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The Irish Pub is finished.

Jimmy Garlic

I know a town where only one out of four is planning to reopen, one already has a for sale sign up. Same story all over the country. Tourist traps will be the only places where there won’t be mass casualties. Only 50% planning to reopen on the 29th. That’s a lot of jobs permanently removed from the economy by bat flu hysteria.

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PirateShampoo

Bob Harris wrote: »

Between 2005 and 2018 there were 1500 pub closures. Myriad of reasons but the industry is in decline.

Or over saturation?

Is it a good idea to have 6 pubs in a town with 1 street?

murpho999

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

You could have a substantial amount of cocktail sausages or chicken wings, sprinkle with parsley, hey presto.

Anyhow I know you're trying to be funny, which it's not but it's simple that pubs that not operate a normal food business before with menus and proper kitchens will not be opening.

These hilarious jokes about cocktail sausages and €9 bags of Tayto will not work and those pubs will simply have to wait a few weeks.

I don't think I'll be bothered with the pubs for a while anyway with all the restrictions in place as I go their to relax.

HBC08

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Cobble together a “restaurant”, packet of nightlights and some napkins should do the trick, promote a staff member to “chef”. Buy a toasted sandwich maker and a large saucepan.

I'm currently trying to reopen a side business (tourism based) on Mon 29th.Its a lot less complicated than reopening a pub to act as a restaurant but theres an awful lot involved in complying with new covid regulations.
"cobbled together" doesnt cut it.

I suspect youre not running a business yourself but give gold plated advice from the barstool?

murpho999

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

You could have a substantial amount of cocktail sausages or chicken wings, sprinkle with parsley, hey presto.

The 1980s just called you and they want their pub back.

Jimmy Garlic

murpho999 wrote: »

Well that has been well document in the media to not be true and it must be a substantial meal.

As for the OP, the ignorance is strong in this one.

Pubs are struggling to due changes in people's lifestyles but they will always be there.

They have adapted over the years and become places where you can get a decent meal.

Years ago pubs served at best a rotten carvery and maybe toasted sandwiches in a bag.

Now they're better and smoke free.

Irish people like to enjoy themselves too much for pubs to disappear entirely.

You could have a substantial amount of cocktail sausages or chicken wings, sprinkle with parsley, hey presto.

[Deleted User]

markfinn wrote: »

Good.
While it won't do much to improve the current mobs of shambling alcoholics in the country, it will hopefully reduce the time they spend rampaging around the streets when all worthwhile people are trying to sleep, and will reduce the impression being handed to the next generation that this self-destructive and socially destructive behaviour is "cultural", "normal" or "acceptable".

It’s not those pubs that will be closing. It’s the ones that are essential for the elderly bachelor farmer in the middle of nowhere to go and get his pint and only social interaction

maestroamado

The VFI are largely responsible for the demise of rural pubs, its a pity really.
A bottle of premium lager can be bought in supermarket can be bought in a shop for €1.
The VFI want customers to pay €4/5 for same product in regular bar.
They missed a golden opportunity when cafe bars were suggested but they rejected the idea.
Its like everything else, adapt to the needes of society or die.

I do not think pubs can open unless they serve meal minimum €9...

Dravokivich

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Cobble together a “restaurant”, packet of nightlights and some napkins should do the trick, promote a staff member to “chef”. Buy a toasted sandwich maker and a large saucepan.

I hope I'm never going to buy something off you, if you think business should be done with less than minimal effort.

murpho999

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

They are allowed to open as long as they serve food. That could be baked beans on toast or cocktail sausages and peanuts.

Well that has been well document in the media to not be true and it must be a substantial meal.

As for the OP, the ignorance is strong in this one.

Pubs are struggling to due changes in people's lifestyles but they will always be there.

They have adapted over the years and become places where you can get a decent meal.

Years ago pubs served at best a rotten carvery and maybe toasted sandwiches in a bag.

Now they're better and smoke free.

Irish people like to enjoy themselves too much for pubs to disappear entirely.

Jimmy Garlic

HBC08 wrote: »

Yes but they'd have to act as restaraunt,retrain staff,change the layout,organise menus,a booking system etc and then charge €9 for the beans on toast.
Or they wait the 3 weeks til pubs are permitted to open.
What would you do Jimmy?

Cobble together a “restaurant”, packet of nightlights and some napkins should do the trick, promote a staff member to “chef”. Buy a toasted sandwich maker and a large saucepan.

HBC08

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

They are allowed to open as long as they serve food. That could be baked beans on toast or cocktail sausages and peanuts.

Yes but they'd have to act as restaraunt,retrain staff,change the layout,organise menus,a booking system etc and then charge €9 for the beans on toast.
Or they wait the 3 weeks til pubs are permitted to open.
What would you do Jimmy?

Kylta

I think covid has changed the face of lots of things we took for granted. Pubs,(which have social distancing i can't see working nevermind the time allowed in the pub) face masks (on public transport,) shopping (no browsing). I think the future for many businesses will be challenging.

whisky_galore

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Pubs that were dying on their arses anyway and a lot of rural pubs that the gov did absolutely nothing to protect.

Fyp.

mikemac2

The decline has been happening for decades OP

DarTipp

its a bit too early to say this, I certainly hope they will be able to go back to some kind of normality very soon , I live in a small town where the covid 2metre will not suit the majority of them,

Guy:Incognito

frag420 wrote: »

Don’t forget Soros...

and Bill. Hes stolen some of the Soros thunder lately.

Hes the new CT favourite.

[Deleted User]

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

People who were in the twilight of their lives anyway and a lot in nursing homes that the gov did absolutely nothing to protect. Sad yes of course but no reason to sabotage the economy the way they did. The suicide figures alone for this year will make for sobering reading.

Lockdown also protected those with underlying conditions..... If you'd cystic fibrosis you'd not relish a battle with covid19.

If it wasn't for lockdown plenty fat pint swillers would have been killed off too.

Bob Harris

johnb25 wrote: »

Both pubs and gyms will come back when and where they offer what people want.

Drink and work out equipment?

Jimmy Garlic

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Pubs aren't allowed to reopen on the 29th.

Restaurants and cafes are allowed on the 29th. Pubs are 20 July.

They are allowed to open as long as they serve food. That could be baked beans on toast or cocktail sausages and peanuts.

Cienciano

FFS, of all the ridiculous scaremongering stories on AF. Jimmy, did you do zero research? They're not allowed open unless they serve food.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/d06271-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-29-june-phase-3/

Businesses that can reopen
The following may reopen:

cafés and restaurants providing on premises food and beverages
pubs and hotel bars operating as restaurants
hotels, hostels, caravan parks and holiday parks

Here's the one for 20th July, next month:
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/acc4de-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-20-july-phase-4/

The main changes are:

pubs, bars, hotel bars and casinos may reopen
gatherings of up to 100 people indoors and 500 outdoors will be permissible

Bob Harris

PirateShampoo wrote: »

It was finished when they started letting women into the Bar.

It was finished when they made Drink Driving illegal.

It was finished when they banned Smoking.

Between 2005 and 2018 there were 1500 pub closures. Myriad of reasons but the industry is in decline.

[Deleted User]

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Gyms will be closing too so feck all for Mr Healthy to be at either.

Mr healthy can run on the road & resistance train at home.
My kickboxing coach always maintained you could train in a phone box if you had to with no equipment.... An extreme view but a decent viewpoint.

Gyms are reopening BTW for the mostpart.

johnb25

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Gyms will be closing too so feck all for Mr Healthy to be at either.

Both pubs and gyms will come back when and where they offer what people want.

Jimmy Garlic

whisky_galore wrote: »

Strange that "hysteria" killed something like 1700 people here.

People who were in the twilight of their lives anyway and a lot in nursing homes that the gov did absolutely nothing to protect. Sad yes of course but no reason to sabotage the economy the way they did. The suicide figures alone for this year will make for sobering reading.

I told ya

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I know a town where only one out of four is planning to reopen, one already has a for sale sign up. Same story all over the country. Tourist traps will be the only places where there won’t be mass casualties. Only 50% planning to reopen on the 29th. That’s a lot of jobs permanently removed from the economy by bat flu hysteria.

Am I right in saying that a pub can open on 29th only if they serve food?

If that's the case then the pubs that don't serve food can't open. Some pubs that can serve food may take a wait and see approach or wait until all pubs can open.

I think it's too early to call it. It will take a few months.

HBC08

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I know a town where only one out of four is planning to reopen, one already has a for sale sign up. Same story all over the country. Tourist traps will be the only places where there won’t be mass casualties. Only 50% planning to reopen on the 29th. That’s a lot of jobs permanently removed from the economy by bat flu hysteria.

Only 50% opening on the 29th?
That's pretty good,in my town there are about 25 pubs,none are opening on the 29th that I know of.A few(2 i know of)that are restaurant type set ups are opening from the weds/thurs.
One is closed (owner wanted out anyway) and the rest will be opening during pint week from the 20th July on.

Allinall

We can just import pubs from England.

They have loads of them, with real ale pumps and fruit machines and everything.

Only problem is they have different opening hours. We'd adapt fairly quickly though, I reckon.

Mrs OBumble

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I know a town where only one out of four is planning to reopen, one already has a for sale sign up. Same story all over the country. Tourist traps will be the only places where there won’t be mass casualties. Only 50% planning to reopen on the 29th. That’s a lot of jobs permanently removed from the economy by bat flu hysteria.

Pubs aren't allowed to reopen on the 29th.

Restaurants and cafes are allowed on the 29th. Pubs are 20 July.

Atlantic Dawn

Augeo wrote: »

Job losses are never good but less pubs would be net positive for the nation. They are a crutch for many who might find a better use of their time & money going forward.

Gyms will be closing too so feck all for Mr Healthy to be at either.

markfinn

Good.
While it won't do much to improve the current mobs of shambling alcoholics in the country, it will hopefully reduce the time they spend rampaging around the streets when all worthwhile people are trying to sleep, and will reduce the impression being handed to the next generation that this self-destructive and socially destructive behaviour is "cultural", "normal" or "acceptable".