smurfjed wrote: » I’m west of you, we can leave on repatriation flights but there is no way back, with the present daily rates there is no sign of international flights opening in the near future. Hope its a cool summer
smurfjed wrote: » If Ryanair are restarting “much of its network” on July 01st, it is obviously expecting the traffic to be there, so why are these requested cuts necessary ?
Blut2 wrote: » We have a completely open land border to the UK, the country with Europe's worst infection rate currently. Tens of thousands of people cross back and forth every day, with no checks or tests of any sort. Given that corona was always going get back in, even if we kept or keep the airport completely closed. It not getting back in was never an option.
Jude13 wrote: » Fingers crossed. We are thinking of jumping on a plane home on the 10th, however we have red tape this end to get approvals to fly/return.
Jude13 wrote: » Emirates opening up from 07 July. I have a few pals flying with them back to Dublin on 01 July and 04 July so lets see if they actually get home. Once home I believe its 14 days quarantine.
DUBLIN: Ryanair has threatened to close two regional bases and axe up to 120 pilot jobs unless pilots in its home Irish market bypass their union and directly accept a pay cut, a memo said. Europe’s largest low-cost carrier is demanding pay cuts of up to 20 percent and changes to work practices across Europe. It has said it plans 3,000 job cuts and a reduction in staff unit costs, but faces union resistance in a number of markets. In the memo sent on Friday, Ryanair director of operations Neal McMahon told pilots the union council representing Irish pilots had walked away from talks on Wednesday, something the Forsa trade union denied. McMahon said a union request for an extension of a 30-day consultation on job cuts represented “stalling tactics.” Instead, the memo sent on the company’s internal messaging system, asked pilots to click a button to accept proposals including a 20 percent pay cut that would be reversed gradually within four years, a spreading of available work via job shares and unpaid leave, and “productivity improvements.” It said the number of job losses, and whether bases at Cork and Shannon airports remained open would depend on the number of acceptances. A Ryanair spokeswoman said she had “nothing further to add to that memo.” Trade union Forsa, in a memo to pilots on Friday, said Ryanair’s latest proposal was unacceptable as it would effectively leave pilots temporarily on zero-hour contracts and provided no guarantee job losses would be avoided. Forsa said it had requested third-party mediation, but had not received a reply. Ryanair, which is reopening much of its network on July 1, says it needs to cut staff costs to compete with rivals that have received state bailouts. Union representatives have pointed to management comments about expansion opportunities likely to be triggered by the retrenchment of rivals in the wake of COVID-19.
Nijmegen wrote: » Well, that’s how it got in. Then we locked down and nobody was moving really and now that people are flying again, it’s ticking back up as a proportion. If we get the rate of transmission below 1 domestically, a quick way to explode it is to import cases. I guess it’s interesting that the members of the health team are talking about this repeatedly, in unison, and in alarmist tones.
Van.Bosch wrote: » Am I reading it right that travel as a % of cases was actually higher at the start of the graph? So why are they more concerned now?
Nijmegen wrote: » And remember in their advice what they’re saying is not just that Johnny Foreigner will bring it in, rather we might go out and traipse it back again.
Nijmegen wrote: » NPHET members all singing from the same hymn sheet about travel. Seems it’s ticking up as a cause of transmission again. The experience we’re seeing in other countries with the spread expanding till further lockdowns are required (the US is an egregious example, but S Korea and China are examples of it happening in places that are taking it seriously) is concerning. Also concerning seeing the lack of face mask etc discipline if you go out and about these days, in shopping centres etc. It’s all pretty grim for the medium term prospects of the aviation industry, especially if corporate travel is dead given its role in many airlines’ profitability mix.https://twitter.com/president_mu/status/1277206296106844166?s=21
HTCOne wrote: » What would be really useful to know is where exactly these imported cases are coming from. If it is the UK or movement of EU citizens living / working in US or vice versa, then that’s why the air bridges excluding these countries that are being discussed are ok. If it is all the EU countries we want to open up to, then that’s a different matter.
x567 wrote: » LIAT going under by the look of it...http://guyanachronicle.com/2020/06/27/liat-to-be-liquidated-new-airline-to-be-formed
Inquitus wrote: » I think you'll be surprised how few people are actually willing to fly when push comes to shove. I'll be taking the family on a staycation this year. I travel extensively for work and I cannot see any of our corporate travel returning this year.
Tenger wrote: » I would 100% agree regarding corporate travel (which accounts for the major chunk of airline yield) But I can see a decent amount of leisure travel to Sun destinations in July/August.
trellheim wrote: » True enough although nobody is forcing the airlines to set a maximum price for the seats either, so... swings and roundabouts. I am being extremely cynical here but I would see it as the role for Govt to set the social distancing here; DAA and airlines banging on about masks is only one part of it. ( and social distancing in the terminal but not in the plane... come off it )
Comparing the operating costs of an airliner against Dublin Bus is somewhat laughable. Who do you want to pick up the tab for implementing such distancing? Not one flight will generate income and proportionality Government's will pick up the tab when these businesses fail. The crew for example through virtue of seating arrangements and accessibility on aircraft cannot socially distance. If you don't feel safe flying don't, nobody is forcing you too.
