KiKi III wrote: » And I’m grateful that the few friends and boyfriends I’ve told have believed me, because why would I make it up?
KiKi III wrote: » Same. I see absolutely no point in reporting the times I’ve been assaulted to the Gardaí. That does not mean they didn’t happen. And I’m grateful that the few friends and boyfriends I’ve told have believed me, because why would I make it up?
coinop wrote: » I’m in no way claiming you made up your assaults but I think it’s quite obvious why some women would do so: they want attention. Social media has a strange hold on people, particularly young women. A recent study stated Irish women are the most depressed in Europe. They feel worthless without the constant stream of internet likes and validation pouring in.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Well, exactly. Relating events like that are at best really embarrassing and at worst traumatic. Not exactly something you’d say for the craic. The first person I told was my husband, 16 years after the event took place. Like I said, I really was okay after the assault because it was non-violent (but still unambiguously sexual assault. Fingers were inserted) but it just kinda came up one night. Sometimes there will be a catalyst to relating an event in your life and that can be many years later.
KiKi III wrote: » What if there is no proof? Hypothetical: Let’s say I was raped a year ago and only able to come forward now due to the trauma. There is no physical evidence now. No proof, as such. But in this hypothetical scenario the rape absolutely definitely happened. You want proof but there isn’t any. It’s my word against his. Should I be allowed to speak out? Name my rapist to the Gardaí? To my own friends?Or do I have to put up and shut up forever because I didn’t have the strength to report there and then?
tipptom wrote: » There could be any amount of reasons why people make up accusations like this. Could be attention seeking,could be the first subtle hint at the politician that if money isnt handed over there will be more revealing publicity,could be blackmail for access to power or favours,could be just for followers.
KiKi III wrote: » If she was attention seeking she’d make up a better story than an unnamed politician ran his hand up my leg years ago. You seem to think very little of young women based on the post above.
oyvey wrote: » Not 'put up and shut'. You'd be entitled to wait as long as you'd want/need to, but surely you can understand that the longer you wait the harder it gets to prove these things.
Some small case studies have suggested that, of all the people who report to accident and emergency (A&E) departments with claims that their drink has been spiked, very few test positive for an unknown substance.https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/az/d/date-rape-drugs/incidence-of-drink-spiking.html
jrosen wrote: » Accusations played out on social media I take with a pinch of salt. Generally though I tend not to believe anything without proof.
coinop wrote: » Tell the girl that and be prepared to get called every name under the sun. Possibly they will contact your employer in an attempt to get you fired, drag your name in the mud. The only acceptable response to the cult is “I believe you” complete with heart emoji.
KiKi III wrote: » That’s so f**ked up. If you said, until the guards are involved I would reserve my opinion, that would be fair. Assuming anyone who hasn’t gone to the guards is a liar is horrendous.
KiKi III wrote: » What if there is no proof? Hypothetical: Let’s say I was raped a year ago and only able to come forward now due to the trauma. There is no physical evidence now. No proof, as such. But in this hypothetical scenario the rape absolutely definitely happened. You want proof but there isn’t any. It’s my word against his. Should I be allowed to speak out? Name my rapist to the Gardaí? To my own friends? Or do I have to put up and shut up forever because I didn’t have the strength to report there and then?
jimwallace197 wrote: » Get up the yard with your nonsense, so traumatized that you couldn't report it for a year. And you are an adult female in these metoo times. The problem with that way of thinking is that it opens up the floodgates for any scorned ex girlfriend/lover of a male to come forward and attempt to destroy a mans life if she is bitter about him moving on, happy with someone else. And yes, this does happen. Far too common nowadays. Giving any sex the freedom to make allegations against the other without proper proof and proper procedure whilst destroying the other persons life is a dangerous precedent to set.
KiKi III wrote: » How do you prove it though? If one party says it was consensual and the other says it wasn’t. Even when there’s evidence of violence the guy says “yeah, we had rough sex, she wanted it.” Short of CCTV, what evidence would satisfy you beyond a reasonable doubt?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » I'm not calling her a liar, I'm just not jumping on the old accusations = guilty bandwagon
KiKi III wrote: » I was assaulted a number of times by different men between the ages of 13 and 22. I’m 32 now and pushed it all down and forgot about it for years. But the last few years have really brought it all back. Between the Belfast rape trial and the Repeal campaign people were talking about rape non-stop for six months in 2018. Reading some of the online commentary really brought it back up. The Brett Kavanaugh confirmation showed me that even though I remember the assaults vividly, the fact that I can’t remember what the weather was like that day or exactly how many drinks I had at a party half a lifetime ago meant I would be ripped apart. As #SpeakingOut started trending again over the weekend and I read other women’s stories I started feeling really depressed again, I called the DRCC even though it felt a little dramatic to do that 10 years later and I’m going to go there for some counselling. My inclination is to believe women, because I know the stats for false rape allegations are incredibly low (look up the studies done by the FBI and LAPD) and because they tally with my own life experiences.
jimwallace197 wrote: » The stats for false rape accusations are incredibly low!!! How do you know that? Unless you have proper evidence that men accused and sometimes those who have been unfortunately convicted as a result of false accusations were done so as a way of a false accusation of rape, then we have no way of knowing. Truth of the matter is, there are many men in prison I have no doubt as a result of a false accusation of rape, look at the amount of men freed in modern times as a result of dna evidence coming to light from false convictions of rape. Also, how likely is a woman to admit she made up the accusation if she is looking at possible jail time herself, not likely. And also, its highly unlikely the prosecution and their respective offices would want to look like complete idiots either so no doubt about it, there will be an element of coercion on their part. If a woman has been raped, report it to the relevant authorities, be consistent in what you are saying and no doubt you will see justice in these metoo times.
Eric Cartman wrote: » the fact its on twitter and not with the gardai I'm hearing about it already sets believability around 25% in my book.
KiKi III wrote: » Read the FBI and LAPD studies on the matter. I am basing my opinion on data from widely respected police departments. You are basing yours on nothing other than your own thoughts plucked from the air. So I would respectfully ask you to better educate yourself on the topic before weighing in again.
Wibbs wrote: » I don't believe anyone without proof and a tweet doesn't cut it. That's why we invented laws and courts of law. Anything else is mob rule.
