tonycascarino wrote: » My view is that multiculturalism doesn't work. However, I do not mind fellow Europeans coming in but I think it is time to pull up the drawbridge on African and Asian economic migrants who are coming here pretending they are asylum seekers and who are adding nothing to society here in general.
suicide_circus wrote: » how do you know that? you're only just registered
Deleted User wrote: » I allready did in another thread covering the same subject
Macytoby wrote: » There’s a difference between multi-ethnic and multiculturalism. Immigration needs to be limited, and restricted until current immigrants assimilate to the dominant culture. This applies for every nation right across the globe.
Kivaro wrote: » Happy Juneteenth everyone.
Madeleine Birchfield wrote: » In the event of Irish reunification, how much of Northern Ireland could Ireland take before Ireland is unable to assimilate the Ulster Unionists into Irish culture?
Eric Cartman wrote: » Allowing our EU friends in has proved to be a positive for Ireland, high employment rates, compatible culture, a lot of integration and very friendly people who put roots down and contribute to the community. Some non EU migrants such as tech workers from the states and Asia work pretty well, although integration into our customs is pretty low among among the asian community but there are no real negatives associated with such. migration from South America, Africa, the Middle East and some west asian nations (Pakistan etc..) has proven disastrous. High Unemployment, High welfare dependance, low education, high levels of criminality, almost no integration, remunerating a lot of money to their home countries and not spending in the local economy, complete cultural incompatibility and a lack of co-operation with gardai. We were promised their doctors and engineers, we got their equivalent to 'Anto from the flats'
Strumms wrote: » It’s only my situation but people whom I know, would be friendly with and who are from Brazil and every single one are free of having criminal records, they ALL work here legally, socialize here, study here, contribute and respect their environment, neighbors, opportunities, and the law. Employers include... Apple x2 HSE x2 Private Health Practice x1
biko wrote: » Now you're just acting like a troll. Either you have something concrete to say and can back it up, or you're just being purposely obtuse and inflammatory.
na1 wrote: » This is the same as asking: are Irish people good citizens? It all depends on WHO is immigrating. The refugee who is living in a council house with a large family with no intention to find a job? Or the highly skilled doctor or IT professional?
o1s1n wrote: » Have you seen how many doctors working in our hospitals aren't Irish? How many Philipina nurses work in our wards? How many high paying roles in IT companies are populated with people from all over the globe? You do realise they're all immigrants too, right?
US2 wrote: » Is there one example in the history of the planet where different cultures have mixed successfully, think about it.
Deleted User wrote: » The key word missing from your post is "legal". Legal immigration is a good thing for an economy. It is the illegal migrants that are a met drain on resources. I really hate how people deliberately muddle the two in order to fit their agenda.
ShatterAlan wrote: » There are so many highly educated refugees and asylum seekers. People on here harp on about how so many of these people are blagging their way into the country as economic migrants. I live between 2 countries. I've befriended Sarmand, from Afghanistan, in the Netherlands. Sarmand has a PhD in Chemical Engineering. He dunks chips into a deep fat fryer and carves slabs of lamb off the rotating "elephant's leg" in the shoarma joint because he can't get his Engineering accreditation recognised in Holland. Are you trying to tell me that Sarmand left Afghanistan to come to Europe for a more lucrative and fullfilling life as a grease-monkey in a chipper? If he was earning the same as a street trader in Kabul as a respected, educated man he would be happy.
person who travels from one country or area to another in order to improve their standard of living.
ShatterAlan wrote: » Every interracial married couple that I know.
biko wrote: » The best way to argue for multiculturalism is by showing examples of countries where it works.
ShatterAlan wrote: » Seeking asylum and being granted it is also LEGAL immigration but you seem to think that they are all economic spongers.
Madeleine Birchfield wrote: » We are going to need multiculturalism for the sake of the Ulster Unionists in the event of reunification. Only way they'll ever accept being a part of a united Ireland.
Richard Hillman wrote: » Big fan of immigration. EU/EEA immigration, Most Eastern European immigration, South/Central American immigration, Far East Asian immigration, Some Indian immigration, immigration from AUS/NZ, USA-Canada. That is all.
ShatterAlan wrote: » Maybe you could be less opaque and define what you mean by: (a) multicultularlism (b) the benchmarks for it to be "working" (c) the benchmarks for it to be a "disaster" You seem to be painting with very broad strokes and not really explaining yourself. Are you talking about individual cases of someone from a different culture coming to Ireland and their specific experiences? If so then I can give you myriad examples. Indian family in my neighbourhood growing up. We had a great time with them. There were 4 sons, brown as chestnuts aged from about 11 down to 4. Every Summer the father would shave their heads...not bald but hardcore #2 crew cuts. Looked cool. A lot of the local lads had the dad shear them as well in the front garden with his buzzer. And then dash off like spring lambs. I guess the locals were actually integrating with Omar the father and his family.
ShatterAlan wrote: » In other words no "kaffirs", "rag-heads" or "camel-jockeys" need apply, right? You mention AUS/NZ. Would you draw the line with "Abos" and "Maoris"?
Rodin wrote: » Should have an immigration system like Australia where only essential skils are brought in under a credit system All asylum seeker applications should be sorted within weeks. If they're not eligible send them home Nobody who is here only 5 years should get a passport.
olestoepoke wrote: » I live in Balbriggan north county Dublin. There are also a "myriad" of examples up here. The town had to march on the Garda station to demand action regarding the African gangs that were terrorising us. The final straw for the community was a father and his young son out walking their dog was beaten up for absolutely nothing. Very easy for people who aren't living in the middle of this forced multiculturalism to defend it. No problems with migrant gangs in D4 or Dalkey and the likes.
Eric Cartman wrote: » the German unemployment rate in general is 3.9% , 28.5% of turks in Germany are unemployed. Kebabs are lovely, but thats not a sign of integration from wikipedia : Theres over 57 recognised Turkish gangs operating in Germany and they are the no.1 nationality for running prostitution and human trafficking rackets.
olestoepoke wrote: » Very easy for people who aren't living in the middle of this forced multiculturalism to defend it. No problems with migrant gangs in D4 or Dalkey and the likes.
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