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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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Continued from here
https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057953711/251
All Ireland Senior XV related talk here.

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mfceiling

No Ferris no likey.

awec

It does seem a bit weird to have James Ryan on a list that's mostly retirees, with a few soon-to-be retirees thrown in.

Furlong too I guess, but he makes sense as it's a position we never really excelled in.

thomond2006

mfceiling wrote: »

No Ferris no likey.

Had Ferris not succumbed to injury there's no doubt in my mind he's a slam dunk pick for a list like this. I can't leave out Wallace though.

It's such a pity that injuries in 2011 robbed Ireland/Kidney of having SOB, Ferris, Heaslip and Wallace available at the same time. I'd imagine SOB would have been the bencher and a pissed off SOB coming off the bench at 55-60' is a frightening prospect!

geotrig

thomond2006 wrote: »

Where the **** is Hayes?! :mad:

carrying them all under one arm :pac:

Yeah_Right

thomond2006 wrote: »

Had Ferris not succumbed to injury there's no doubt in my mind he's a slam dunk pick for a list like this. I can't leave out Wallace though.

It's such a pity that injuries in 2011 robbed Ireland/Kidney of having SOB, Ferris, Heaslip and Wallace available at the same time. I'd imagine SOB would have been the bencher and a pissed off SOB coming off the bench at 55-60' is a frightening prospect!

If you had those 4 available, what combo would you go with?

geotrig

Yeah_Right wrote: »

If you had those 4 available, what combo would you go with?

heaslip would be benched !

Yeah_Right

geotrig wrote: »

heaslip would be benched !

Nice. Give the Mods some work to do.

thomond2006

Yeah_Right wrote: »

If you had those 4 available, what combo would you go with?

SOB would seem to me to be the obvious odd man out. The most versatile of the four and probably the best at doing damage as a fresh replacement.

geotrig

he'd also be ok to replace all 3 at once

Rigor Mortis

thomond2006 wrote: »

Furlong couldn't lace Hayes' boots when it came to crying.

Sure Hayes had to move to velcro boots. The tears were making the laces impossible to grip.

thomond2006

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

Sure Hayes had to move to velcro boots. The tears were making the laces impossible to grip.

Look we already have one Buer. We don't need two.

Rigor Mortis

thomond2006 wrote: »

Look we already have one Buer. We don't need two.

A boy has to have a dream, a star to follow.

Paul Smeenus

Rigor Mortis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291ET6Py6H8

Former Former

SOB was our best player at the 2011 World Cup and the reigning European Player of the Year. There's no way he would have been benched. Deccie's entire game plan was give it to Seanie, let him truck it up.

arsebiscuits1

Former Former wrote: »

SOB was our best player at the 2011 World Cup and the reigning European Player of the Year. There's no way he would have been benched. Deccie's entire game plan was give it to Seanie, let him truck it up.

Which was to our demise against Wales sadly. Some say Dan Lydiate is still on that pitch chop tackling whatever person comes near him.

Paul Smeenus

Former Former wrote: »

SOB was our best player at the 2011 World Cup and the reigning European Player of the Year. There's no way he would have been benched. Deccie's entire game plan was give it to Seanie, let him truck it up.

I'm not sure you understand how a Best Ireland 23 of the Pro Era works...

Brief_Lives

Buer wrote: »

I see Wood and BOD named their XV of the 21st century. Wood did the forwards, BOD did the backs with the exception of 10 where BOD said he could not pick someone as both ROG and Sexton are his friends and one would hold a grudge if he didn't pick him. Neither Wood nor BOD could be selected:

Healy
Best
Furlong
POC
Ryan
SOB
Wallace
Heaslip
Murray
ROG
Earls
D'Arcy
Ringrose
Bowe
Kearney

Interesting mentions for Flannery (BOD was a big advocate for Flannery) and Reddan who apparently were big leaders behind the scenes in terms of setting standards off the pitch and demanding more of those around them. Surprisingly, they spoke very highly of Leamy also in relation to his skill set.

Payne noted as arguably the most influential loss in the 2015 RWC but simply wasn't around enough to be ahead of Ringrose.

Each had one veto for the others' selections.

BOD would have had Ferris instead of Wallace in the backrow. Wood was going to use his veto if BOD chose Sexton.

Yea it was a good show....

Rigor Mortis

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Rigor Mortis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291ET6Py6H8

That put a smile on my face today.

Buer

geotrig wrote: »

I know the current gen are probably the "best" overall etc with their wins etc , it does seem very unbalanced to recent caps though

It does? Ringrose, Healy, Furlong, Ryan and Earls are the only current players.

And two of those guys made their debuts in 2009 so have been around a long, long time.

Buer

mfceiling wrote: »

No Ferris no likey.

I should add that I listed the announced team. If we count BOD's veto, it's Ferris instead of Wallace. He said the best backrow of Ireland in the pro era was the 2011 RWC trio.

thomond2006 wrote: »

Look we already have one Buer. We don't need two.

I could do with some help on here. It's like the Irish loosehead in 2000-2010 having to do the work of two props.

Paul Smeenus

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

That put a smile on my face today.

02:18

He ain't singing "cuss".

Former Former

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I'm not sure you understand how a Best Ireland 23 of the Pro Era works...

I'm not sure you read the thread

Paul Smeenus

Former Former wrote: »

I'm not sure you read the thread

Haven't the energy to wrangle this on out.

No benching Seanie, gotcha.

Personally, I'm with Thomond2006.

geotrig

Buer wrote: »

It does? Ringrose, Healy, Furlong, Ryan and Earls are the only current players.

And two of those guys made their debuts in 2009 so have been around a long, long time.

what about players from 2000/2001? wasnt hickey always touted as one of our best wingers ,claw for prop etc , geordan murphy etc, its a bit stupid anyway as ringrose is in there cause bod couldn't be picked and fla and best mentioned as wood couldnt be picked , what about maggs, henderson(i know you are loling) but for a time he was a excellent player ,they were equally as good as darcy at times ?

Paul Smeenus

Re-read the thread.

Fair enough. Hadn't realised there was a separate conversation about 2011.

Buer

geotrig wrote: »

what about players from 2000/2001? wasnt hickey always touted as one of our best wingers ,claw for prop etc , geordan murphy etc, its a bit stupid anyway as ringrose is in there cause bod couldn't be picked and fla and best mentioned as wood couldnt be picked , what about maggs, henderson(i know you are loling) but for a time he was a excellent player ,they were equally as good as darcy at times ?

Listen to the piece. They were all mentioned, I think.

Hickie never had the consistency of Earls or Bowe and suffered badly with injuries. Clohsessy was very good; he wasn't in Healy's class though. For a sustained period, I don't think many would have Henderson or Maggs ahead of D'Arcy although both were excellent players at their best. But D'Arcy in 2004 was nominated for world player of the year deservedly.

Nobody in their right mind would have Geordan Murphy ahead of Kearney. Incredibly talented but was incredibly unreliable too.

aloooof

I think the only other player that was suggested that has't been mentioned here was POM.

*unfollows thread*

Buer

aloooof wrote: »

I think the only other player that was suggested that has't been mentioned here was POM.

*unfollows thread*

Wood had him next in line behind Wallace and ahead of Ferris.

AbusesToilets

Buer wrote: »

Wood had him next in line behind Wallace and ahead of Ferris.

Christ on a bike.

awec

Buer wrote: »

Wood had him next in line behind Wallace and ahead of Ferris.

Is Wood related to POM or something?