KiKi III wrote: » An anecdote here and an anecdote there about false rape allegations doesn’t change the facts: while they happen, they are very rare. It is much more common for a man to commit rape and get away with it than for a woman to falsify an allegation. All the data points to this. Men just don’t want to believe it’s true.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Where is the party named?
KiKi III wrote: » You just criticised her for not speaking up to protect future victims. You have not criticised him AT ALL.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Ppl are already speculating who it could be One name on Twitter chimes with rumors I have heard. Has a “Ultra PC” woke image but reality might be v different
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Let’s be clear I’m not AT ALL critical of her.
RandomViewer wrote: » We have the party, older member, if we get hair colour or lack of it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out
KiKi III wrote: » And it doesn’t strike you as odd that your moral compass has you being more critical of her than him?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Trial by social media is a shocking thing to witness.
jimwallace197 wrote: » I am very educated on that matter thank you very much and I dont need to read bull**** reports from police departments that have a long history of convicting innocent men on false accusations of rape in a country a long distance away from ours. Link the reports in your next post and I will gladly contradict them.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » She has information that could warn future potential victims of his past form???? Yet she stubbornly won’t say his identity?
KiKi III wrote: » You think his future assaults are his previous prey’s fault?
Beechwoodspark wrote: » She is adamant she won’t name this guy - so she is empowering him to do this at Will into the future ??
Gruffalox wrote: » Okay. Wrong side of the line again from me! Why the hell was he not wearing his dinner 2 seconds later? It was a public setting, she was in her 20s. And before anyone says I dont understand. I do. I know the difference between being helpless when assaulted and being safe to be able to bawl someone out of it. When I was 18 a senior politician dragged me onto his lap at a dinner party - I would say his ears are still ringing from the instant bollocking I gave him. Fathers, raise your girls to be ferocious. Mine did.
Wibbs wrote: » I don't believe anyone without proof and a tweet doesn't cut it. That's why we invented laws and courts of law. Anything else is mob rule.
KiKi III wrote: » Read the FBI and LAPD studies on the matter. I am basing my opinion on data from widely respected police departments. You are basing yours on nothing other than your own thoughts plucked from the air. So I would respectfully ask you to better educate yourself on the topic before weighing in again.
Eric Cartman wrote: » the fact its on twitter and not with the gardai I'm hearing about it already sets believability around 25% in my book.
jimwallace197 wrote: » The stats for false rape accusations are incredibly low!!! How do you know that? Unless you have proper evidence that men accused and sometimes those who have been unfortunately convicted as a result of false accusations were done so as a way of a false accusation of rape, then we have no way of knowing. Truth of the matter is, there are many men in prison I have no doubt as a result of a false accusation of rape, look at the amount of men freed in modern times as a result of dna evidence coming to light from false convictions of rape. Also, how likely is a woman to admit she made up the accusation if she is looking at possible jail time herself, not likely. And also, its highly unlikely the prosecution and their respective offices would want to look like complete idiots either so no doubt about it, there will be an element of coercion on their part. If a woman has been raped, report it to the relevant authorities, be consistent in what you are saying and no doubt you will see justice in these metoo times.
KiKi III wrote: » I was assaulted a number of times by different men between the ages of 13 and 22. I’m 32 now and pushed it all down and forgot about it for years. But the last few years have really brought it all back. Between the Belfast rape trial and the Repeal campaign people were talking about rape non-stop for six months in 2018. Reading some of the online commentary really brought it back up. The Brett Kavanaugh confirmation showed me that even though I remember the assaults vividly, the fact that I can’t remember what the weather was like that day or exactly how many drinks I had at a party half a lifetime ago meant I would be ripped apart. As #SpeakingOut started trending again over the weekend and I read other women’s stories I started feeling really depressed again, I called the DRCC even though it felt a little dramatic to do that 10 years later and I’m going to go there for some counselling. My inclination is to believe women, because I know the stats for false rape allegations are incredibly low (look up the studies done by the FBI and LAPD) and because they tally with my own life experiences.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » I'm not calling her a liar, I'm just not jumping on the old accusations = guilty bandwagon
KiKi III wrote: » How do you prove it though? If one party says it was consensual and the other says it wasn’t. Even when there’s evidence of violence the guy says “yeah, we had rough sex, she wanted it.” Short of CCTV, what evidence would satisfy you beyond a reasonable doubt?
