HTCOne wrote: » In recent years I seem to recall reading Qantas international was loss making,, domestic and Trans Tasman was all the profit.
trellheim wrote: » If you get on Dublin Bus a doubledecker will only take 17 passengers. Yet EI and FR will not social distance.
HTCOne wrote: » Because they’d lose tens of thousands on every single flight. CIE’s losses will be swallowed by the taxpayer as usual, Ryanair and Aer Lingus are private companies who don't have that guarantee. I don’t think enough emphasis is being put on the fact we might never have a vaccine. In 40 odd years, we haven’t managed to come up with an HIV vaccine. The flu vaccine tends to only be ballpark 70% effective. We are going to have to go back to normal, or as near normal as possible at some point. Cillian De Gascun says 50% of people testing positive in Ireland are asymptomatic, they’re only being caught because a close contact tested positive and the asymptomatic people got tested as a result. Now if you catch it in the community and have no symptoms, you won’t be tested, you won’t know you have or had it, or likewise if you have a bit of a sniffle, or an ache, or fatigue. So if we say .3% of folks in their 30s die, it’s actually a tiny fraction of that, because only a fraction of those who get COVID are likely even aware they have it.
Blut2 wrote: » The AA approach is already winning out over the Qantas approach - AA are flying far more flights and generating far more revenue. I'm not aware of Qantas' specific cash reserve situation, but I would be very curious to hear how they plan to stay solvent through to July 2021 not flying internationally. That doesn't seem mathematically likely to me given what we know about the European & US airlines cashflows.
cson wrote: » Are you aware AA just raised $2bn at 11.75%? That's a junk bond bracket coupon for reference. AA is in deep **** & them running a larger program of flights than their competitors has all the hallmarks of a Hail Mary play.
BZ wrote: » Eamon Ryan confirmed as minister for transport, he will definitely not help an already very fragile aviation industry in this country.
L1011 wrote: » Hildegarde Naughton will have responsibility for international transport & logistics; including sitting at cabinet.
BZ wrote: » She is down as a super junior minister, will she have any power in that position or will it ultimately lie with mon Ryan?
Jack1985 wrote: » If you don't feel safe flying don't, nobody is forcing you too.
Inquitus wrote: » I think you'll be surprised how few people are actually willing to fly when push comes to shove. I'll be taking the family on a staycation this year. I travel extensively for work and I cannot see any of our corporate travel returning this year.
A spokesperson for TUI said the move was a "hugely positive step forward"."We've already seen bookings increase by 50% this week, versus last [week], with holidays to Spain and Greece looking the most popular this summer," said Andrew Flintham, managing director of TUI UK and Ireland.Lastminute.com said it experienced an 80% increase on holiday sales compared to last week, largely attributed to the announcement of Spain lifting the quarantine for Brits.
John Keefe, director of public affairs at Eurotunnel, said phones had been "ringing off the hook". Eurotunnel saw an increase of bookings weeks ago, suggesting that many holidaymakers had already started to "discount the quarantine measures", said Mr Keefe - but bookings "exploded" when the announcement was made on Friday.
Comparing the operating costs of an airliner against Dublin Bus is somewhat laughable. Who do you want to pick up the tab for implementing such distancing? Not one flight will generate income and proportionality Government's will pick up the tab when these businesses fail. The crew for example through virtue of seating arrangements and accessibility on aircraft cannot socially distance. If you don't feel safe flying don't, nobody is forcing you too.
trellheim wrote: » True enough although nobody is forcing the airlines to set a maximum price for the seats either, so... swings and roundabouts. I am being extremely cynical here but I would see it as the role for Govt to set the social distancing here; DAA and airlines banging on about masks is only one part of it. ( and social distancing in the terminal but not in the plane... come off it )
Tenger wrote: » I would 100% agree regarding corporate travel (which accounts for the major chunk of airline yield) But I can see a decent amount of leisure travel to Sun destinations in July/August.
x567 wrote: » LIAT going under by the look of it...http://guyanachronicle.com/2020/06/27/liat-to-be-liquidated-new-airline-to-be-formed
Nijmegen wrote: » NPHET members all singing from the same hymn sheet about travel. Seems it’s ticking up as a cause of transmission again. The experience we’re seeing in other countries with the spread expanding till further lockdowns are required (the US is an egregious example, but S Korea and China are examples of it happening in places that are taking it seriously) is concerning. Also concerning seeing the lack of face mask etc discipline if you go out and about these days, in shopping centres etc. It’s all pretty grim for the medium term prospects of the aviation industry, especially if corporate travel is dead given its role in many airlines’ profitability mix.https://twitter.com/president_mu/status/1277206296106844166?s=21
HTCOne wrote: » What would be really useful to know is where exactly these imported cases are coming from. If it is the UK or movement of EU citizens living / working in US or vice versa, then that’s why the air bridges excluding these countries that are being discussed are ok. If it is all the EU countries we want to open up to, then that’s a different matter.
Van.Bosch wrote: » Am I reading it right that travel as a % of cases was actually higher at the start of the graph? So why are they more concerned now?
Nijmegen wrote: » And remember in their advice what they’re saying is not just that Johnny Foreigner will bring it in, rather we might go out and traipse it back again.
