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Was Dublin better in the 80s?

Macytoby

A taxi driver over the weekend said that it was. Something along the lines of “we didn’t have money, but we had each other” and “the ordinary joe soaps can’t make a living anymore”.

Did he have a point or was he talking through his hole?

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dzsfah2xoynme9

Yeah but wasn't there a heap of drugs and ghettos...

Macytoby

Ali Rough Muddy wrote: »

Yeah but wasn't there a heap of drugs and ghettos...

Sort of like now then?

murpho999

He said normal joe soaps couldn't make a living whilst driving in his de-regulated non closed industry taxi?

No, it's much better now.

Better social scene, shops, restaurants, social conditions, job opportunities, transport, roads, houses.

Look along the river quays as an example, was just run down warehouses in the 80s.

TheValeyard

Macytoby wrote: »

Sort of like now then?

Yeah, but with the bin strikes, problems with the IRA, that 80s recession and Charles Haughey was around.

murpho999

Macytoby wrote: »

Sort of like now then?

Where is there a ghetto in Dublin?

Macytoby

murpho999 wrote: »

Where is there a ghetto in Dublin?

Railway street is pretty much a ghetto except with more drugs.

chrissb8

murpho999 wrote: »

Where is there a ghetto in Dublin?

In his head

ThewhiteJesus

Luke Kelly was still alive

completedit

Not really probably. What makes people happy is a weird thing. We still have the same poxy weather so not sure if it's any different. If H&M and over expensive coffee is what makes a city a cool place to be, then Dublin is killing it.

We always equate the future as better than the past so it makes any conclusions about which time was better hard to decide.

Collie D

It was for my grandparents. They were still alive

matchthis

Everyone knew all their neighbours

mick087

Most people had a Dublin accent in the 80s.
Now most Dubs have this new D4 accent.

JohnnyFlash

It is far better now. It was a rundown kip back in the 80’s. Boarded up shops, lads standing in the doorways of pubs, the pubs were paying protection money to the provos, smog, no where decent to eat etc.

Those true blue Dub sorts always wax lyrical about Dublin in the rare auld times. Sentimental shïtes.

Macytoby

matchthis wrote: »

Everyone knew all there neighbours

Yeah, who cares about tuberculosis when you know your neighbour?

Dubmany

Everywhere in the country was worse in the 80s, you'd probably have to go back to the 50s and before to find a worse decade. Of course this decade isn't looking too good so far with Covid-19.

ThewhiteJesus

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It is far better now. It was a rundown kip back in the 80’s. Boarded up shops, lads standing in the doorways of pubs, the pubs were paying protection money to the provos, smog, no where decent to eat etc.

Those true blue Dub sorts always wax lyrical about Dublin in the rare auld times. Sentimental shïtes.

Haha smog, that was a nightmare in Dublin every night

murpho999

Macytoby wrote: »

Railway street is pretty much a ghetto except with more drugs.

Except that it isn't and also I don't think one street approximately 450 meters long constitutes a ghetto.

murpho999

mick087 wrote: »

Most people had a Dublin accent in the 80s.
Now most Dubs have this new D4 accent.

How can a D4 accent not be a Dublin accent?

murpho999

matchthis wrote: »

Everyone knew all there neighbours

Yes, they met most weeks queuing for the dole money. It was great.

Macytoby

murpho999 wrote: »

Except that it isn't and also I don't think one street approximately 450 meters long constitutes a ghetto.

You could add Sean Macdermott st to the mix of you want.

And it is a ghetto. I used to live there, it’s probably the biggest ****hole in the country.

Darndale is pretty much a Ghetto as well. You could argue Joblesstown is as well.

mick087

murpho999 wrote: »

How can a D4 accent not be a Dublin accent?

Who said it wasnt a Dublin accent?

murpho999

Macytoby wrote: »

You could add Sean Macdermott st to the mix of you want.

And it is a ghetto. I used to live there, it’s probably the biggest ****hole in the country.

Darndale is pretty much a Ghetto as well. You could argue Joblesstown is as well.

So according to you disadvantaged areas are ghettos?

They were also disadvantaged in the 80s so is nothing to with Dublin being better or not.

Class MayDresser

Better now imo. Back then you'd wheel down the window and do a glugger into the Liffey, nowadays you can hock one out the window nobody gives a shiite.

banie01

Tell said Taxi Driver and any other dope afflicted with the good old days nostalgia, to cop the fúck on!

They can start here.
https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-crime-state-papers-2494610-Dec2015/

Then read into the reports such as the Report on Crime 1984, that show Gardai as swamped and ineffective whilst our own criminal and paramilitary elements ran fairly rampant.

Joyriding alone was endemic, glue sniffing, and a while host of other minor anti social criminal activities that would leave those moaning about certain out of control youth elements tearing at their breast.

Ireland has come a very long way and is a far, far safer country now than it was even 20 years ago.

Some people tend to think their younger years were times of safety and plenty.

There is far more instant and changeable news nowadays, 24hr news here in the 80's would have involved moving statue montages and burnt out cars surrounded by sniffers :pac:

Think Eastern Bloc Europe, but with great English and pubs

smelly sock

Macytoby wrote: »

You could add Sean Macdermott st to the mix of you want.

And it is a ghetto. I used to live there, it’s probably the biggest ****hole in the country.

Darndale is pretty much a Ghetto as well. You could argue Joblesstown is as well.

Generalisations.

I have good mates from Jobstown, Dublin 8 and in and around Sheriff st. Sound lads and hard working, certainly don't have the narrow minded personality you obviously have.

I despise that toxic attitude a lot of people in Ireland have. Thinking its ok to label cetain areas and all the people that love there.

Macytoby

murpho999 wrote: »

So according to you disadvantaged areas are ghettos?

They were also disadvantaged in the 80s so is nothing to with Dublin being better or not.

Disadvantaged is a very polite term. I always used that term until I moved to railway street. Now I realised that by and large, the locals don’t give a toss about the economy, the environment, the local area or anything outside of themselves.

Macytoby

smelly sock wrote: »

Generalisations.

I have good mates from Jobstown, Dublin 8 and in and around Sheriff st. Sound lads and hard working, certainly don't have the narrow minded personality you obviously have.

I despise that toxic attitude a lot of people in Ireland have. Thinking its ok to label cetain areas and all the people that love there.

Like I said, I’m not snobby. I moved to Railway St with an open mind. The things that I’ve seen and experienced there have completely changed my attitude. Sure there are people who work hard from these areas, but they generally leave.

Dubmany

Macytoby wrote: »

Yeah, who cares about tuberculosis when you know your neighbour?

You're thinking of the 50s, TB was well under control in the 80s, in fact there's probably more TB around today than in the 80s.
Btw, the 50s was always considered the worse decade by the older generations. Proportionally probably more emigration than the 80s and largely uneducated emigrants going to work in low skilled jobs in the UK. At least in the 80s the emigrants we're usually highly educated and got good jobs abroad and many returned to good jobs here in the 90s when the economy took off.

mick087

banie01 wrote: »

Tell said Taxi Driver and any other dope afflicted with the good old days nostalgia, to cop the fúck on!

:pac: Great line im gonna use that one myself :pac:

satguy

Back then,, a working couple could buy a really nice house,, and run a very nice car.

Now you can't even get on the property ladder,, and all your money goes on rent, and bills.