Pete2k wrote: » So the services of the self proclaimed 'Greenway Champion' Cannon are no longer required in government and he has essentially been demoted. Good to know his opinions were never considered important which is quite evident given he wasnt even offered a junior role this time.
ezstreet5 wrote: » It's listed in their Transport Policy dated 30th April 2020.https://www.greenparty.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Transport-Policy.pdf
westtip wrote: » The Eamon Ryan quote interesting, however how does that weigh up with the fact that despite naming several key rail projects in the GP Manifesto 2020 and the last one in 2017 why didn't they list the WRC as must have rail project.....grandstanding at a committee and actually being able to do something as a minister are two entirely different political situations. We shall indeed see what unfolds, thankfully I don't think it will be more of the same.
ezstreet5 wrote: » Eamon Ryan introduced a motion to the Dáil in April 2019 to reactivate the railway, stating:https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2019-04-18/25/ Reading further in the debate, you can see the recurring kneejerk reaction of some politicians that the WRC is and always will be a colossal waste of money and should be shut down on the basis of the 2011 "Ghost Train" episode of Prime Time.
Muckyboots wrote: » I wouldn't be so dismissive of change. Phase 1 (trains) was built during a short era of mindless spending and false starts, but wouldn't pretend to know what Minister Eamon Ryan will read from the report. Ring (still a government TD) and Canney will continue to be influential with a swath of quangos reflecting their "ethos" continuing to drive regional policy. The sky has changed but the forecast is still the same, unfortunately.
The following motion was moved by Deputy Eamon Ryan on Wednesday, 17 April 2019: That Dáil Éireann: notes that: [...] — vitally important public transport projects such as the Western Rail Corridor, the Dublin-Navan railway line and the Dublin Area Rapid Transit (DART) Interconnector, which a decade ago were close to being implemented, were stopped by the Government; [...] and calls on the Government to: [...] — completion of the restoration of the Western Rail Corridor;
ezstreet5 wrote: » There is an overfocus here, and undue weight placed on the views of men (and women) in politics. This is a common error repeatedly made by earnest folk in the West (election after election). Overall, recent policy and politics would slightly nudge the issue towards rail reactivation. But ever so slightly. Don't read eras into minor political maneuvers.
westtip wrote: » CC couldn't get past the undue influence Canney had on Lord Ross, the fact Canney had to be kept sweet to keep the administration hanging on by a thread, the last government was weak due to numbers. BTW I sat in meetings with the NWRA planners with Ciaran and he was very influential to get the Greenway aspects packed into the RSES, he also came with me to give his views to the independent EY consultants when we both met and presented to them, his influence at that meeting will I am sure be reflected in the report EY come up with. Ciaran Cannon influenced 3000 people to march on the streets of Tuam he has given leadership to this campaign and has had a great deal of influence on the overall outcome of what is going to happen on this route. He did a great job. We now have a strong government in terms of arithmetic not beholding to the like of Canney. As others have said we have a Green minister who will consider the greenway option. Ciaran Cannon was the victim of maths and gender he still represents the constituency as does Anne Rabbitte and they will both openly canvass for the greenway. Up north in Sligo Frankie Feighan is a huge supporter of the greenway, as are Marc Macsharry, and Marian Harkin. Ring gone off the scene, Canney off the scene, even anti greenway TD in Mayo Lisa Chambers is out of harms way in he Seanad we have also see the back of Lord Ross, Western Rail Corridor not mentioned in Green Manifesto, whole thing reliant on independent report which none of us have seen, Green Minister who wants a national Greenway network as his legacy. I would say those of who support the greenway are a lot happier about the current situation, CC is a loss as a minister but just think, Ring gone from ministerial role, Canney gone from the same, Chambers gone to the Seanad, Ross gone All in all I think things have changed for the better......
Pete2k wrote: » The same Anne Rabitte who was convinced last week that she was going to be a senior minister and now has had to accept a consolation junior role... ya I've no doubt she'll be really influential! Just as much as Cannon was the last 3 yrs I'd say.
eastwest wrote: » Still, she'll be lot more influential than former job-sharing Junior Minister Sean Canney, who now faces five years in the political wilderness.
intellectual dosser wrote: » Train tracks or greenway or neither - this could get interesting!
Deleted User wrote: » Not to worry, there's another self-professed greenway champion promoted, Anne Rabbitte
By opening up this greenway, by opening up this old railway line, we're showing the people what we have. I don't want a greenway on the old railway line; I want it adjacent to it.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Not to worry, there's another self-professed greenway champion promoted, Anne Rabbitte I guess we'll have to console ourselves with the fact that there's 2 pro-greenway Galway East TD's in power, one of which is a junior minister greens (pro cycling infrastructure) in power 1.8 billion being pumped into cycling / walking infrastructure over the next few years at the behest of the greens A green minister has his hands on the rail review Seaney is nowhere to be seen Not really feeling that down about things to be honest But I guess we'll all have to wait and see the review, until then I'm off for a cycle weeeeeeeeeeeeee
Pete2k wrote: » So the services of the self proclaimed 'Greenway Champion' Cannon are no longer required in government and he has essentially been demoted. Good to know his opinions were never considered important which is quite evident given he wasnt even offered a junior role this time. Perhaps now he'll have more time to go work with his constituents of east galway and convince them to allow the athlone to galway greenway to proceed. Oh no wait that wouldn't be good for his image...
Pete2k wrote: » https://midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/39603-failte-ireland-backed-projects-to-proceed-irrespective-of-the-pandemic Good to see despite westip's best attempts to stop it the velorail looks as if its going ahead
Ireland trains wrote: » None of the additional 41 carriges will initally be for the WRC. the fleet will be reorganised into 22×6, 20×4 and 21×3. The current icr sets on the WRC are 3 cars and will remain so. The icrs will only be cascaded off dublin suburban services once a new fleet arrives in min 3 of years time.
Greaney wrote: » I thought there were plans to double track/loop between Galway City & Athenry...https://www.tuamherald.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/01/22/4184680-double-track-for-athenrygalway-route-in-the-pipeline/https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-rail-set-to-get-nta-approval-for-100m-worth-of-rail-carriages-1.3753805https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/city-council-to-make-rail-loop-at-oranmore-top-priority/
Losty Dublin wrote: » Oddly enough there were plans proposed to extend the Ballinrobe line onwards to Cong. Would have made for an excellent greenway; it would have been a real Quiet Man Greenway too.
ShaneC1600 wrote: » You also say the doubling of the Galway line to Athenry is way down the list, how do you know this? I believe this could be prioritized very quickly with multiple agencies applying for EU funding presently. The doubling of the track is not waiting on that report but the report might state that doubling of the existing is required!
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