RyanthePirate wrote: » I would like to see a Boards.ie Consensus. Economists agree that immigration has a net positive on the economy and this immigration is surely a wonderful thing for the county. Agree/Disagree?
US2 wrote: » Is there one example in the history of the planet where different cultures have mixed successfully, think about it.
briany wrote: » I'd say we are moving in that direction, although not at a speed nearly fast enough that we'd see it concluded in a generation. If you take the USA as the prime example of a multicultural society, 100 years ago, white and black people could barely even be seen together, and today they fraternise openly all across that country, and there been huge cultural cross-contamination in music, fashion, food, comedy etc. The gap that once yawned so wide, there, has been massively closed. As for MLK, I think his being spat on is a slight bit of hyperbole. I mean, I don't doubt that there'd be someone who might do that, but I suspect they'd be just a Twitter fanatic type and I don't believe those people are anything like a majority. The rest of the people - the level-headed - would shake his hand.
tayto lover wrote: » Ask the people of Balbriggan how it’s working for them.
suicide_circus wrote: » But we're not moving in that direction. It seems to me that people are far more aware of their cultural differences now than they were 15 years ago. Identity politics, from the right and the left (mainly left) and victimhood as a form of socio-political currency are pushing this trend. MLK would be spat on today with his judging people on the content of their character. Then again, taking up Wibbs' point, Multiculturalism only seems like good sauce for western countries, there is something I don't quite trust about the impetus behind it.
Rodin wrote: » Should have an immigration system like Australia where only essential skils are brought in under a credit system All asylum seeker applications should be sorted within weeks. If they're not eligible send them home Nobody who is here only 5 years should get a passport.
FVP3 wrote: » No he means literally. Literally as fauna I think. Animals. But that turns out to be a myth.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flora_and_Fauna_Act
briany wrote: » All multiculturalism says to me is that there are different cultures in a shared space. Whether that's a perpetual situation is not really alluded to by the word itself. In my opinion, multiculturalism should be a waypoint rather than a destination. The destination ought to be that different cultures in a shared space can eventually arrive at a shared set of values and cultural practices, broadly agreeable to all.
suicide_circus wrote: » Implicit in the word multicultural is the notion that people largely won't mix and form a new cohesive cultural body but will rather remain seperate and retain their own cultures. At least one culture (presumably the native one) will always be dominant meaning that the other cultures must be "minority" cultures. Unless your minority culture is extremely strong in the areas like education and commerce it is likely that it will suffer to some degree of inequality of outcome which breeds discontent and resentment of the dominant culture. Doomed to fail? Or is this simply the way it is and our bar for successful multiculturalism is set too high?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Ok well for the most part it doesn't cause any problems, certainly not in Ireland anyway.
I don't know where you all get the energy to allow this stuff to bother you, it's not going to change any time soon...
Focus on something positive, go out and clear up some rubbish or something.
na1 wrote: » Irish travellers: "hold my beer..."
Eric Cartman wrote: » the German unemployment rate in general is 3.9% , 28.5% of turks in Germany are unemployed.
suicide_circus wrote: » The kebabs comment while funny (and true) is an insight into how a lot of people view multiculturalism - it provides tasty cuisines and an interesting mix of shades in a crowd of people - no more thought than that goes into it.
Eric Cartman wrote: » . Kebabs are lovely, but thats not a sign of integration
Thelonious Monk wrote: » People bang on about multiculturalism failing in other countries because of a few things they see in the news or websites, when in reality multiculturalism works very well in the UK and France etc for the most part.
biko wrote: » Possibly India or Uganda?
FVP3 wrote: » They haven't really integrated because after 2 generations if you integrate you disappear. That said they are not a hostile force within Germany, either and its nice to get good kebabs.
Turkish immigrants make up Germany's second biggest immigrant group with almost 3 million people and are very poorly integrated, ranked last in Berlin Institute's integration ranking.[76][77] During a speech in Düsseldorf in 2011, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan urged Turks in Germany to integrate, but not assimilate, a statement that caused a political outcry in Germany
kildare lad wrote: » Still are in all of places , when I was they're a lot of Aussies didn't like them . They've had huge social problems with alcohol that's doing their community no favours .
I Am Nobody wrote: » That much is true. Wasn't up until the mid 60's that the Aboriginals were classed as vermin?Or is my thinking mixed up.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Good to see the white man integrating down there too, the way they treated the aboriginals - including us Irish, our president even apologised. My point is people are mostly the same everywhere, some good some bad.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Yeah the Turks have. I used to go out with a girl from Hamburg, there are lovely parts of the city with loads of Turkish restaurants and cafes etc. Same in Berlin and many cities in Germany. The Turks make up about 5% of the German population and add a lot to the country if you ask me.
Lefty Bicek wrote: » What you are referencing there is a multi-ethnic Ireland, not a multicultural one. Do you know the difference ? Multiculturalism is toxic, poisonous, failed BS. That is the difference.
o1s1n wrote: » Have you seen how many doctors working in our hospitals aren't Irish? How many Philipina nurses work in our wards? How many high paying roles in IT companies are populated with people from all over the globe? You do realise they're all immigrants too, right?
Richard Hillman wrote: » Oh.... I did, didn't I.
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