Strawberry Milkshake wrote: » Are you sure your maths are correct? Segregation ended 56 years ago so the 55 year old wasn’t born yet. First grade is age 5/6 so a 61/62 year old would have experienced 1 year of lawful segregation.
Foxtrol wrote: » Yeah, Irish folk with your perspective don't like remembering our close comparisons. They don't like being reminded that we removed or blew up statues and renamed towns when we got independence.
Foxtrol wrote: » ......... You're also overly inflating the success 1st generation poor immigrants have in the US. It is generally 2nd or 3rd generation where you see their families go to college and move into the middle class. Again, a black person that went to a segregated school could be 55 years old now so we haven't seen what the 2nd or 3rd generations will do.
Foxtrol wrote: » While a lot of people that have issues with protesters give off such a racist vibe.
Foxtrol wrote: » It has relevance due to it showing your utter hypocrisy on each topics, it is just somewhat unclear exactly what your motivation (though there is one obvious explanation). 'Defund the police will never work'... while ignoring how it was championed by most Irish people when it came to the RUC. Complain about statues being taken down... while ignoring how the Irish did it after we gained independence. If you want the RUC back or the return of the statue of Queen Victoria or Cobh returning to being called Queenstown then I'm happy to say you're not a hypocrite
oyvey wrote: » A lot of the white protesters I see in all of this give off such a sycophantic vibe.
Cupatae wrote: » Yeah us Irish folk... that must be it...It's nothing to do with this nonsense having 0 relevance to what we were originally discussing... you are reaching now and it's Abit embarrassing.. What's next ? The gestapo ?
Foxtrol wrote: » Yeah, Irish folk with your perspective don't like remembering our close comparisons. They don't like being reminded how we vilified the RUC and British army in the north for very similar actions as the US police now. They don't like being reminded that many cheered for defunding the RUC and the creation of the PSNI. They don't like being reminded that we removed or blew up statues and renamed towns when we got independence.
Foxtrol wrote: » Just because you haven't bothered to educate yourself before posting about US history, I'm not 'making stuff up'.
Cupatae wrote: » Making stuff up again I see , can you qoute me on about the tenant farmers bit ? Thanks You ve been pressed for answers ya ain't got em your realizing slowly how ridiculous your stances and your reaching desperately now... You ve been found wanting! Should they ever be stupid enough to defund the police in the states , you ll be in for a interesting time!
Cupatae wrote: » From tenant farmers to the ruc are we still talking about BLM in the US, absolutely ridiculous comparisons , and you talk to other posters about comparing apples and oranges So it's not racism you want to end then it's poverty specifically black poverty because everyone should be treated equal what ya think about white poverty??, But anyway I've got some bad news for ya... Defunding the police ain't gonna cut it there.
Quantum Erasure wrote: » that took an unexpected turn
Silentcorner wrote: » Things are shaping up well for the Democratic party being led by a 78 year old man in a bunker who is well placed to control all the extreme elements of his party....according to the polls anyway!!!
1800_Ladladlad wrote: » Apparently, a white man who's married to a black woman, and have a child together, can still be a racist. Racism can only. be systematically white. :rolleyes:
Danzy wrote: » Democratic Senator from Wisconsin got a few head kicks from BLM fighting squads.
Foxtrol wrote: » And black kids that weren't allowed to go to school with white kids could be 55 years old now. The civil rights act is only 56 years old. A child that had to ride in the back of the bus may not have hit pension age. You're complaining that the entire black community hasn't pulled themselves out of poverty in that period. As I said you're calling the sons of Irish tenant farmers lazy for not being as wealthy as the sons of land owners. It is as ridiculous argument
Foxtrol wrote: » No one says he can't get there but it is common sense that on average a greater number of people starting at C won't make it to A than those that start at A. It costs money but the NYPD budget is $6 billion dollars and actual expenditure is a few billion more Did you support the RUC in the north? Were their actions just a few bad cops? Were you angry that they were 'defunded' and replaced with the PSNI?
Cupatae wrote: » Good Lord how far back do ya wanna go like ? Why don't we start at the Neolithic age altogether and go from there... Talk about dragging the discussion into absolute nonsense. We were clearly on about the present day...
Cupatae wrote: » He does actually , infact he can get college paid all the way up to masters and avail of countless grants just cause you don't start at point C doesn't mean you can't get there. Now if he sits there and whinges how he started behind the 8 ball well them that's on him but the main point is the opportunity is there , the work is there. It's down to the individual, all those lads that chose crime in the us could have easily choose to get a job and graft but they took the easy way out.
You don't think police training costs money ?
As I said the actions of the few shouldn't out weigh the good deeds of the many are you saying the police in the us are and always have been bad ? All of them ? Also are implying there is systematic mass slaughter of black people in the us by the police , is that what you meant by my head in the sand you keep saying that vague stuff but never back it up.
Foxtrol wrote: » Sure in Irish history why weren't the sons of Irish tenant farmers able to gain the same wealth as the sons of the landlords. If they just weren't so lazy... :rolleyes:
Cupatae wrote: » What about Asians having more money than them ? Is it like a two step thing level em with the whites first then, bring em up to that Asian money ? Wealth doesnt = equality Rich and poor always gonna be there it doesn't give a damn about color so... Do we just hand em money or ? What's stopping a black person from gaining wealth? Bar excuses ? Nothing if they put in the same work as the next person they ll get the breaks just ask every single successful black person on America. Your points are insanely biased to black Americans like to a ridiculous level .your about two posts away from defunding the police and giving the money to black people.
jackboy wrote: » There is no doubt that the average recent immigrant works much harder than the average poor black or white American. These immigrants come from much much greater oppression than these poor Americans. Culture not opportunity is the main factor in outcomes for poor Americans.
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