Shelga wrote: » How would it divert any resources to have Gardai out on the beat actually enforce the law regarding cyclists breaking red lights? I'm not talking about having special SWAT team set up, with a special HQ on Store Street to rival MI5. Thanks for sharing the article, great to see! As I said, I cycle every day to work myself, when things are normal, and it's just so frustrating to see cyclists who don't give a ****, sailing through the lights. Giving all of us a bad name. Already in this thread a guy has shared his story about how shaken up and depressed he was when he was driving and hit a cyclist who had broken a red light. Do you or do you not think cyclists need to follow the rules of the road?
ewc78 wrote: » Hi Shelga, did you know motorists kill people? I have a feeling you are about to be told about it....a lot.
Hurrache wrote: » The problem is that the impression that over 90% of cyclists break lights is a fallacy, and yet keeps getting repeated.
Hurrache wrote: » I think I'll just start reading from page 1 again......
Shelga wrote: » All I can say is that anecdotally, on a 8km each way cycle to work, I will easily see 10+ cyclists breaking a red light. I will not see 10+ cars breaking a red light. I actually don't believe the survey that has been quoted here, and can't see a link to it, and it's contradicted by the TCD survey anyway. What do cyclists breaking a red light have to do with motorists breaking a red light? It can be irritating on its own, without having to be linked back to the misdeeds of motorists.
Shelga wrote: » All I can say is that anecdotally, on a 8km each way cycle to work, I will easily see 10+ cyclists breaking a red light. I will not see 10+ cars breaking a red light. .
AndrewJRenko wrote: » How many drivers do you see breaking the speed limit on your 8km cycle Shelga? How many drivers do you see with a phone in their hand or on their lap?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Every Garda hour spent chasing cyclists is an hour not spent reducing the death toll on the roads. We have finite Garda resources. If they are chasing cyclists, then they are not checking cars for speeding, jumping red lights, phone use, drink /drug driving and more. Do the 98% of motorists that break urban speed limits in the RSA Speed Survey give the 2% of compliant motorists a bad name?
spookwoman wrote: » Saw 2 people cycling on the the path yesterday 2 abreast and then basically forced the pedestrian up against the wall as they passed. Big problem I am seeing these days is no lights on the bikes at dusk, earphones and meandering all over the roads. Lot of new cyclists out that don't know how to control their bikes properly. Pedestrians are killed by cyclists and the other way around as well.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/coroner-s-court/cyclist-died-after-collision-with-pedestrian-inquest-hears-1.3317745https://irishcycle.com/2020/01/10/man-dies-after-collision-between-cyclist-and-pedestrian-on-n24-in/
Shelga wrote: » What has this got to do with cyclists? I also see about 3 unleashed dogs on my cycle, should I be up in arms about that?
Shelga wrote: » Do you get to decide which laws we are allowed to follow?
spookwoman wrote: » Pedestrians are killed by cyclists and the other way around as well.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/coroner-s-court/cyclist-died-after-collision-with-pedestrian-inquest-hears-1.3317745https://irishcycle.com/2020/01/10/man-dies-after-collision-between-cyclist-and-pedestrian-on-n24-in/
07Lapierre wrote: » According to "Connoroconner" in the comments...cycling on the pavement is not illegal? Damn! All these years cycling on the road when I could have been terrorising peds on the pavement! https://www.thejournal.ie/trinity-college-request-dublin-city-council-cycling-walking-5126303-Jun2020/
magicbastarder wrote: » unfortunately there are still some bizarre examples of planning being granted; this is a recently completed small estate (10 houses) i pass occasionally on the bike, and it's a couple of km from the nearest town, no paths of any description provided (and they'd be economically unviable anyway). i just don't get the notion of wanting to live in the countryside, while living in a housing estate?https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4703172,-6.3758863,243m/data=!3m1!1e3
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Why are things like that given planning permission? Ridiculous, just makes more and more car reliance and isolated children.
Hurrache wrote: » If someone does an Evil Knievel off a cliff on a bike it's likely only themselves they'll pancake. If they did it in a car the risk to others is much much larger.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » You brought up the comparison with motorists yourself, so don't start moaning when the findings don't suit you. "All I can say is that anecdotally, on a 8km each way cycle to work, I will easily see 10+ cyclists breaking a red light. I will not see 10+ cars breaking a red light."
ewc78 wrote: » Maybe not everyone wants to live in a kip of a housing estate somewhere in Dublin or any other city suburb.
magicbastarder wrote: » at least in most housing estates in dublin you're going to be able to walk to the shops for a newspaper, along a road with public lighting, on an actual footpath. it's not that it's built away from the suburbs, it's that it's built over 2km from the nearest town. it's just weird.
magicbastarder wrote: » i was specifically referring to moving to a housing estate in the middle of nowhere where you're overlooked, have a tiny garden, etc.
ewc78 wrote: » I truly fail to see what is weird about it. So what if you can't walk to a shop? First world problems indeed. It's not something that would be high on my list of deciding where to live.
