07Lapierre wrote: » Agree... enforcement is needed! If any of those lads came towards me while I was crossing the road, I’d stand my ground! Muppets!
AndrewJRenko wrote: » I'm not sure why you'd find it shocking at all. You've heard once or twice on this thread about the 98% of motorists that break urban speed limits.
Here's IBikeDublin finding more cars in Dublin parked on bike lanes in a week than the Gardai ticketed in the whole country in a year.
Looks like another case of what you taking want to take or choose to take.
Oh yeah, we've seen all your empathy oozing out on the thread. It's a bit selective though that empathy. Cyclists are 'lawbreaking scum' (empathy? ) while speeding motorists are the best in the world.
There's that old 'accident/tragedy' language again, designed to absolve anyone of responsibility and avoid any possibility of learning from the experience.
spookwoman wrote: » Reality is we don't really know how many accidents happen due to pedestrians walking out in front of cyclists, motor vehicles and cyclists taking risks or carelessness.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Grand you're happy, good for you. But it is to the detriment of the country that so many people were given permission to build where they like over the last few decades and contributes to poor public transport and car reliance. You don't have a problem with that but progressive people do.
John_Rambo wrote: » But you said if this happened to you you'd stand your ground, meaning it's never happened. Now you're spoofing that it actually did happen to you and you shouldered a cyclist off her or his bike. :pac::pac:
07Lapierre wrote: » It worked the last time!
John_Rambo wrote: » Internet tough guy! Doesn't work that way in real life. Cyclist will spot what you're at immediately and avoid or brake.
07Lapierre wrote: » Nah a good shove with my shoulder will do! I’ll be ok... cyclist breaking the red light goes flying!
John_Rambo wrote: » Very inadvisable for a pedestrian to stand in any moving vehicle even if it's braking a light. The chances of getting hurt would be high. This is telling... According to Transdev, the LUAS operators... Drivers account for more than half of all crashes and emergency braking incidents!!!, pedestrians more than one third and cyclists less than 10%. So, sorry motorists and pedestrians (me incuded :mad: ), the cyclists have the edge on us, they're the safest and most aware road users in the city. Stats don't lie.
magicbastarder wrote: » thankfully, this is incredibly rare; there is no inquest verdict i'm aware of from the second case above which would throw light on what happened, but the only case i'm aware of where the cyclist was found responsible dates from either 2002 or 2003.
TaurenDruid wrote: » That's shocking. Only 5,000 fines in four years? That's less than four fines a day!Sure, you'd often get four cyclists breaking the red on one single light sequence! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbttAigUIjI The lack of enforcement quite possibly leads to an attitude of "Ah, sure, it's grand. I'll get away with it anyway." Quite possibly, too, they retain that attitude when they park their bike in the shed and get into their cars...
Shelga wrote: » What has this got to do with cyclists? I also see about 3 unleashed dogs on my cycle, should I be up in arms about that?
SeanW wrote: » True, but in this case the only injury was to a vulnerable old persons dignity, pride and sense of self-respect. That's what I took from the story anyway.
The couple was taken by ambulance to University Hospital Galway. It is understood that their injuries are not life-threatening. Sgt Vincent Jennings of Salthill Garda Station said that it was a “miracle” that there were no fatalities or injuries.
SeanW wrote: » Because as a human being, I am capable of empathy. The article said the car belonged to an elderly couple but didn't say which one caused the accident. Whichever one it was, there's a good chance they're not going to drive anymore (and to be fair, perhaps they should stop driving). Thing is, when old people start to lose their ability to do things for themselves - especially to get around - they usually start to go downhill much, much, faster after that. So to me, the correct takeaway from this article was to read it as a small-scale human tragedy. But as Little Andy showed us, you can also take glee in their misfortune because you can use it to score cheap points pushing your own small, hateful, pathetic little crusade. Then you can feel good about dumping on a vulnerable old person while you sit in judgement of them from your ivory bicycle seat while you and your ilk smugly sail through every red light and down every footpath in our major cities. At least I get the sense that this is what Andrew and his circlejerk are doing.
micar wrote: » Same "Ah, sure, it's grand. I'll get away with it anyway" attitude from motorists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWC8sT06Zi0
TaurenDruid wrote: » That's shocking. Only 5,000 fines in four years? That's less than four fines a day!Sure, you'd often get four cyclists breaking the red on one single light sequence!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbttAigUIjI The lack of enforcement quite possibly leads to an attitude of "Ah, sure, it's grand. I'll get away with it anyway." Quite possibly, too, they retain that attitude when they park their bike in the shed and get into their cars...
magicbastarder wrote: » at least in most housing estates in dublin you're going to be able to walk to the shops for a newspaper, along a road with public lighting, on an actual footpath.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » This will make your day so Shelga.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/almost-5-000-on-the-spot-fines-issued-to-cyclists-1.3977141 How much Garda resources do you want to divert away from reducing the death toll on the roads caused by motorists to go chasing cyclists?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » You have many chips on your shoulder
ewc78 wrote: » Thanks,I couldn't actually be more happy if I tried,also FYI, I'm not any more reliant on my car now than I was when I lived in Lucan. Kids won't have Dublin accents now either so that's another bonus
ewc78 wrote: » So people don't use cars to go to the shop in Dublin? I had a Centra about 500 yards from my front door in Lucan and the next door neighbour always drove to it. I'm quite happy with my mindset and my decision to take my kids out of Dublin and to build a house in the middle of the country side thank you very much, so you know where you can go with your opinion of me.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » No, the first world problem is that you need a car to get to a shop. People with your mindset are the reason this whole country is f*cked with decades of bad planning and scattered housing and ribbon development.
ewc78 wrote: » I truly fail to see what is weird about it. So what if you can't walk to a shop? First world problems indeed. It's not something that would be high on my list of deciding where to live.
magicbastarder wrote: » i was specifically referring to moving to a housing estate in the middle of nowhere where you're overlooked, have a tiny garden, etc.
magicbastarder wrote: » at least in most housing estates in dublin you're going to be able to walk to the shops for a newspaper, along a road with public lighting, on an actual footpath. it's not that it's built away from the suburbs, it's that it's built over 2km from the nearest town. it's just weird.
ewc78 wrote: » Maybe not everyone wants to live in a kip of a housing estate somewhere in Dublin or any other city suburb.
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