Thelonious Monk wrote: » So something causing zero problems at all, in fact it's contributing to people's health and making our towns and cities cleaner places and helping with congestion, needs to be tackled urgently by the authorities? Why do you let people cycling on footpaths get to you? I hope you're ok though, it's sounds so traumatic what you've been through on what sound like terrifying footpaths.
boardise wrote: » Could I not be injured , lose my footing and hit my head , be thrown out on to the road.? I fail to see how you or anybody can make light of this issue and dismiss it so cavalierly. It's not just discourteous - it's downright dangerous. .
magicbastarder wrote: » Definitely call the gardai if they're flashing at you as well as cycling in the footpath.
boardise wrote: » No problem . I might contribute again if I survive the appalling behaviour of cyclists I see everyday .
boardise wrote: » Are you being serious -why would I not be concerned and annoyed that without any warning a cyclist can fly past me from behind on a footpath -which has been a regular occurrence. Could I not be injured , lose my footing and hit my head , be thrown out on to the road.? I fail to see how you or anybody can make light of this issue and dismiss it so cavalierly. It's not just discourteous - it's downright dangerous. But I have to say now , having seen the calibre of some of the posts from the 'cycling lobby' on this thread -I can see where the boorish and anti-social behaviour emanates from.
ecoli3136 wrote: » Cycling on pavements has become an absolute blight around me (Dublin, supposedly "respectable" if not outright "well-to-do" area). They do it whether or not there are cycle lanes, at a decent clip, and rely on pedestrians getting out of their way to avoid collisions. Just no regard for anyone else. I'd love to say I am sure they're the small minority giving others a bad name but that is not my impression. Anyway, nothing will be done about it. It's just a symptom of widespread deterioration in manners and decent behaviour.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do the 98% of drivers that break urban speed limits give the other 2% of good drivers a bad name too?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Yes but you weren't injured! I'm sick hearing these stories of how cyclists could have killed or hurt people. That just doesn't happen. Show me the statistics for this? There have been 2 cases or something in the last 10 or 20 years where a cyclists and pedestrian were in an accident, and any time this comes up it is the only incidents people can ever find on the internet when people are going on about how dangerous cyclists are. They are not dangerous and no one harmed you, so chill out.
SeanW wrote: » Pedestrians in our major cities learn early that they'll have to negotiate with two-wheeled lawbreakers. That's why you don't have more death and injury. We are usually able to avoid you. That doesn't make cyclists paragons of virtue. Just two-wheeled hypocrisy.
SeanW wrote: » Wait for the "but, but, but ... whatbaout, whatabout, whatabout, whatabout evil lawbreaking motorists." This might not take long. BOOM! 6 minutes that must a personal record for near-immediate deflection :rolleyes:Pedestrians in our major cities learn early that they'll have to negotiate with two-wheeled lawbreakers. That's why you don't have more death and injury. We are usually able to avoid you. That doesn't make cyclists paragons of virtue. Just two-wheeled hypocrisy.
SeanW wrote: » how horrible motorists are for lawbreaking :rolleyes: and how motorists need to be subject to a whole load of absurd new regulations, because, reasons.
SeanW wrote: » I've had to jump out of the red light jumping cyclists on more than one occasion. I've also learned to "negotiate" with lawbreakers at junctions, on footways etc. And then I come home to read on Boards or social media to read from cyclists about how horrible motorists are for lawbreaking :rolleyes: and how motorists need to be subject to a whole load of absurd new regulations, because, reasons.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Because they're killing people every week, Einstein. In the most horrific way imaginable.
Cyclists and pedestrians are not harming anyone.
SeanW wrote: » At among the lowest rates of any country in the world. Ireland is comfortably in the bottom 20 for road fatalities by every relative measure.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate If Irish drivers were uniquely horrible and deserving of all the opprobrium, our road fatality statistics would bear that out. They don't. Neither do, by far, the vast, vast, majority of motorists. But hey, keep up the hypocrisy.
SeanW wrote: » Where is this Trump school of statistics? Do they teach students how Irish road fatality figures are among the lowest in the world, provably so, by every relative measure?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Yep, and it causes zero problems. Just annoys a few motorists, and that makes me kind of happy. So let's carry on as is.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » They are not dangerous and no one harmed you, so chill out.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » I work in the city centre of Dublin, well I did until covid, and bicycles on footpaths have never been an issue for me. I've never had to avoid any. That's why we don't have more death and injury... ok so you are a troll, get a life ffs.
TaurenDruid wrote: » And pedestrians. And other cyclists. But whatevs, you've already said you pretty much don't care about the law being broken as long as nobody is killed, so that's grand, eh.
LeinsterDub wrote: » Well good news so you've about as much chance of winning the lotto as being injured by a cyclist
Spook_ie wrote: » Being killed being equivalent to winning the jackpot, being injured equivalent to a lesser win, nice to know how you rate injuries caused by cyclists, what prize level is a broken bone, bruising or lacerations, perhaps a near miss will count as a free ticket to the next draw.
LeinsterDub wrote: » You are aware of statistics right?
Pinch Flat wrote: » Got to laugh at the posters on here that get so triggered by cyclists and can't imagine life outside the tin can. Try it yourself. Get a bike. Get a bike for the other half. Bring the kids along. Enjoy.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » So if it's not a big deal that a few people die every week on our roads, and it doesn't bother you and you don't think anything should be done about it, why do people on footpaths bother you, when there's no proof that they are harming anyone?
Spook_ie wrote: » I'm not the one saying I have more chance of winning the lottery
LeinsterDub wrote: » You are aware of statistics right? We all know that you know that's not what I said. So why don't you drop the pretense?
Originally Posted by LeinsterDub View Post Well good news so you've about as much chance of winning the lotto as being injured by a cyclist
SeanW wrote: » This may come as a shock but most of us do actually spend time outside our "tin can" cars. Most of us are also routine pedestrians. As pedestrians on the streets/footpaths, we have get the F@#% out of your way, or else. Online, we have to read to heaps of bile and opprobrium for having the temerity to drive a car. Where should I start? Maybe it could be that every time a pedestrian has come onto this thread to share their experiences dealing with cyclists, one of you has almost immediately jumped down their throat with: BuT MoToRiStS AnD MuH SpEeD LiMiTs!!!! In a recent case, it took Andy only 6 minutes to jump down a pedestrians' throat with his usual whataboutery. Beyond that, it's 3 things:That the bile and opprobrium is not just unwarranted, according to the evidence, but that the data pretty conclusively refutes the bullcrap emanating from Andy and his circlejerk. That a pedestrian cannot even share stories of things that MOTORISTS do that threaten pedestrians - if they don't involve speed - because these things contradict the facile, single-minded narrative of "BUT MOTORISTS ARE KILLING EVERYBODY BY PLAYING ZOOM ZOOM!" The fact that the people talking trash about Irish motorists and accusing people of lawbreaking are singularly, and in the most spectacular fashion imaginable, wholly and completely unqualified to accuse ANYONE of lawbreaking. Seriously, the absolute hypocrisy of an Irish cyclist accusing anyone of lawbreaking is mind-blowingly spectacular.
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