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PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

shuffles03

Mark Cerny has been showing off the dev kit:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console

PS5 FAQ:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/#sf239758641

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The Raging Bile Duct

TrivialArguer wrote: »

Thanks for quoting it in its entirety, so I could see it again.

I thought it was a poem...

I think it's ten haikus bundled together.

Markitron

Minime2.5 wrote: »

I really hope Demon Souls is a launch title

I genuinely believe it is. From day 1 the rumours said that Bluepoint were doing a Demon's Souls remake and that it was a PS5 launch title. The fact that it didn't have a date makes me even more sure. If it wasn't coming this year it would have been given a 2021 date.

I think they are saving the launch lineup announcement for when they announcing the price.

Wing126

Some good news from CD Projekt - https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/06/20200618_1900-cd-projekt.mp3 -

At the 11 minute mark. Cyberpunk 2077 is confirmed to get a free PS5 upgrade as well as a patch for the PS4 version to make it run better on PS5.

I know this could have been expected, but it just wasn't confirmed before now regarding the free PS5 upgrade.

TrivialArguer

CountingCrows wrote: »

Best sentence ever.

Thanks for quoting it in its entirety, so I could see it again.

I thought it was a poem...

Minime2.5

I really hope Demon Souls is a launch title

CountingCrows

riclad wrote: »

I think it was the no 1 console Fps game until
Modern warfare 4 was released
I think Microsoft are very clever, it seems there, ll
be 2 xbox models, a low cost model with just 1080p and also more high spec model with 4k output I think we have more info on new ps5 games right now eg ratchet and clank
Spiderman , horizon Dawn West etc
than what new games which will be out for the new Xbox going by previous consoles the cheapest console tends to win.
The ps4 was cheaper then the xbox 1 ,
The xbox 1 was more expensive with a pointless
Kinect device bundled in
I think Microsoft will not make any stupid mistakes this time as they did with the previous
Console they price will be reasonable even if
they have to make a loss on each console sale

Best sentence ever.

riclad

I think halo was the first console game with very advanced online multiplayer modes. Eg it was designed to show off xbox live . Eg lots of maps with death match, team deathmatch etc and different modes for multiplayer, I thinks it's now out matched in popularity by Cod and battle royale games like fortnite.
I think it was the no 1 console Fps game until
Modern warfare 4 was released
I think Microsoft are very clever, it seems there, ll
be 2 xbox models, a low cost model with just 1080p and also more high spec model with 4k output I think we have more info on new ps5 games right now eg ratchet and clank
Spiderman , horizon Dawn West etc
than what new games which will be out for the new Xbox going by previous consoles the cheapest console tends to win.
The ps4 was cheaper then the xbox 1 ,
The xbox 1 was more expensive with a pointless
Kinect device bundled in
I think Microsoft will not make any stupid mistakes this time as they did with the previous
Console they price will be reasonable even if
they have to make a loss on each console sale

[Deleted User]

PS5 has essentially constant power consumption (during gaming) so they will spec the PSU fairly bang-on to what they need, without the oodles of headroom that previous consoles had.

Potential-Monke

I never understood how Sony could fit the power supply into the consoles and MS couldn't. Was it the same on the XBone?

Varik

The PSU for the Series X is 300W but it won't be drawing that. The launch PS3 had a 380W PSU and only drew 190W, and while I'm not sure which PS3 slim is which they had PSU between 250 and 190W and one of them drew only 85W. The PS4 was 150W max and a 250W PSU. The One X and Pro were 160-180W.

The PS5 likely won't have an external power supply, and if when we see some rear IO and it's got the 2 prong figure 8 cable then it's under 250W. Wouldn't say either console is going to be too far from the Pro and the One X and that's the launch models they'll get more power efficient from there.

Potential-Monke

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

So now it seems Cyberpunk 2077 is delayed AGAIN and due to be released around the time of the rumored PS5 launch. Coincidence? :pac:

And a damn good one. I reckon the PS5 launch games will be good, and this will drive sales, if Cyberpunk, Ghost of Tsushima, maybe TLOU2, soon followed by AC Valhalla and others.

Re: Halo, didn't like the fact that it took 2 mags to kill an enemy and the response was always 'You're supposed to go for headshots'. K. No thanks.

How Soon Is Now

So now it seems Cyberpunk 2077 is delayed AGAIN and due to be released around the time of the rumored PS5 launch. Coincidence? :pac:

Mike3287

billybonkers wrote: »

Not really, the architecture is quite a bit more efficient

It is but will still take alot more juice

Greyfox

Homelander wrote: »

Ah, okay. So all the millions of fans who love the story, lore and multiplayer are just wrong or don't know any better, as are the reviewers.

I also thought the Halo games were average.

challengemaster

CastorTroy wrote: »

Anyway to go off topic, does installing a game from disc, take up as much space as if you downloaded it?

Nobody knows for PS5, developers have said that because of the SSD the game files don't need to be so big to begin with because there's no need for a double copy.

They've also mentioned that you can selectively remove parts of games if the game developers have enabled the tech. Don't want multiplayer? Boom - delete it and still have the single player installed.

billybonkers

Mike3287 wrote: »

Keep a few euro for electric bill though

Those things will be power hungry, likely be a good bit higher than current gen consoles given the crazy high clock speeds.

Not really, the architecture is quite a bit more efficient

CastorTroy

Not a big fan of chocolate ice cream either, but would eat it if no option.

Anyway to go off topic, does installing a game from disc, take up as much space as if you downloaded it?

TitianGerm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Chocolate ice cream is an abomination.

Can't disagree with that!!

gimli2112

Mr Crispy wrote: »

At last, someone is speaking sense.

This is the thing I disagreed most with in his post and he dissed Bloodborne ffs.

Mr Crispy

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Chocolate ice cream is an abomination.

At last, someone is speaking sense.

shaveAbullock

I'm devastated that Deadly Premonition 2 is a switch exclusive

Stone Deaf 4evr

Ya, Its weird, its kinda like people can enjoy different things.

I think Horizon is overrated and little more that a 3rd person far cry game.
I dropped bloodborne after Rom, as it didnt grab me like dark souls 1-3
I fell asleep playing Uncharted 2
I quite liked the last of us

Chocolate ice cream is an abomination.

Mike3287

jonerkinsella wrote: »

I said last week in this thread that the consoles will be €400 and €500. I also said that there would be a lot of potential price leaks coming out in the next few weeks. This is starting to transpire for the PS and XbX/S.

With the rumors of a huge event by MS in July with a potential price announcement, I am now thinking that the consoles are actually gonna be cheaper. I think Sony want MS to go with the €500 on the XbX and they will drop to €450 for the F and €350 for the D.
Remember the article on Bloomberg reporting the manufacturing cost of $450 per unit. Sony are in the ballpark with that. I think MS have spent quite a lot more on speccing out the XbX with the more raw power components.

Sony are storming way ahead of MS in the interest from consumers for the next gen. Viewer indicators of PS vs XB on Youtube are a clear indicator of this. Sony are jebating MS. Lets see who commits first. I think it will be MS as they are under pressure to make this a success. Sony can afford to wait in the tall grass.

For sure they will be in that region, disk less versions especially

Keep a few euro for electric bill though

Those things will be power hungry, likely be a good bit higher than current gen consoles given the crazy high clock speeds.

gimli2112

I don't think he's saying that simply that he didn't like it.

Similarly I don't see the fuss over the Witcher 3 but again see that as a personal thing.

The Raging Bile Duct

This is totally why I follow this thread...

Homelander

Ah, okay. So all the millions of fans who love the story, lore and multiplayer are just wrong or don't know any better, as are the reviewers.

I think I get it now. It only sells truckloads and is one of the most iconic franchises around for the past 17 years because of fake hype.

Bit mad how people still buy into it almost two decades later. You would almost think they're actually fairly good games.

Dacia comparison is silly by the way. No one buys it because it's an amazing car, no one pretends it's one either. What you're doing is more akin to claiming a Volkswagen Golf is actually quite unreliable

Which is grand obviously, but not exactly supported by anything and flies in the face of objective data.

Creamy Goodness

Homelander wrote: »

That's a bit of a silly argument just because you don't like the game.

It's the game the original Xbox was built on, sells by the bucket load, critically acclaimed, has broken sales records on many occasions.

There's not much else to take away from that except it's a good game.

I don't know why people go out of their way to claim Halo isn't good, like it's all some sort of hoax, and all the reviewers and millions of fans are missing something.

Like, I thought Horizon Zero Dawn was boring, but I figured it was just not to my taste rather than go around telling people it's a bad game when clearly it objectively isn't.

Killzone is the closest thing Sony has to Halo, but it is nowhere near as popular because it's nowhere near as good.

For a long time Halo was literally the only reason I even had an Xbox, and the reason I chose Xbox over Playstation. It was the main reason all my friends had 360's over the PS3 as well. It even took me away from PC gaming for a long time.

I'm not saying it wasn't a good game just because I didn't like it. The story was boring, it wasn't anything that hadn't been done before like quake series, half life, system shock, goldeneye/perfect dark (for console) are just a few examples that did stuff better. There's nothing wrong with being a generic shooter but if you're going to be you need a compelling story. Just because something sold by the bucket load doesn't make it good. Dacia Dusters sell by the bucket load, is it a good car? nope.

HZD had a good story, great memorable characters and decent mechanics, it's flaw in my opinion was it tried to do too much and didn't lend itself well to my gaming style. I found if I left the game for 3-5 days I completely forgot all the controls and what I was doing more so than any other games.

I wasn't really comparing Sony shooters and Microsoft shooters, just the game itself and if you blow past the hype dollars Microsoft put behind it cause of their first home console you're left with a very average game.

Homelander

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Halo was never a good game, average at absolute best.

That's a bit of a silly argument just because you don't like the game.

It's the game the original Xbox was built on, sells by the bucket load, critically acclaimed, has broken sales records on many occasions.

There's not much else to take away from that except it's a good game.

I don't know why people go out of their way to claim Halo isn't good, like it's all some sort of hoax, and all the reviewers and millions of fans are missing something.

Like, I thought Horizon Zero Dawn was boring, but I figured it was just not to my taste rather than go around telling people it's a bad game when clearly it objectively isn't.

Killzone is the closest thing Sony has to Halo, but it is nowhere near as popular because it's nowhere near as good.

For a long time Halo was literally the only reason I even had an Xbox, and the reason I chose Xbox over Playstation. It was the main reason all my friends had 360's over the PS3 as well. It even took me away from PC gaming for a long time.

Markitron

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Halo was never a good game, average at absolute best.

Yea I'm not a fan of the series. I have always found it annoying how frequently it is credited for popularising the console FPS, as if GoldenEye didn't already do it 4 years earlier.

jonerkinsella

I said last week in this thread that the consoles will be €400 and €500. I also said that there would be a lot of potential price leaks coming out in the next few weeks. This is starting to transpire for the PS and XbX/S.

With the rumors of a huge event by MS in July with a potential price announcement, I am now thinking that the consoles are actually gonna be cheaper. I think Sony want MS to go with the €500 on the XbX and they will drop to €450 for the F and €350 for the D.
Remember the article on Bloomberg reporting the manufacturing cost of $450 per unit. Sony are in the ballpark with that. I think MS have spent quite a lot more on speccing out the XbX with the more raw power components.

Sony are storming way ahead of MS in the interest from consumers for the next gen. Viewer indicators of PS vs XB on Youtube are a clear indicator of this. Sony are jebating MS. Lets see who commits first. I think it will be MS as they are under pressure to make this a success. Sony can afford to wait in the tall grass.