’re all TERFS and Transphobic” they’ve already lost the debate.
Gruffalox wrote: » https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERF#Slur_debate Die Cis Scum and Kill All TERFs really ruined that word for ya. You will have to come up with another. Remember now that transphobe was defined recently by a compadre of yours as "often very violent people who enjoy beating and murdering". So careful with that one too - it is becoming a tad nasty for good people to be hurling about.
LLMMLL wrote: » I don't think claiming that you have some all seeing knowledge that two sex pests from your village in the 70s would use self id to continue their sex pesting in the modern era is really what anyone would call debate.
Sittingpretty wrote: » Neither is labelling level headed respondents to this thread as TERFS and transphobic. It’s hysterical and the equivalent of taking your ball home because your friends won’t let you play in goal.
LLMMLL wrote: » Well I'll have to tell all the people who call themselves gay that if someone says "die gay scum" Or "kill all gays" they can't use the word gay anymore in any context. Or maybe not.....
suicide_circus wrote: » where is this? not questioning it just want to get the facts straight
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Here’s a thought - maybe don’t call people TERFs?
Bannasidhe wrote: » https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiewareham/2019/11/18/murdered-hanged-and-lynched-331-trans-people-killed-this-year/#2f84a1d12d48 Google Transgender deaths and there are 15,900,000 results. These are just from the first page.https://www.insider.com/chicago-teen-killed-woman-after-she-told-him-she-was-transgender-police-2020-6https://time.com/5853325/black-trans-women-killed-riah-milton-dominique-remmie-fells-trump/https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2019https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/18/us/transgender-killings-hrc-report-trnd/index.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_killed_for_being_transgender
LLMMLL wrote: » I don't see any issue with calling someone a TERF. If you share all your opinions with the group of people called TERFs who are completely defined by the opinions they hold then you are a TERF. All these anti trans beliefs are based on trans phobia.
Bannasidhe wrote: » Yes. I do think you are transphobic. What I hear from you are all the same 'concerns' people used to voice about lesbians in women's changing rooms. I grew up hearing that crap. How we would be sexual predators. I stopped sharing changing rooms in the early 2000s and we were still hearing it then. At a rugby tournament I played in in 1998 an English women's team was asked to leave due to the abuse they gave any player who was obviously gay. Ironically they were asked to leave after they complained they 'didn't feel safe' in the showers. And the people who said those things were homophobic.
Gruffalox wrote: » Im trying to come up with a new word. Gencritphobes? Terphobes? Something snappy. I want in on the slur game. I want to be able to just say xxxxxphobe and thats my whole argument. I feel left out
Bannasidhe wrote: » https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiewareham/2019/11/18/murdered-hanged-and-lynched-331-trans-people-killed-this-year/#2f84a1d12d48 Google Transgender deaths and there are 15,900,000 results.
LLMMLL wrote: » I love terphobe. Thanks. Feel free to refer to me.as a terphobe anytime.
Bannasidhe wrote: » I too find you extremely contradictory.Your views are those of a TERF but you are not a feminist. .
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » I’m still amused at the person upthread who said to you (paraphrasing) “How can I call you a TERF if you’re not a feminist?”. Like as if they have no choice but to use the term TERF. Here’s a thought - maybe don’t call people TERFs?
Gruffalox wrote: » Ah you, you I shall call the Mas-terphobe. You really know how to tell the bold ladies how to pipe down.
suicide_circus wrote: » Now now Professor, me thinks you maybe trying some roguish slight of hand there with your "15,900,000 results" as if that equates to deaths. I'm perfectly prepared to go along with your earlier figure of 3,314 over 11 years accross 74 countries.
Gatling wrote: » I'd love to see the police investigations that state 3k + people were murdered for being trans , Rather than some website project pushing for trans rememberance day .
Martin Saberi denies the murder of Amy Griffiths between January 11 and January 14 last year. Ms Griffiths, who was 51, was discovered dead at her flat in Chalverton Court, Droitwich, on January 14. Police said she had suffered head and throat injuries. The trial is due to start at Worcester Crown Court on Monday, May 18.
