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FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

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It seems FG will be very happy to just sit on their hands for 5 years. Would FG voters be happy with this, as it means all those FG votes mean nothing, and do nothing.

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

FG may have given some of their rich buddies some tax breaks.

But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.

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FrancieBrady

Mortelaro wrote: »

I'd say you also follow a cross section of the most vociferous Mal contents you can find is the impression I get

That would be you just assuming stuff again. I don't know how many times I have to say it, if you are not aiming for a cross section of all opinion...that you agree with or don't agree with...then you are doing it wrong and creating a bubble.

I follow about a fifth of the people who follow me,some news outlets,scientific and economic interests and a few T.D's including the party leaders
Twitter is a bubble medium period

Again, not if you use it properly.

For instance not 'assuming stuff' about people when you haven't a clue what they do or don't do is a good start. Which is what you just did here.

James Brown

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I love how angry these innocuous quotes make some people. Pouring over his speech looking for something to be angry about.

Angry? He's making a laughingstock of himself

Maybe a little embarrassed for the country.
I expect lines from the Take That reunion press conference if this cartel goes ahead.

I'm amused at how some chime in to claim people are bitter and angry because they point out the emperor has no clothes...or integrity.

James Brown

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That would be you just assuming stuff again. I don't know how many times I have to say it, if you are not aiming for a cross section of all opinion...that you agree with or don't agree with...then you are doing it wrong and creating a bubble.

Again, not if you use it properly.

For instance not 'assuming stuff' about people when you haven't a clue what they do or don't do is a good start. Which is what you just did here.

It's simply a case of FG not liking it or accepting it when the public is critical of them. It's the people that are wrong, it's the medium etc. Then we've the insults and low brow derogatory labels all because the party can't take just criticism on the chin or election results They choose to turn on the public rather than look at themselves. It's a very Trump tactic to pick a few random tweets and talk like they are part of some grand conspiracy. Its Twitter that's the problem, the fake media.

You can see it in their blind refusal to discuss Ireland's Call were about 70,000 applied and only 111 were recruited and through some private agency. These were good people trying to help out. The unions were okay with HSE workers volunteering in private hospitals. A heartless PR stunt from FG.
You can also see it in other areas. Varadkar using lifted speech content or the silence when FG councillor O'Leary admired the fascist blue shirts.
Twitter and Facebook give individuals a platform. Individuals can be good or bad. It's pretty simple.

Mortelaro

Bowie wrote: »

It's simply a case of FG not liking it or accepting it when the public is critical of them. It's the people that are wrong,.

That doesn't fit in with Vradakar's initial reaction to the result,the willingness to go into opposition
Normally it's the people in denial that go on and on and on about how they should be in government when they're only a quarter of the electorate

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That would be you just assuming stuff again. I don't know how many times I have to say it, if you are not aiming for a cross section of all opinion...that you agree with or don't agree with...then you are doing it wrong and creating a bubble.

Again, not if you use it properly.

For instance not 'assuming stuff' about people when you haven't a clue what they do or don't do is a good start. Which is what you just did here.

Now that's just balderdash
Theres plenty cranks on this site to last anyone a lifetime without looking for them elsewhere
You may need more sources, but to each their own
As regards my opinion formed from what you post here,Obviously I don't expect you to agree with it
Obviously!

FrancieBrady

Mortelaro wrote: »

Now that's just balderdash
Theres plenty cranks on this site to last anyone a lifetime without looking for them elsewhere
You may need more sources, but to each their own
As regards my opinion formed from what you post here,Obviously I don't expect you to agree with it
Obviously!

You are proving me correct with every reply.

Any counter opinion is from 'cranks'.

Typical statement from somebody living in a bubble.

Sure there are 'cranks' but the tweet posted here that we are discussing is not from one. It is from somebody as dismayed as me and many others that a Taoiseach would be taking bets on wedging an innocuous meaningless cliché into a serious broadcast.

FrancieBrady

Bowie wrote: »

It's simply a case of FG not liking it or accepting it when the public is critical of them. It's the people that are wrong, it's the medium etc. Then we've the insults and low brow derogatory labels all because the party can't take just criticism on the chin or election results They choose to turn on the public rather than look at themselves. It's a very Trump tactic to pick a few random tweets and talk like they are part of some grand conspiracy. Its Twitter that's the problem, the fake media.

You can see it in their blind refusal to discuss Ireland's Call were about 70,000 applied and only 111 were recruited and through some private agency. These were good people trying to help out. The unions were okay with HSE workers volunteering in private hospitals. A heartless PR stunt from FG.
You can also see it in other areas. Varadkar using lifted speech content or the silence when FG councillor O'Leary admired the fascist blue shirts.
Twitter and Facebook give individuals a platform. Individuals can be good or bad. It's pretty simple.

Excellent post Bowie...that Mortelaro has just proved a section of it, is proof that you are spot on.

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are proving me correct with every reply.

Any counter opinion is from 'cranks'.

Typical statement from somebody living in a bubble.

Sure there are 'cranks' but the tweet posted here that we are discussing is not from one. It is from somebody as dismayed as me and many others that a Taoiseach would be taking bets on wedging an innocuous meaningless cliché into a serious broadcast.

A minute ago you were giving out about me 'assuming'
Now you're assuming that I think any counter opinion ' is from a crank

You don't half go out of the way to make yourself look to me like one
No one is terribly worried about the'mean girls' references other than cranks and people that like the sound of their own voices,that much I'm sure of

FrancieBrady

Mortelaro wrote: »

A minute ago you were giving out about me 'assuming'
Now you're assuming that I think any counter opinion ' is from a crank

You don't half go out of the way to make yourself look to me like one
No one is terribly worried about the'mean girls' references other than cranks and people that like the sound of their own voices,that much I'm sure of

As I said at the outset of this..it is no big deal, but it just feeds into the view that Varadkar is a detached, cold and aloof person, more interested in image than anything that impacts on ordinary people.

What is more interesting in my view is the absolute disregard shown here by FG supporters.

Bowie is spot on in his analysis. Calling any opinion you don't like as from a 'crank' is easy, lazy and ultimately revealing.

blanch152

McMurphy wrote: »

Not outraged in the slightest bishop, but when you read the tweet, thousands dead hundreds of thousands out of work etc, it's not the time and place for a piss take quote from a chickflick movie.

I could imagine you getting your beige y-fronts in a right old twist had Mary Lou McDonald or someone else from the Shinners drop a movie line from the spice girls movie while speaking about the victim's of the troubles.

But but but. Coming up.

Some people need to get over themselves.

What sort of preciousness do they carry around in real life if they are getting excited by quotes from movies in speeches by the Taoiseach?

They really need to get a grip. Would they prefer Johnson or Trump? It is a level of silly pettiness beyond anything seen before. Next they will be complaining about his choice of beer or t-shirt. Pathetic drivel, but we are on boards.

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

It's simply a case of FG not liking it or accepting it when the public is critical of them. It's the people that are wrong, it's the medium etc. Then we've the insults and low brow derogatory labels all because the party can't take just criticism on the chin or election results They choose to turn on the public rather than look at themselves. It's a very Trump tactic to pick a few random tweets and talk like they are part of some grand conspiracy. Its Twitter that's the problem, the fake media.

You can see it in their blind refusal to discuss Ireland's Call were about 70,000 applied and only 111 were recruited and through some private agency. These were good people trying to help out. The unions were okay with HSE workers volunteering in private hospitals. A heartless PR stunt from FG.
You can also see it in other areas. Varadkar using lifted speech content or the silence when FG councillor O'Leary admired the fascist blue shirts.
Twitter and Facebook give individuals a platform. Individuals can be good or bad. It's pretty simple.

Who really cares about quoting from Lord of the Rings?

Nobody I know in real life, and apart from yourself, Francie and McMurphy, the permanently outraged as I sometimes think of you, nobody on here either.

You are also right about the Trump tactic, it sometimes seems that posters on here search the deepest recesses of Twitter to find something critical of Varadkar and drag it out from under its rock as if it means something.

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

As I said at the outset of this..it is no big deal, but it just feeds into the view that Varadkar is a detached, cold and aloof person, more interested in image than anything that impacts on ordinary people.

What is more interesting in my view is the absolute disregard shown here by FG supporters.

Bowie is spot on in his analysis. Calling any opinion you don't like as from a 'crank' is easy, lazy and ultimately revealing.

Lol at the notion that a person who has a bit of craic with his speech is detached cold and aloof
LoL
Textbook crankery

FrancieBrady

Mortelaro wrote: »

Lol at the notion that a person who has a bit of craic with his speech is detached cold and aloof
LoL
Textbook crankery

What, are you now withdrawing into the bubble and pretending he doesn't have a reputation for being cold and aloof?

What he has done here, to the office of An Taoiseach, is to trivialise it. Whenever he has to broadcast again, we will first have to check if he is sincere in what he says or is he trying to win a bet.

PR and attempting to ingratiate himself with the celebrity set (remember Kylie anyone) is what he will be known for.

Much as I detest Michael Martin and his sleeveenism, I don't think he would trivialise the office in that way.

Bishop of hope

McMurphy wrote: »

Not outraged in the slightest bishop, but when you read the tweet, thousands dead hundreds of thousands out of work etc, it's not the time and place for a piss take quote from a chickflick movie.

I could imagine you getting your beige y-fronts in a right old twist had Mary Lou McDonald or someone else from the Shinners drop a movie line from the spice girls movie while speaking about the victim's of the troubles.

But but but. Coming up.

I don't wear the same, type of underwear as you,
But but but.

Childish in the extreme Mc.

[Deleted User]

Mortelaro wrote: »

Lol at the notion that a person who has a bit of craic with his speech is detached cold and aloof
LoL
Textbook crankery

Tbf varadkar is generally viewed as someone who thinks doing his job is beneath him

Like its kinda where the poshboy meme comes from.......

your free to.attach label.of crankery to anyone who disagrees with you,but it is somewhat of a poor insulation from constructive critism

(bear in mind,such arrogance and dismissive attitude cost em last election though and seems same old habits are returning with rising poll numbers)

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What, are you now withdrawing into the bubble and pretending he doesn't have a reputation for being cold and aloof?

What he has done here, to the office of An Taoiseach, is to trivialise it. Whenever he has to broadcast again, we will first have to check if he is sincere in what he says or is he trying to win a bet.

PR and attempting to ingratiate himself with the celebrity set (remember Kylie anyone) is what he will be known for.

Much as I detest Michael Martin and his sleeveenism, I don't think he would trivialise the office in that way.

Another interesting faux outrage missalette
I won't print it out, to save paper
Being green is important to me

FrancieBrady

Mortelaro wrote: »

Another interesting faux outrage missalette
I won't print it out, to save paper
Being green is important to me

You prove the point with every post.

You cannot get a better example of undying, uncritical support IMO.

Carry on Mort.

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You prove the point with every post.

You cannot get a better example of undying, uncritical support IMO.

Carry on Mort.

I think you're worried
Why aren't you out canvassing if all this is so crucial to you?

RandomViewer

Mortelaro wrote: »

Lol at the notion that a person who has a bit of craic with his speech is detached cold and aloof
LoL
Textbook crankery

I'm sure all the people who lost family members in the nursing homes think he's hilarious,

Mortelaro

RandomViewer wrote: »

I'm sure all the people who lost family members in the nursing homes think he's hilarious,

you dont lose your sense of humour when you lose someone

efanton

Mortelaro wrote: »

I think you're worried
Why aren't you out canvassing if all this is so crucial to you?

Canvassing in the middle of a virus pandemic is ok with you?

So you would have no problem with there being another election if the coalition vote fails?

RandomViewer

Mortelaro wrote: »

you dont lose your sense of humour when you lose someone

You might if you listened to his first Covid speech, the one where he quoted Sarah Connor.

Mortelaro

efanton wrote: »

Canvassing in the middle of a virus pandemic is ok with you?

So you would have no problem with there being another election if the coalition vote fails?

Phone canvassing?

RandomViewer wrote: »

You might if you listened to his first Covid speech, the one where he quoted Sarah Connor.

Yeah Right..

efanton

Mortelaro wrote: »

Phone canvassing?

You do know there a data protection rules against unsolicited phone calls?
Any political party that engaged in blind canvassing via a phone would be in hot water pronto.

Mortelaro

efanton wrote: »

You do know there a data protection rules against unsolicited phone calls?
Any political party that engaged in blind canvassing via a phone would be in hot water pronto.

I didnt,perhaps letters then?

McMurphy

Bishop of hope wrote: »

I don't wear the same, type of underwear as you,
But but but.

Childish in the extreme Mc.

No rebuttal at all, and for by that, uses a "I know you are but what am I" retort, and tops if off with accusations of childish behaviour.

It was a fair enough analogy, if ever Pearse Doherty or Mary Lou McDonald uses a quote from a teenage chick flick movie when making a statement about thousands of people dying you'd be up in arms, and I'd be behind you in the queue.

Btw, a wet week ago you thought it was hilarious when it was revealed that Leo's speech had a line lifted directly from a hobbits line in a movie, you have shifted your view that anyone pointing out these movie lines are potentially misplaced and inappropriate given the context is just whinging.

You're trying too hard to be all things to all people bish, but the bias keeps oozing out of you all too easily.

Mortelaro wrote: »

You've made my point for me in your last sentence
It's very easy to trawl the internet, especially twitter to find vindication for whatever angst you want

Another poster who doesn't understand how twitter works.

smurgen

Mortelaro wrote: »

you dont lose your sense of humour when you lose someone

We could forgive him if he was funny. He’s not funny so the issue is it comes off as obnoxious. Best he leaves levity to people who have the tactfulness to to do it.

Mortelaro

smurgen wrote: »

We could forgive him if he was funny. He’s not funny so the issue is it comes off as obnoxious. Best he leaves levity to people who have the tactfulness to to do it.

I'm glad it's not left to your posts anyway,we'd all have to go on anti depressants and retire our laughing muscles

McMurphy wrote: »

Another poster who doesn't understand how twitter works.

Yes you're better at the comedy

Bishop of hope

McMurphy wrote: »

No rebuttal at all, and for by that, uses a "I know you are but what am I" retort, and tops if off with accusations of childish behaviour.

It was a fair enough analogy, if ever Pearse Doherty or Mary Lou McDonald uses a quote from a teenage chick flick movie when making a statement about thousands of people dying you'd be up in arms, and I'd be behind you in the queue.

Btw, a wet week ago you thought it was hilarious when it was revealed that Leo's speech had a line lifted directly from a hobbits line in a movie, you have shifted your view that anyone pointing out these movie lines are potentially misplaced and inappropriate given the context is just whinging.

You're trying too hard to be all things to all people bish, but the bias keeps oozing out of you all too easily.

Another poster who doesn't understand how twitter works.

Not in shock horror Faux outrage about it, it's funny yes.
I cant see how anybody can be outraged by it frankly and it shows a clear lack of anything else to whinge about or else whinge about everything.
It's hardly the same as using the N word or up da ra like, is it?

Podge_irl

Deleted User wrote: »

Tbf varadkar is generally viewed as someone who thinks doing his job is beneath him

He is generally viewed as thinking leading the country is beneath him? Not entirely convinced that is based on anything whatsoever.