lawrencesummers wrote: » Is it to cynical to say that the Green Parties acceptance of being in Government means this motorway will be on the back burner for even longer?
serfboard wrote: » The Green Party have not been in government for nine years. What progress has been made on this road in the meantime? Or, what progress was made on this road until the Greens were in government in 2007? But yes, go ahead, attempting to blame the Greens for non-delivery of this road.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Considering they are opposed to And the fact that it has moved on from where it was a few years back -( albeit it with possible Hollow election Promises) It’s not unrealistic to think their seat at the big table might bring about its shelving. A government that is looking to cut spending where one of their partners is against starting an infrastructure project makes the possibility of this road even slimmer.
Leonard Hofstadter wrote: » With some of the (quite public) rumblings going on in the Green party, we may all be spared the appalling vista of them ever getting into power, it would appear as though there is a chance they may not get past the 2/3rds majority. PS: Pat Leahy in the Irish Times reckons the M20 is safe.
AugustusMinimus wrote: » The issue is the Greens are primarily a city focused party and don’t seem to understand what daily life entails past the suburbs. Their car sharing idea just showed their complete and utter lack of understanding.
Sam Russell wrote: » I think the national response to the restrictions brought about Covid19 shows that when the populace understands why, then they can responded in a good way and put personal position to the second place compared with its normal first place. I think they are not good at explaining WHY in terms that the general population can understand and buy into, and consequentially they are misunderstood by most people and lose their possible appeal. Public transport works in urban areas but less so in rural areas. Car sharing could work in rural areas but has not been tried in a realistic way, so does not appeal to rural voters. So they should be promoting PT and P&R and not just bicycles. Cutting emissions from agriculture has to be done, but the most obvious way (cutting herd numbers) is not acceptable to herd owners. However, there are other ways, and anyway, those herds of suckler cows do not turn a profit. They should be explaining HOW to cut emissions and still allow profitable agriculture. Eamonn Ryan standing in the Dail in the middle of a debate on Covid spouting about growing lettuce on the window sill as a solution to a food shortage has to be the most bizarre thing I have ever watched. I think they Greens need a new leader who speaks to the masses.
snotboogie wrote: » Both cities under discussion here, Cork and Limerick, have appalling public transportation though, to the point of it being essentially non existent in Limerick and non functioning bar one or two bus routes in Cork. There needs to be a complete overhaul in both cities.
AugustusMinimus wrote: » I don’t want to get political here but the push against Ryan is an ideological one. The economically left wing of the party want to oust Ryan who they view as economically centrist and not “woke”. Their priority doesn’t just include green matters but all sorts of social justice matters. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Cork Trucker wrote: » Dan Boyle to me:https://twitter.com/sendboyle/status/1273302211460771841?s=21
Sam Russell wrote: » What does that mean? The M20 goes ahead or not? It goes to the back of the queue?
Cosmo Kramer wrote: » In this case I'm pretty sure "reprioritised" is politics speak for "canned".
Sam Russell wrote: » Probably, Dan is from Cork. Why would he look to can such a vital link for his city?
marno21 wrote: » Because simplified ideology trumps pragmatism for many members of the Green Party Other Green Party candidates in Cork pushing for an M24 instead of M20 and to a lesser extent N25 improvements is just bonkers stuff
gifted wrote: » I just drove the Limerick to Cork road today...jesus but it's a death trap .
AugustusMinimus wrote: » The Cork Green’s like to do everything they can to hurt the city. It’s extraordinary.
donvito99 wrote: » Is the lack of an M20 really hurting the city specifically?
Cosmo Kramer wrote: » Just to clarify - when I referenced "reprioritised" as "canned", what I think he's saying is that other projects will be reprioritised/canned in the review but this one will survive the chop.
Cork Trucker wrote: » That's what i was gathering from it, why he couldn't say it in plain English i don't know.
