locum-motion wrote: » You made it painfully obvious in your previous thread that you have nothing but contempt for pharmacists, despite not having a phucking clue what we do. Just go away. You’re only trolling.
Water John wrote: » You think physio is easier work than pharamacy?
Water John wrote: » Not sure and will check, but I thought the dictat that pharma placements couldn't be paid was reconsidered. Have a family member doing it so, it affects me financially.
Water John wrote: » In fairness a family member did accounting and was paid a reasonable amount, €200/week. Not one of the famous five though.
Water John wrote: » Yeah. Don't know what the five offer but they are though to work for. If you go with them after college, all except EY don't give you any time off to study for your exams. The argument being made about pharmacy was, that the pharmacist was evaluating your work placement and paying the student would compromise that. Load of bollocks.
Mjolnir wrote: » I know someone that works in their local pharmacists part time. Physio has a lot of obstacles when going private, you start out no one knows you and you'll have a low client base. You'll also spend your days taking knots out of people thats where a lot of the private physio work is at the minute. Its also not a gold mine I know several, none are extremely well off or some aren't even comfortable and struggle getting clients. Both will require intensive course work, pharmacist students aren't allowed to be paid on placement either. If you want a job that brings in enough in 20 hours per week why not just take up thai massage or the like?
GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: » It is possible to work as a locum pharmacist. You are self employed and cover days off for the regular pharmacist. This can be done through word of mouth or via an agency who take a percentage of your wages. The hours can be erratic and you would be covering weekends and holidays of other pharmacists. It can involve long days and lots of travel, especially if you don’t live in a big city. In hospital pharmacy it is possible to work part time but you would almost always have a second masters degree which you get in your first few years of working full time in a hospital so it’s not part time straight away. If you don’t like hard work then pharmacy is not for you. The degree and placements are hard work and you need to show commitment to get through it all.
Water John wrote: » TMK there are sort of agency shifts available. Don't know the website but the pay rates are very high. If you're demand for money is low, I'd say a couple of shifts per week would make you enough.
Jamir Substantial Ladybug wrote: » lol - good one! But in essence that's what I AM doing at the moment. I got a base cert in MSK and tagged a bunch of certs in all the "knot-removing" modalities onto it. In theory, everything a uni-trained physio can offer in terms of hands on modalities, I can actually offer (probably more actually, cause I went on a cert bender and did everything on the market). Issue arises in, 1) most people like to work with an actual uni trained physio 2) naturally a uni qualification is held in much higher regard and you can work in a hospital with rehabilitation patients etc. 3) diagnostic and overall anatomical knowledge of physios totally eclipses my knowledge base in that sense. They learn about muscle attachment by way of dissecting cadavers for Christ sakes. The question here was pharmacy specifically, it's feasible to cut that stressful "all-in" working week of 40/50 hours down to bite size, 25/30 hours by simply roster yourself for 2 or 3 days or doing half days? This is the deciding factor to me. If I'm told, "forget about it, you're gonna work your fingers to the bone, 50 per no half measures", then pharmacy is off the table.
Jamir Substantial Ladybug wrote: » I'm hanging in the balance as to choice of physiotherapy or pharmacy as career path. "Torn", you could say. Yes I've contact faculty directors and basically been given green light for admission application to either. My concern regarding pharmacy is, 1) 5 year program vs 3 year physio 2) And this is the main one - (I realize I had another thread on this recently but didn't get sufficient clarity before it was locked) - working hours; As a pharmacist, is it actually necessary to work 5 days typical 8 to 9 hour day (sometimes 10, depending I assume)? Can you simply roster yourself to do 2 or 3 days? See my lifestyle is not expensive. I just need money for the basics. Hell I try to stay green so don't even use a car. Costs are low, and priority is do muh job, not let muh job do me. Feedback I got in the other thread was, community pharmacy is taxing, long hours, stressful - not the easy life. Is there any way to make it the easy life? Just schedule hours so you don't have to do as much, albeit for a smaller paycheck? Or is it more so, if your contracted to a position, expect to do the 40 to 50 hour work week, no exceptions. As always, your feedback is profoundly appreciated.
Mjolnir wrote: » If you work in a rural village then you most certainly can be contracted part time by the pharmacist who owns it, like I said I know someone who does as it suits her lifestyle and situation. Add to that you won't be rushed off your feet. My physio on the other hand charges €20/45 min and is out the door. He loves it and has a loyal client base that travel fairly far to him. He could easily do 30 hours a week and charge more.
karlitob wrote: » You can’t offer the same as a ‘uni-trained physio’. And you certainly can’t offer ‘more’. In other words, unless you are registered with Coru you are not a physiotherapist.
Jamir Substantial Ladybug wrote: » 20 euro per 45 minutes? A masseuse makes more than that (significantly more) - albeit I know no masseuse with clients, "out the door". This part where ya'll are claiming private practice physio is difficult? I'm not getting my head around this cause, I've yet to go to a private practice locally where there's not at least a week waiting list. So far the argument for pharmacy feels more convincing, I gotta be honest. Part time possible, bigger money for less work. In terms of the intensity of a pharmacy degree, can anyone shed some more light on that? I assume 1st year is breezy enough, intensity amps up, say 3rd/4th and MPharm years.... can you get away with a 9 to 5 all in? As in, lectures, labs, tutorials and study?
Jamir Substantial Ladybug wrote: » I'm talking specifically hands on modalities, which are extremely limited in physio, as a degree is primarily rehab based. They cover mulligan concept mobilizations, I assume some massage work, then like every other hands on therapist they do a needling course, probably taping and strapping, some probably use a electrotherapy/tens-machine etc - and exercise prescription (body weight only, non-weight bearing). I do all that, plus hell I did cupping so that also, plus via a PT cert prescribe weight bearing exercise (which due to the muscle "shock" component is infinitely more valuable when done correctly). So yes, I do offer all + more specifically in terms of hands on MSK treatment, but as said, diagnostics and anatomy/physiology knowledge doesn't hold a candle to a uni trained physio.
karlitob wrote: » Stop taking about what you don’t know. Chartered physiotherapists do not have ‘extremely limited’ hands on skills. That’s a ridiculous and stupid statement all in one. We practice evidence-based treatment. Not like the quacks who do a weekend course and all of a sudden guess what every patient gets for treatment on Monday morning. Look back on what you said - ‘I cant hold a candle to physios’ on anatomy etc. You’ve just said that you have limited knowledge of anatomy and physiology yet for some reason can apply treatments based on anatomy and physiology to patients. If you can’t diagnose a patient how can you treat them. If you aren’t a ‘uni-based physio’ (in fact you’re not a physio at all as you’re not Coru registered) how do you know what the course syllabus. What muscle ‘shock’ component? Cupping?
