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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Sonrisa

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

This submission someone posted on Twitter regarding the South Mall cycle lane made me laugh. Contradicts himself over and over. Has he seen the width of the road?

Is that an anonymous submission by Ann Doherty? :pac:

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Sonrisa wrote: »

Is that an anonymous submission by Ann Doherty? :pac:

You'd swear Cork was full of high quality cycle lanes, on every street the way he's talking

namloc1980

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

This submission someone posted on Twitter regarding the South Mall cycle lane made me laugh. Contradicts himself over and over. Has he seen the width of the road?

There'll be no loss of road space for traffic on South Mall as a result of this proposal. That person is still more than welcome to sit in their car stuck in traffic for at least "30 minutes" as they put it - but trying to blame cycling for the motor traffic is really scraping the barrel. I'm surprised they didn't throw in the "too wet/hilly" line.

Captainsatnav

namloc1980 wrote: »

There'll be no loss of road space for traffic on South Mall as a result of this proposal. That person is still more than welcome to sit in their car stuck in traffic for at least "30 minutes" as they put it - but trying to blame cycling for the motor traffic is really scraping the barrel. I'm surprised they didn't throw in the "too wet/hilly" line.

There's no need for him to mention it, it's common knowledge it rains nowhere else and all other large towns on the planet are flat. Cork really is unique and nowhere else compares. God's country.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

namloc1980 wrote: »

There'll be no loss of road space for traffic on South Mall as a result of this proposal. That person is still more than welcome to sit in their car stuck in traffic for at least "30 minutes" as they put it - but trying to blame cycling for the motor traffic is really scraping the barrel. I'm surprised they didn't throw in the "too wet/hilly" line.

He's got that covered too... :rolleyes:

fiload

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

He's got that covered too... :rolleyes:

While I don't agree with that twitter points, I don't think these type of comments are constructive. We should focus on the points of a discussion instead of making a point of the person because of their opinions.

opus

Looks like the student accommodation on the Mardyke is close to topping out as the step-back story is being worked on at the moment.

igCorcaigh

Bishop Lucey Park.

I've been visiting it quite it a bit these days to sit and have a coffee and watch the pigeons.

Not to be a moaner, but it has been really uncared for by the Council.

Bins are constantly overflowing, bird sh1t everywhere, the usual unsavoury types hanging around and harassing people, greenery not tended to.

At least I did see two gardai walk through recently, a rare sight.

Should there not be a warden keeping an eye on things? It doesn't feel safe and the shabbiness of it gives a terrible impression to visitors to the city.

OK, I do moan a little bit

SleetAndSnow

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Bishop Lucey Park.

I've been visiting it quite it a bit these days to sit and have a coffee and watch the pigeons.

Not to be a moaner, but it has been really uncared for by the Council.

Bins are constantly overflowing, bird sh1t everywhere, the usual unsavoury types hanging around and harassing people, greenery not tended to.

At least I did see two gardai walk through recently, a rare sight.

Should there not be a warden keeping an eye on things? It doesn't feel safe and the shabbiness of it gives a terrible impression to visitors to the city.

OK, I do moan a little bit

Went there a few weeks ago and said the exact same thing. That place needs to be steamwashed every night, the amount of bird sh1t everywhere is crazy, it's destroyed. For a popular park in the city center and one of the only green places, it's a disgrace

whisky_galore

igCorcaigh wrote: »

At least I did see two gardai walk through recently, a rare sight.

I see the usual worthies have conjured up a Super Duper Cork Garda Street Crime Task Force (with push bikes)

8 guards and a sergeant, for the entire city. Laughable.

snotboogie

Two new cranes gone up in the last week, one on the water treatment plant on the Lee Rd and one on the medical building next to the Victoria Hospital. Remarkably given the economic environment and that the huge project on Penrose Dock is nearing completion, there are 10 cranes in the city now. Likely more to come on the Bandon Rd student and possibly the Square Deal and The Prism if those sites move to actual construction.

Flickerfusion

Bishop Lucy Park is basically the only green space in the city centre and they’re not even able to keep it clean! It’s really not good enough

bingo9999

Exactly, forget the crap looking refurb and just clean and police it, which you'll have to do in the new one anyway

titan18

Flickerfusion wrote: »

Bishop Lucy Park is basically the only green space in the city centre and they’re not even able to keep it clean! It’s really not good enough

I'm amazed people go there instead of just walking out to Fitzgeralds park. It's been filthy for at least 20 years by now.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Coillte have withdrawn their application to build a road through Garryduff Woods / Old Court to facilitate substantial felling.

neddynasty

titan18 wrote: »

I'm amazed people go there instead of just walking out to Fitzgeralds park. It's been filthy for at least 20 years by now.

To many hills in the way and it's always raining too.

the beer revolu

titan18 wrote: »

I'm amazed people go there instead of just walking out to Fitzgeralds park. It's been filthy for at least 20 years by now.

If you have half an hour to spare, in the city centre, you'd use it all up walking to and from Fitzgerald's Park.

namloc1980

Coveney is some man for turning sods

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fonecrusher1

Student apartments at Crows nest site flying up

titan18

the beer revolu wrote: »

If you have half an hour to spare, in the city centre, you'd use it all up walking to and from Fitzgerald's Park.

I'd rather just browse in a shop or sit down in a cafe somewhere than sit in Peace Park tbh. Chance of being crapped on are too high with all those birds there.

Seamai

titan18 wrote: »

I'd rather just browse in a shop or sit down in a cafe somewhere than sit in Peace Park tbh. Chance of being crapped on are too high with all those birds there.

Why do so many people refer to that park as the "Peace Park"? That was never it's name. I appreciate there is a lot of anti church sentiment out there but Bishop Lucey Park is it's name.

igCorcaigh

Seamai wrote: »

Why do so many people refer to that park as the "Peace Park"? That was never it's name. I appreciate there is a lot of anti church sentiment out there but Bishop Lucey Park is it's name.

I know! Peace Park is by Electric.

Seamai

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I know! Peace Park is by Electric.

Yes, correct! if you could call it a park, it's so small. The city centre is badly in need of more green spaces, but short of knocking down a few blocks I'm not sure how we'd solve this.
Bishop Lucey Park isn't much more than an acre, there's barely a blade of grass in much of it as it's so heavily used.

igCorcaigh

Seamai wrote: »

Yes, correct! if you could call it a park, it's so small. The city centre is badly in need of more green spaces, but short of knocking down a few blocks I'm not sure how we'd solve this.
Bishop Lucey Park isn't much more than an acre, there's barely a blade of grass in much of it as it's so heavily used.

Well, I live right next to the Pile of Rubble™ across the river. The rubble has just started to be cleared this week.

Are the plans to build a hotel still going ahead?

MrDerp

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Well, I live right next to the Pile of Rubble™ across the river. The rubble has just started to be cleared this week.

Are the plans to build a hotel still going ahead?

Nah, they need a new yard while they clear the event centre site

rino87

namloc1980 wrote: »

Coveney is some man for turning sods

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The man has never seen a bog in his life! No wonder his turned sods never make it home!

titan18

Seamai wrote: »

Why do so many people refer to that park as the "Peace Park"? That was never it's name. I appreciate there is a lot of anti church sentiment out there but Bishop Lucey Park is it's name.

I always thought it was Peace Park as well. Even if you google Peace Park, it just refers you to Bishop Lucy Park

Dan Dare

Somebody told me that the Church of Ireland donated that plot of land to Cork city, and the Corporation promptly named it after one of the most reactionary bigots in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in the twentieth century. Nice one.

AugustusMinimus

Dan Dare wrote: »

Somebody told me that the Church of Ireland donated that plot of land to Cork city, and the Corporation promptly named it after one of the most reactionary bigots in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in the twentieth century. Nice one.

Wasn’t Bishop Lucey Park previously occupied by a load of buildings which burned down in the 70s and then got turned into a Park? The gates and arch were originally from somewhere down in the docks?

Treehelpplease

From Anglesea Street (or at least the gate was). You can still see some of the original buildings

https://goo.gl/maps/LrJwbDk914XWq595A

It looks like the walls and fences are the same as the original at the Brewery Quarter too so maybe they copied these https://goo.gl/maps/RvqrxU3xaywBfpV79