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The Irish Pub is finished.

Jimmy Garlic

I know a town where only one out of four is planning to reopen, one already has a for sale sign up. Same story all over the country. Tourist traps will be the only places where there won’t be mass casualties. Only 50% planning to reopen on the 29th. That’s a lot of jobs permanently removed from the economy by bat flu hysteria.

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Jayesdiem

dominatinMC wrote: »

Agree 100%. I've no problem in saying I'm a big fan of the pub, but not in the current, proposed guise. All these rules and regulations, whilst necessary for the moment, undermine the ethos of the pub. Whilst I go to the pub to meet my friends, work colleagues, family, etc., I'm also going for the unknown - the spontaneity of a night out, meeting strangers, old friends, acquaintances, etc. This cannot be replicated at home drinking a few cans, or having a BBQ. It also cannot really be facilitated with the current restrictions. The sooner a vaccine becomes available, the better!

Agreed. I won’t be in the pubs because of the joyless, clinical nature of the restrictions. It just saddens me at what we’ve become. On the vaccine though, I wouldn’t count on it. We need to live with the virus as we do with all others. There is no other way.

Coillte_Bhoy

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Something similar on an odd Friday night to meet lads to get info and a bit of craic about local gaa banter. On Saturday nights four of us always went to the pub in two different villages on alternate weekend with 3 and 5 pubs and would always be something on in one of the pubs and always someone to see or meet. In the last two years the pubs have slowed down with less people out and very few to meet and have craic. If you want to see someone about work it’s done by phone. The same for arranging to go shooting, the gaa has killed the pint after matches craic with bringing teams out of their area to play matches and charging larger fee into matches. Never really drank at home till Covid, can get 20 bottles for 17 euro in Lidl and don’t have to look at smart arse bar men.

What??

GoneHome

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Something similar on an odd Friday night to meet lads to get info and a bit of craic about local gaa banter. On Saturday nights four of us always went to the pub in two different villages on alternate weekend with 3 and 5 pubs and would always be something on in one of the pubs and always someone to see or meet. In the last two years the pubs have slowed down with less people out and very few to meet and have craic. If you want to see someone about work it’s done by phone. The same for arranging to go shooting, the gaa has killed the pint after matches craic with bringing teams out of their area to play matches and charging larger fee into matches. Never really drank at home till Covid, can get 20 bottles for 17 euro in Lidl and don’t have to look at smart arse bar men.

Well said Sheep, that sounds very like my local area here in Co Limerick, what part of the country are you in ?

Sheep breeder

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Something similar on an odd Friday night to meet lads to get info and a bit of craic about local gaa banter. On Saturday nights four of us always went to the pub in two different villages on alternate weekend with 3 and 5 pubs and would always be something on in one of the pubs and always someone to see or meet. In the last two years the pubs have slowed down with less people out and very few to meet and have craic. If you want to see someone about work it’s done by phone. The same for arranging to go shooting, the gaa has killed the pint after matches craic with bringing teams out of their area to play matches and charging larger fee into matches. Never really drank at home till Covid, can get 20 bottles for 17 euro in Lidl and don’t have to look at smart arse bar men.

Leg End Reject

I can't wait for pubs to return to something resembling normal, the only thing stopping me is the time limit, you'd only be settled and have to leave again.

I'd happily pay €9 and push the food around the plate if I could stay for 4-5 hours, I even love the idea of table service.

[Deleted User]

L'prof wrote: »

Quick lads, I’ll meet ye all down Patsy’s

If you get me banned from my favourite pub, I will... *googles how to delete someone else's post*

L'prof

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I don't want to incriminate anyone, but a pub that I'm very fond of has been doing a fairly steady trade throughout the pandemic -- this is one of those bars that is even buzzing on a Christmas day, you have to go around the yard and knock on the back door

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

The next time I go into Patsy's bar in Borrisokane, I don't want to just sit in the corner, 2 meters from my friends, and chat for an allotted timetable.
I want to sing "Come Out Ye Black And Tans" with people I haven't seen since the Leaving Cert

Quick lads, I’ll meet ye all down Patsy’s

[Deleted User]

dominatinMC wrote: »

the spontaneity of a night out, meeting strangers, old friends, acquaintances, etc. This cannot be replicated at home drinking a few cans, or having a BBQ.

Exactly this. The next time I go into Patsy's bar in Borrisokane, I don't want to just sit in the corner, 2 meters from my friends, and chat for an allotted timetable.
I want to sing "Come Out Ye Black And Tans" with people I haven't seen since the Leaving Cert. This spontaneity is the whole reason for the rural pub. As a People, we do not want to dwell for hours on cups of coffee.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

GoneHome

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Very similar scenario here, all these rules and regulations would negate the enjoyment aspect of going to the local pub for me, we'll see how it pans out but can't see myself rushing back as things stand, and I agree these rules and regulations are absolutely necessary for the safety of public health.

[Deleted User]

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Absolutely could not be arsed with all of that. Why not just invite people around and do a barbecue?

I think there is still a big appetite for the pub, though.I don't want to incriminate anyone, but a pub that I'm very fond of has been doing a fairly steady trade throughout the pandemic -- this is one of those bars that is even buzzing on a Christmas day, you have to go around the yard and knock on the back door. People love their pubs.

You have to bear in mind that inviting people over isn't an option for everyone for a myriad of reasons.

Personally I'm living at home so I cant be inviting friends over here, ditto for my friend I usually meet on Friday.

Then others may have a wife and kids at home or some other awkward situation.

dominatinMC

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Agree 100%. I've no problem in saying I'm a big fan of the pub, but not in the current, proposed guise. All these rules and regulations, whilst necessary for the moment, undermine the ethos of the pub. Whilst I go to the pub to meet my friends, work colleagues, family, etc., I'm also going for the unknown - the spontaneity of a night out, meeting strangers, old friends, acquaintances, etc. This cannot be replicated at home drinking a few cans, or having a BBQ. It also cannot really be facilitated with the current restrictions. The sooner a vaccine becomes available, the better!

JupiterKid

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

There’s always the sanctimonious ex-something everywhere, but just because you had a problem with it you have absolutely no authority to say if someone else can handle it.

Erm...where did I say I had a problem with people going to the pub and drinking? I know that drinking is no longer for me and for those who also crossed the line into alcohol dependency, but most people can drink normally and who I am to judge them or tell them that they should stop drinking?

The pub is an important social outlet for many, but that number has been in decline over the past 15 to 20 years as lifestyles change. The number of pubs is in decline. This is not my opinion - it is a fact. Also I think the challenges and logistics of just how pubs are going to operate with social distancing protocols will certainly not be without its problems.

But I suppose that because I had serious issues with alcohol I am not allowed to comment on this thread in any shape or form? Oh right...and here was little me thinking we lived in a free country. :rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Absolutely could not be arsed with all of that. Why not just invite people around and do a barbecue?

I think there is still a big appetite for the pub, though.I don't want to incriminate anyone, but a pub that I'm very fond of has been doing a fairly steady trade throughout the pandemic -- this is one of those bars that is even buzzing on a Christmas day, you have to go around the yard and knock on the back door. People love their pubs.

[Deleted User]

JupiterKid wrote: »

I would imagine - as a recovering alcoholic myself - that the need to get drink at any cost - means most of the all-day pub lads - the barfly types - will be drinking from home or for the social aspect, at another alcohol dependant’s gaff. I’ve no doubt that they’re doing this already. If they have families - wives and children - I imagine being at home rather that in the pub every evening and all day at the weekends must be causing ructions for quite a few.

Some may well decide that it’s not worth the hassle going back to the pub with all the social distancing restrictions, which would I imagine be pretty hard to stick to once you’ve had about 7 or 8 pints down your gullet.

There’s always the sanctimonious ex-something everywhere, but just because you had a problem with it you have absolutely no authority to say if someone else can handle it.

HBC08

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Those rules are only for the 3 weeks til 20th July.
I'm not sure what the pubs will look like when they do open though,it'll be different alright.
I've booked a slot on thurs in a local restaraunt/pub.They sent an email with all the restrictions for customers,im interested to see what itll be like.
I'm also booked for a haircut on sat,already been told theyre not allowed trim the beard,again im interested to see how it goes.

JupiterKid

ShatterAlan wrote: »

You think an alcoholic is going to magically take up windsurfing or needlepoint because his local shuts down?

I would imagine - as a recovering alcoholic myself - that the need to get drink at any cost - means most of the all-day pub lads - the barfly types - will be drinking from home or for the social aspect, at another alcohol dependant’s gaff. I’ve no doubt that they’re doing this already. If they have families - wives and children - I imagine being at home rather that in the pub every evening and all day at the weekends must be causing ructions for quite a few.

Some may well decide that it’s not worth the hassle going back to the pub with all the social distancing restrictions, which would I imagine be pretty hard to stick to once you’ve had about 7 or 8 pints down your gullet.

The One Doctor

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I know a town where only one out of four is planning to reopen, one already has a for sale sign up. Same story all over the country. Tourist traps will be the only places where there won’t be mass casualties. Only 50% planning to reopen on the 29th. That’s a lot of jobs permanently removed from the economy by bat flu hysteria.

Pardon my ignorance, but why is this a bad thing? A lot of damage has been done to society and plenty of money has been pissed down the drain. It's time for men to stop relying on pubs for a social life, make friends and get back to their families.

Strumms

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Why do we go to pubs ? To relax, socialize, have an enjoyable time...

In what’s being proposed it’s going to be impossible to relax, impossible to socialize ‘properly’ and have an enjoyable time ? I think customers and staff will be on edge.

It doesn’t sound much like fun to me.

jackboy

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

For years the Irish mocked the continental version, the cafe bar. Places like that are no craic, was said, who would want to go to those places. This new version of the Irish pub is far, far worse than those cafe bars. At least they could chill out with a couple of drinks.

El_Duderino 09

How mane people here would bother with the pub under the booking, distancing rules and needing to buy a meal, and a 90 or 120 min time limit? I know I wouldn't. I might go once for novelty value but I probably won't go until the new rules aren't necessary anymore.

I liked the pub for a "couple of beers" after work on a Friday and end up staying for hours when the craic is good. Or going to watch a match with the lads in a packed pub.

The new rules don't allow for any of the reasons I used to like the pub. I won't be bothering with it.

Rodney Bathgate

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Your wife sounds like a lucky gal.

No need for personal insults

cannotlogin

I don't think the Irish pub is finished at all in Ireland but do think only the stronger pubs will survive the days of a call country town having 10 pubs are over, not sustainable and never really were anyway.

There are about 7,000 pubs in Ireland now, a reduction of 1,500 since 2005. It's probably fair to say we will lose another 1,500 in the coming years but it won't die out.

Some people won't return to the pub for financial or health reasons, they might have ditched the drink during the covid crisis or decided they prefer to drink at home but anyone living alone cannot wait to be back in the pub, mixing with people again, especially single people.

[Deleted User]

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how old you are?

I’m mid 30’s.

RocketRaccoon

Marshall Large Chihuahua wrote: »

Two solid days on the beer would be an occasional event rather than regular (unfortunately).

Do you mind me asking how old you are?

[Deleted User]

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

They should've stopped off sales during Covid as well.

God knows some people could cut down. Myself included.

That would have been madness, beer is about the only thing that kept a lot of people sane of the last few months.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Bit of a difference between a quiet Wednesday evening and regular 2 day weekend benders though.

Two solid days on the beer would be an occasional event rather than regular (unfortunately).

[Deleted User]

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Bit of a difference between a quiet Wednesday evening and regular 2 day weekend benders though.

Two solid days on the beer would be an occasional event rather than regular (unfortunately).

pgj2015

ShyMets wrote: »

It comes back to the guidelines. If they are similar to what is already there, I can see a lot of people not bothering with them

I can see it being mayhem to be honest, look at the way arthurs day was or st. stephen's night after the pubs being closed for 1 day. the young crowd will go crazy I think. the publicans cant control people once they get out on the streets.

RocketRaccoon

Deleted User wrote: »

Let he without sin cast the boulder. If my girlfriend wants to have a night out with the ladies, I'm not exactly going to stand in the way. Nor will she if I frequent the local for a few jars of a Wednesday evening. Respect is a two way street.

Bit of a difference between a quiet Wednesday evening and regular 2 day weekend benders though.

[Deleted User]

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Your wife sounds like a lucky gal.

Let he without sin cast the boulder. If my girlfriend wants to have a night out with the ladies, I'm not exactly going to stand in the way. Nor will she if I frequent the local for a few jars of a Wednesday evening. Respect is a two way street.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

They should've stopped off sales during Covid as well.

God knows some people could cut down. Myself included.