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NEW 2020 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

Cheeseplant

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&cid=114935&campaignId=2045902

Very surprised at this...there is an open AP competition ongoing at the moment. Why aren't they using that panel??

Can a mod change the title- this is a standard open for all departments.

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JosTep

Well today is the day I expect to be told

"I wish to inform you that you did not reach the qualifying standard and therefore you will not be invited to the next stage of the process"

And i close down everything and say sod this and go off and put my tail between my legs and watch Netflix for the afternoon - just hope its not after clock off time

Marie_C

Keep the head up. Hopefully you get a positive response, if not, you have a draft of a detailed application (which is no small feat) and practice at the tests (also no fun). Well done for taking the time to apply, there will be hundreds who didn’t put in the effort. Fingers crossed for you.

SFC1895

JosTep wrote: »

Well today is the day I expect to be told

"I wish to inform you that you did not reach the qualifying standard and therefore you will not be invited to the next stage of the process"

And i close down everything and say sod this and go off and put my tail between my legs and watch Netflix for the afternoon - just hope its not after clock off time

That's a great attitude

Chocolate Teapot

Are the results expected today?

Marie_C

Chocolate Teapot wrote: »

Are the results expected today?

There seems to be a pattern of results for stage 1 after 3 weeks in some PAS comps but there’s no guarantee. Depends on number of applicants, resources in PAS, checks etc. Hopefully we’ll hear soon but I just put it out of my head until I get the email about a message on the public jobs message board. Good luck everyone.

JosTep

SFC1895 wrote: »

That's a great attitude

I have been here before - no matter how much I pretend that it doesn't bother me, when I get the rejection email, I am a bit disappointed

Eventually I will realise, it's me and not them that is the problem:P

Marie_C

JosTep wrote: »

I have been here before - no matter how much I pretend that it doesn't bother me, when I get the rejection email, I am a bit disappointed

Eventually I will realise, it's me and not them that is the problem:P

Hi Joe,
I don’t know a single person who hasn’t been unsuccessful in a competition or competitions over the years. They are tricky beasts. Important thing is to keep trying if you feel the role is right for you.
Make a cuppa and enjoy living in the blissful unknown for the mean time. Mind yourself.

iuil1999

JosTep wrote: »

I have been here before - no matter how much I pretend that it doesn't bother me, when I get the rejection email, I am a bit disappointed

Eventually I will realise, it's me and not them that is the problem:P

Chin up. You won't be alone. I'm allergic to the results coming out. I thought it was a weird stage. Sure there will be another one in 2022 ;-)

JosTep

iuil1999 wrote: »

Chin up. You won't be alone. I'm allergic to the results coming out. I thought it was a weird stage. Sure there will be another one in 2022 ;-)

Thanks - I said that in 2015, 2017, 2018 sure I'm an old hand at this

See you all on the other side

iuil1999

JosTep wrote: »

Thanks - I said that in 2015, 2017, 2018 sure I'm an old hand at this

See you all on the other side

I never did an Open competition before but I have done internal competitions at other grades and always got on grand. This one was very different. God only knows what the next stages would be like!

bobbysands81

Marie_C wrote: »

There seems to be a pattern of results for stage 1 after 3 weeks in some PAS comps but there’s no guarantee. Depends on number of applicants, resources in PAS, checks etc. Hopefully we’ll hear soon but I just put it out of my head until I get the email about a message on the public jobs message board. Good luck everyone.

It would be savage if PAS got the results out in 3 weeks whilst working remotely.

Best of luck to you all.

moneymaid

Was really hoping to hear today ☹️*Sigh*

dellbell111

Me too...... Wish they would just tell us , as surely they have results ready by now ...

RWC15champions

I'm losing my mind here, I really hope it's tomorrow cause I can't go another weekend without knowing...

Scubachica04

I imagine it might actually take longer than usual because the staff are working remotely. It's my first competition and I'm not holding out much hope, but I'm still interested to see how the process works.
The application process has been really helpful and something I can use again. It was interesting to see the tests and they were tough!

Does anyone know of somewhere online where you can sign up for practice tests? I signed up to a website to practise the tests once we got the first email, but it cost €40 for the week. I think the tests are something you need to keep practising over time to get better at them, so I wanted to sign up to a website for a few months to get more practise, but somewhere that's cheaper than the one I used already.

Best of luck everyone and hopefully we'll hear from them soon!

Cheeseplant

Hmmph.. so.. tomorrow then?!

Remind me

JosTep wrote: »

Well today is the day I expect to be told

"I wish to inform you that you did not reach the qualifying standard and therefore you will not be invited to the next stage of the process"

And i close down everything and say sod this and go off and put my tail between my legs and watch Netflix for the afternoon - just hope its not after clock off time

Don't forget the new addition of being cut on your form after reaching the qualifying mark

moneymaid

Well at least LFC won the Premier League today. Not a bad day after all lol

Hopefully results will be out tomorrow ðŸ€žðŸ»

Audreyly

moneymaid wrote: »

Well at least LFC won the Premier League today. Not a bad day after all lol

Hopefully results will be out tomorrow ðŸ€žðŸ»

YNWA, 30 years coming but so worth the wait

Anonire

JosTep wrote: »

I have been here before - no matter how much I pretend that it doesn't bother me, when I get the rejection email, I am a bit disappointed

Eventually I will realise, it's me and not them that is the problem:P

I think every rejection bothers most people even just a little bit. I hope you are pleasantly surprised this time however.
I failed an aptitude test via pas years back on the verbal by a very small amount and well exceeded the other two areas. The disappointment was real. All anyone can do is practice and hope for better next time.

Someone else asked about practice tests,
There are paid sites out there where you can practice unfortunately some of them aren't very helpful. I've come across one or two that were actually giving wrong answers or no answers which I didn't find helpful. The wrong answers site actively encouraged you to find the issues.
And another site that may only have one test that's relevant and that isn't much use as you will eventually learn the right answers without understanding them.

Eta by no answers I mean it doesn't tell you which of your answers are wrong so just a total score.

moneymaid

Anonire wrote: »

I failed an aptitude test via pas years back on the verbal by a very small amount and well exceeded the other two areas. The disappointment was real. All anyone can do is practice and hope for better next time.

Oh do we get a breakdown of the test, as in your score in each test?

I assumed it was just a yes you passed or no you didn't!

MrsBean

moneymaid wrote: »

Oh do we get a breakdown of the test, as in your score in each test?

I assumed it was just a yes you passed or no you didn't!

You will be told your score, the qualifying score and if you passed it. For example, You failed to meet the qualifying score; you scored 38 and the qualifying score for this test was 40.

Anonire

moneymaid wrote: »

Oh do we get a breakdown of the test, as in your score in each test?

I assumed it was just a yes you passed or no you didn't!

With PAS you usually get a score for each area and an order of merit overall if you passed each section.
Other non PAS campaigns sometimes just say you have reached qualifying standard or not.

JosTep

moneymaid wrote: »

Oh do we get a breakdown of the test, as in your score in each test?

I assumed it was just a yes you passed or no you didn't!

Here is the normal layout

Further to your completion of Stage 1 (online Situational Judgement Questionnaire and Aptitude Tests) in respect of your candidature for the above campaign, I wish to inform you that you did not reach the qualifying standard and therefore you will not be invited to the next stage of the process.

Candidates were required to reach the qualifying standard in each test in order to qualify.

Your scores in the tests were as follows:

Situational Judgement Questionnaire
Qualifying Score 40
Your Score 39

Verbal Analysis
Qualifying Score 42
Your Score 62

Numerical Analysis
Qualifying Score 40
Your Score 65

The Maximum score in each test is 80

I would like to thank you for your participation in the selection process and wish you the best for the future.

Yours sincerely,

Marie Hayes
Public Appointments Service

John Hutton

Is anyone brave enough to ring and ask?

JosTep

John Hutton wrote: »

Is anyone brave enough to ring and ask?

I'm afraid they'll tell me bad news

Remind me

Anonire wrote: »

With PAS you usually get a score for each area and an order of merit overall if you passed each section.
Other non PAS campaigns sometimes just say you have reached qualifying standard or not.

Order of merit was gone in the last one. Gave you your score then said to what scores they were taking forward. So if you scored 115 points and they were only taking scores of 116 or better you miss out on batch 1.

Also you could be cut on your application form even if you scored above the qualifying mark.

DarDee

John Hutton wrote: »

Is anyone brave enough to ring and ask?

I rang. They are not taking phone calls. You have to email them.

PhoenixParker

Remind me wrote: »

Order of merit was gone in the last one. Gave you your score then said to what scores they were taking forward. So if you scored 115 points and they were only taking scores of 116 or better you miss out on batch 1.

Also you could be cut on your application form even if you scored above the qualifying mark.

They did give an order of merit (it was in the opening paragraphs) but stated score when they were saying who they were taking forward.

They took about 1000 forward in batch 1.

DarDee

Here’s the reply I got today:
‘We are working towards having the results issued as soon as we possibly can. As you can appreciate the current crisis has slowed down our processes to a degree. However we will have them as soon as possible and you will be notified of your results through your message board.’