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Allow me to explain why the 'All Live Matter' hashtag is awful.

iamstop

If you are using the 'alllivesmatter' hashtag and don't know any better or are confused why people are mad at you let me explain it:
1. The original hashtag 'BlackLivesMatter' was a reaction to a string of well documented cases of police brutality that resulted in the death of a long list of unarmed black people. On top of that there was no appropriate punishment for the police officers involved. They mostly got paid or unpaid leave until the heat died down and continued back at their jobs after that. Meanwhile the families and friends of the deceased got no justice. This sends shockwaves of trauma throughout the immediate community, the country of the US and the rest of the black population outside of the US too. This original hashtag started to really shine a light of the system wide oppression of black people in America and elsewhere.
2. The oppressors decided that this hashtag would gather too much momentum and decided they needed to water it down and dilute it with 'alllivesmatter' to protect the racist system that they benefit from. And to some degree it's working (COINTELPRO). Every time you use that hashtag you are doing the work of the oppressor. You are being used as a pawn. You are being manipulated into diluting a movement that's main goal is end police brutality.
2a. Nobody using the 'BlackLivesMatter hashtag is saying Only Black Live Matter. It is universally understood that all lives matter.
3. So, now that you are educated on the deceitful and hateful and manipulative reasons for this 'alllivesmatter' hashtag to exist you should stop doing the work of the oppressor and stop using it and stop being used.
3a. If you've read all this and understand it and still use the 'alllivesmatter' hashtag then shame on you. You are a terrible human.

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Hannibal36

The original post in this thread has thread has so many likes it is insane.
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"If you've read all this and understand it and still use the 'alllivesmatter' hashtag then shame on you. You are a terrible human"

Do so many people really believe it is ok to label so many White people on the other side as terrible human beings what sort of dialogue can happen when it is either my way or you are a terrible human being.

Do people realise that indigenous Irish people are placed behind all immigrants when it comes to social housing in this country this is actively happening here.This is an indisputable fact.Black kids can stab and almost murder Irish kids with actual proof on video then boast about it on social media and not spend a night in jail,out on bail.Does that White kid feel like his life matters now? He is white,it doesn't seem universally accepted that his life matters,there is no punishment meted out to his assailants simply because they are Black,if that was the other way around that White Irish kid wouldn't see the light of day for at least 5 years.

Poor is poor and they feel oppressed so just because some middle class White liberals have been browbeat into carrying some White guilt,you are never going to get a poor White person to carry that guilt absolutely never and it is insanity to label a mass of White people as terrible humans just because they won't get on the guilt train with you.It is never going to happen but White liberals have decided to shut down dialogue with every poor White person and call them terrible humans.

1800_Ladladlad

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Cupatae

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Great news for American police. They no longer have to put themselves in danger by going into ghettos and neighborhoods that they are not wanted.
If these blm units attack police then they will see war alright. They will be piled up by the trailer load .

Give em what they want, let see how long this blm delusional utopia lasts.

ExMachina1000

maestroamado wrote: »

Interesting times ahead...

https://disrn.com/news/blm-leader-says-group-developing-highly-trained-military-arm-for-war-on-police

I just seen this now...

Great news for American police. They no longer have to put themselves in danger by going into ghettos and neighborhoods that they are not wanted.
If these blm units attack police then they will see war alright. They will be piled up by the trailer load .

maestroamado

punisher5112 wrote: »

Why is it always turned into a race war.

We are all human beings, breath and bleed exactly the same....

Better education and prospects for all, more equal opportunity for all.

This is only starting, i would say the vast majority of the wealth and power of the world is controlled by white people, the next thing there will be demands for equal representation in Government and boardroom so interesting times ahead, I think i read somewhere recently that just 10% of world population is white like me. Is there any black TD?
Slavery was the start of immigration and only for this there likely not be as many people on the planet as Africian countries would only be able to sustain much smaller population with food they can produce.

I expect there be civil unrest before this is sorted, it's almost an impossible task to have equality in a world that is over-populated and a small proportion of the people (us) have most of the wealth.

Interesting times ahead...

https://disrn.com/news/blm-leader-says-group-developing-highly-trained-military-arm-for-war-on-police

I just seen this now...

Carfacemandog

In Dublin some monuments came down peacefully and by government planning, but not all of them. Just look at Nelson's Pillar or the William of Orange statue in College Green for examples.

In the US there is also a mixture of primarily confederate statues being taken down forcibly and removed by way of government planning, etc. Some other changes are also occurring, one example being that Mississippi is looking very likely to change its (confederate themed) state flag while some cities like New Orleans are renaming all confederate named streets.

tjhook

Foxtrol wrote: »

I'm still waiting to hear why Irish pulling down statues and changing names of towns is ok but BLM wanting it is bad.

It's a very good question and it's good to challenge oneself on these things. For me the important factor is not the desire to keep or get rid of a statue, but rather how that end is achieved.

I'm not in favour of mobs taking it on themselves to decide which statues to topple. E.g. if I could gather a few hundred or even a few thousand anti-FF people willing to tear down statues of Eamon De Velera, does that give me a mandate to do it? The mob in Bristol would appear to think it does.

Where a person lobbies an authority and as a result a decision is taken by that authority to remove a statue, that's different. That's lawful and democratic, whether it applies to statues of war heroes/criminals, slave traders or anything else.

Somebody above (perhaps yourself?) made a very good point about Nazi statues after WW2. Thinking about it, I could add to that situations like Iraq where statues of Saddam Hussein were toppled. I'd view those slightly differently. Still mob action, but unusual situations in that the state had collapsed and there was no authority to appeal to. In the absence of a state/authority, all that remains is individuals making their own decisions.

In the case of Ireland after independence, I would guess most of the town renaming and statue removals were done with the permission/order of the new state. Not always, as in the case of Nelson's Pillar in Dublin. I'd consider that a reckless unlawful action by a mob. There was democracy and an authority to lobby rather than sneaking around using explosives in a city centre.

Tony EH

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You wont see a black man playing a Roman emperor in a movie nor will you see a white man plays Congolese war lord.

You will if it's a film set in the late second century/early third century.

ReggiePines

Cupatae wrote: »

Meanwhile in perfectly acceptable land.

How about darth vader being voiced by a black man even tho darth vader was white..

Interesting times ahead:rolleyes::D:D

No sane white person is even remotely offended by this, what is offensive however is the hypocritical double standard being perpetrated by these moronic BLM witch hunters.

Cupatae

Meanwhile in perfectly acceptable land.

How about darth vader being voiced by a black man even tho darth vader was white..

Interesting times ahead:rolleyes::D:D

1800_Ladladlad

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

1 why Americans carry guns and should do
2 that red goggles wearing mouthy coward should be identified , isolated and disfigured.

Out of control

This level of intimidation, harassment, and assault from the cockroaches is accepted again and again. I honestly admire people who take. But we have seen many times online, videos of people/groups reacting or retaliating against these commies and its beautiful to see.

Carfacemandog

Bonniedog wrote: »

There's a lot more evidence that investing in policing and handing out real prison time is cost effective and a much more efficient means to protect NY citizens of all colours.

NY murders fell from 2245 in 1990 to 289 in 2018. They rose to 318 last year as city starts to return to its bat**** liberal anti NYPD policies that almost destroyed the place.

Education budget is $34 billion for year 2019/20.

Health and welfare budget is $33 billion.

You give the impression children have no school books!

NYCs murder rate last year was lower than any year bar 2018 and 2017. Were there huge cuts made to the budget in 2017 and 2018 or something?

ingalway

oyvey wrote: »

Right. Segregate the races. That’ll bring peace.

Segregation is now a thing within the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) in Seattle. It's unbelievable that segregation is now seen as progress. Not only does it hark back to the awful Jim Crow days it can now only create bigger barriers and distrust between people.

https://disrn.com/news/video-shows-black-only-segregated-areas-within-chaz

ExMachina1000

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Scenes like these below show how mentally undeveloped these people are. I know we've seen it many times before but ffs its like a parody at times

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1276699870586441734

1 why Americans carry guns and should do
2 that red goggles wearing mouthy coward should be identified , isolated and disfigured.

Out of control

Cupatae

oyvey wrote: »

Right. Segregate the races. That’ll bring peace.

I know the whole thing is a contradiction... The witcher actively went along and sought out a more mixed cast as the books it was mostly all white people , but they decided to give black people , Hispanic people white roles...

Cupatae

oyvey wrote: »

Right. Segregate the races. That’ll bring peace.

1800_Ladladlad

Scenes like these below show how mentally undeveloped these people are. I know we've seen it many times before but ffs its like a parody at times

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1276699870586441734

oyvey

Cupatae wrote: »

I assume this will work both ways, no more black people to be given white roles, like "James bond , the witcher"

Black people or "coloured" can now only act in jobs that were specifically race stated in an attempt to end racism

If it wasn't all so stupid it d nearly be funny.

Right. Segregate the races. That’ll bring peace.

ExMachina1000

Cupatae wrote: »

I assume this will work both ways, no more black people to be given white roles, like "James bond , the witcher"

Black people or "coloured" can now only act in jobs that were specifically race stated in an attempt to end racism

If it wasn't all so stupid it d nearly be funny.

Well it wouldn't be fair.
Black people for black people roles ,white people for white people roles etc.

You wont see a black man playing a Roman emperor in a movie nor will you see a white man plays Congolese war lord.

Cupatae

oyvey wrote: »

Also Smithers is heavily implied to be gay, if not outright stated. So it would have to be a gay black man to voice Smithers back then.

I assume this will work both ways, no more black people to be given white roles, like "James bond , the witcher"

Black people or "coloured" can now only act in jobs that were specifically race stated in an attempt to end racism

If it wasn't all so stupid it d nearly be funny.

Cupatae

oyvey wrote: »

Also Smithers is heavily implied to be gay, if not outright stated. So it would have to be a gay black man to voice Smithers back then.

oyvey

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Should do like they did with Smithers in the first season, just change him from black to 'white'....

Also Smithers is heavily implied to be gay, if not outright stated. So it would have to be a gay black man to voice Smithers back then.

Quantum Erasure

Should do like they did with Smithers in the first season, just change him from black to 'white'....

1800_Ladladlad

Im interested in seeing how much reparations The Simpsons with providing to the black community for the years of cultural appropriation and suffering they cause on them

https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1276658160816832512

ChelseaRentBoy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Ex MET Detective Chief Superintendent Kevin Hurley gives some very uncomfortable truths during Sky news interview today following the Brixton police attacks, which so sky news cut him off. They did this a SN reporter with the reading attack last week.

https://twitter.com/Miss_Snuffy/status/1276408045845831681

He will never be invited back to voice his honest opinions again.

ExMachina1000

https://twitter.com/FreedomDogLover/status/1276659359095894016?s=20

Looks like he got out before the cancel culture vultures picked up on it and came for him.

ChelseaRentBoy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

It was only a matter of time. Will we get back-dated apologies too

https://twitter.com/mikehenrybro/status/1276631712949317639

He shouid hand back his wages also.

ExMachina1000

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Who's going to play the talking dog....?

Scooby doo is coming out of retirement apparently. But he is a brown dog while the family guy character is a white dog so I'd expect there may be some more problems.

Quantum Erasure

Who's going to play the talking dog....?

oyvey

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

It was only a matter of time. Will we get back-dated apologies too

https://twitter.com/mikehenrybro/status/1276631712949317639

I wonder will Mike Henry also be returning all the money he’s made playing a black character over the years if he has such a guilty conscience about it.