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Nest Hello Doorbell Install

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I’ve been through 3 ring pro doorbells and gave up on them altogether and have been waiting for Nests launch. Unfortunately I wired the house specifically for ring with no chime, just the transformer in fuse box directly to front door.

Now the hello install details are out they ludicrously seem to require a hardwired chime to get an actual doorbell ring. I.e no plugin or wireless chime like the ring system.

Their install details actually say you need the chime to get it to function at all, but I’m guessing this is an error.

There is talk that google home mini can announce who is at the door, but unclear if it will also just chime when someone rings the bell.

Anyone got one on order or given it a go as yet?

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Nedved85

keith_d99 wrote: »

Nest Hub on sale in the Google Store for under 60 euros if anybody is interested

Anybody use the Hub on here .... Does the video appear on the Hub in good time when the doorbell rings?

Yes, it's pretty quick and seemless to be honest. A nice feature.

keith_d99

Nest Hub on sale in the Google Store for under 60 euros if anybody is interested

Anybody use the Hub on here .... Does the video appear on the Hub in good time when the doorbell rings?

OU812

anybody got what appears to me a film (not th protective one) peeling from the front of their camera?

Nedved85

Changing over to a Ubiquiti doorbell soon so I'll have my nest Hello doorbell up for sale, what's it worth second hand? I see they are 280 new, 200?

Clareman

I think I'm going mad, got a new phone this week and I've lost the preview in the notification are of the phone when someone rings the door bell, used to be handy to be able to drag down to see who it was rather than having to open the app, any ideas how to get it back?

nialldinho

micks_address wrote: »

Check and see if your nest hub is not on do not disturb...if you have one

Thanks I have a few google minis and a google home but no hub. None of them have do not disturb enabled

micks_address

nialldinho wrote: »

Anyone have an issue with the indoor chime not coming back on after a Quiet Time? I’ve only noticed it in the last week or so.

I’ve reinstalled the app, updated iOS and restarted the bell but no joy. I think google support’s next step will just be a factory reset.

Check and see if your nest hub is not on do not disturb...if you have one

nialldinho

Anyone have an issue with the indoor chime not coming back on after a Quiet Time? I’ve only noticed it in the last week or so.

I’ve reinstalled the app, updated iOS and restarted the bell but no joy. I think google support’s next step will just be a factory reset.

digiman

Was getting only 10V at the nest hello but was getting 24V at the chime connector so I just mated the original chime red and black wires together and wrapped in electrical tape and it’s working perfectly now.

micks_address

digiman wrote: »

The old chime is completely disconnected now. The hello has now power at all now, it won’t even make a noise when you press the button and it has no lights on it anymore.

It is wired like the bottom picture

Didn’t have a voltmeter with me, going to go back again and check what I’m reading at the doorbell to see if it’s low.

Voltage check should help. Any chance to much power was going to the nest and blew it? Could be just unlucky to that it's faulty

digiman

micks_address wrote: »

When you installed did you put the wired connector in the chime? Was the existing bell working fine?

When you say it went dead do you mean no power or drops off WiFi?

The old chime is completely disconnected now. The hello has now power at all now, it won’t even make a noise when you press the button and it has no lights on it anymore.

It is wired like the bottom picture

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Didn’t have a voltmeter with me, going to go back again and check what I’m reading at the doorbell to see if it’s low.

micks_address

digiman wrote: »

Just installed one for my brother and it worked for about 10mins and then went dead. Reset it and again it went dead after 10mins.

I swapped out the old transformer and wired up the 24V transformer, I removed his chime as when it was in place it was giving a yellow light during setup which indicates low power.

When I took the chime out I just clicked in the black and red wires into the little clips that came with the Nest Hello. I don’t have any connected to the Chime at all anymore. Any ideas what could be wrong?

When you installed did you put the wired connector in the chime? Was the existing bell working fine?

When you say it went dead do you mean no power or drops off WiFi?

digiman

Just installed one for my brother and it worked for about 10mins and then went dead. Reset it and again it went dead after 10mins.

I swapped out the old transformer and wired up the 24V transformer, I removed his chime as when it was in place it was giving a yellow light during setup which indicates low power.

When I took the chime out I just clicked in the black and red wires into the little clips that came with the Nest Hello. I don’t have any connected to the Chime at all anymore. Any ideas what could be wrong?

Crowirl

2011 wrote: »

As an electrical engineer and qualified electrician my advice would be that you shouldn’t work on a distribution board unless you know exactly what you are doing. Apart from the shock risk fiddling about can result in the board becoming a fire hazard. No offense intended.

As a civil engineer I agree (•‿•) when I realised the smoke alarms were on same trafo/circuit I've decided not to do myself. Have an electrician already booked in for this evening

Clareman

2011 wrote: »

As an electrical engineer and qualified electrician my advice would be that you shouldn’t work on a distribution board unless you know exactly what you are doing. Apart from the shock risk fiddling about can result in the board becoming a fire hazard. No offense intended.

This +100000, also, if you do have a fire you may void your home insurance.

2011

As an electrical engineer and qualified electrician my advice would be that you shouldn’t work on a distribution board unless you know exactly what you are doing. Apart from the shock risk fiddling about can result in the board becoming a fire hazard. No offense intended.

Crowirl

DaveyDave wrote: »

No I didn't change anything, not sure if the smoke alarms were affected at all but we have since got an alarm installed and that works fine so I'm guessing everything is ok, although it's probably best I double check them.

Alarm should be on a separate circuit I guess. My biggest concern is doing something which might cause a fire and then having fried the smoke alarms ðŸ€£

If you could test them that would be deadly ðŸ‘

DaveyDave

Crowirl wrote: »

My setup is exactly the same as yours! Did you change it to 24v and if so did it impact the smoke alarms at all?

No I didn't change anything, not sure if the smoke alarms were affected at all but we have since got an alarm installed and that works fine so I'm guessing everything is ok, although it's probably best I double check them.

Crowirl

DaveyDave wrote: »

Looks like installation of these is very simple so I would like to have a go.

The alarm and smoke alarm are on the same switch on my fuse board will this be an issue for powering any of these devices? Once I switch the fuse off, I'm guessing that cuts power to both doorbell and chime? I haven't looked at the chime yet but the list says 12v.

Aside from turning off the doorbell fuse is there anything else I should do to be safe?

My setup is exactly the same as yours! Did you change it to 24v and if so did it impact the smoke alarms at all?

dam099

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

I was just about to purchase a Ring Gen 2 and went out to measure my doorframe against a template I made up. Door frame is 35mm wide and the doorbell is 62.6mm wide, they're huge!

Not massively keen on mounting it on the wall as it'll stick out onto the street but curious to know what other people have done in this situation?

Thanks!

I have it on the wall beside the door with a wedge kit to have it at a slight angle.

Rowley Birkin QC

I was just about to purchase a Ring Gen 2 and went out to measure my doorframe against a template I made up. Door frame is 35mm wide and the doorbell is 62.6mm wide, they're huge!

Not massively keen on mounting it on the wall as it'll stick out onto the street but curious to know what other people have done in this situation?

Thanks!

Clareman

pete4pool wrote: »

Ok, but where do you suggest that I install the transformer.
Maybe where the chime is not and use the box?
Remember that I have 230v cable running from switch box to the chime and the thin 8v cable from chime to door bell. And also door bell and smoke alarm on same switch on the board. I think adding the transformer to the din rail will be messy as I'l have to run another cable or join 2 cables which are completely different size.

You're in electrician territory now I think. The thin cable to the doorbell is fine, that's what the Nest will get it's power off, if there isn't enough power getting to the Nest then it won't work, would you be able to put a meter on your existing doorbell to see what's getting to it to see if it's enough to power the Nest???

In my house, the chime is connected directly to the fusebox which has the transformer in it, I had to change the transformer to get the chime to work, it's a straight forward swop out, once I did it everything worked fine.

pete4pool

Clareman wrote: »

I really wouldn't bother with a chime to be honest, setup a Nest Mini to work as the chime and you'll be grand, I changed the transformer when I installed mine but I wouldn't bother now.

Ok, but where do you suggest that I install the transformer.
Maybe where the chime is not and use the box?
Remember that I have 230v cable running from switch box to the chime and the thin 8v cable from chime to door bell. And also door bell and smoke alarm on same switch on the board. I think adding the transformer to the din rail will be messy as I'l have to run another cable or join 2 cables which are completely different size.

Clareman

pete4pool wrote: »

Hi, sorry if this was already answered, I've searched throughan pretty sure it hasn't been.
Looking to get a nest hello. But my chime has a bulit in transformer of 8v. Built in meaning the chime takes the mains 230v and I don't have a transformer on the din rail.
Seen a few built in transformer chimes, but most don't say what the output V is.
Anyone recommend a chime with built in transformer that will give 16v or even 12?

Adding a tranformer to the din rain I think will add alot of work as the circuit board which for doorbell is also for smoke alarms.

Thanks.

I really wouldn't bother with a chime to be honest, setup a Nest Mini to work as the chime and you'll be grand, I changed the transformer when I installed mine but I wouldn't bother now.

pete4pool

Hi, sorry if this was already answered, I've searched throughan pretty sure it hasn't been.
Looking to get a nest hello. But my chime has a bulit in transformer of 8v. Built in meaning the chime takes the mains 230v and I don't have a transformer on the din rail.
Seen a few built in transformer chimes, but most don't say what the output V is.
Anyone recommend a chime with built in transformer that will give 16v or even 12?

Adding a tranformer to the din rain I think will add alot of work as the circuit board which for doorbell is also for smoke alarms.

Thanks.

DaveyDave

Got it installed and setup last night. Took far too long. My chime box is numbered 0 1 2 3 and I wasn't sure which cable was which, Nest's instructions and a lot of online posts didn't help. After a lot of browsing and watching videos I found a post on their forum, Nest do have an EU wiring diagram which is exactly what I needed.

Fitting the doorbell was tricky as my door is recessed leaving little room to get the wires on the doorbell and the wire comes from the side so I couldn't use the extensions and tuck them in.

The wall outside the door is obscuring the view a little which isn't a big deal but the night vision is bouncing off the wall leaving the actual view a little darker than it should be. I'll need to get some sort of spacer, hopefully it won't look too bad.

Clareman

DaveyDave wrote: »

Looks like installation of these is very simple so I would like to have a go.

The alarm and smoke alarm are on the same switch on my fuse board will this be an issue for powering any of these devices? Once I switch the fuse off, I'm guessing that cuts power to both doorbell and chime? I haven't looked at the chime yet but the list says 12v.

Aside from turning off the doorbell fuse is there anything else I should do to be safe?

I'm not sure about the rules about giving electrical advice on boards, but I don't think there would be a problem, personally when doing ANYTHING like this I have a good tester pen, something like this, major overkill I know but electricity could kill you so better overkill than kill. I also like to err on the side of caution and turn off the main circuit to the house, just in case. As I said probably way too over cautious but I got a bang once when changing a timer on the heating system and swore never again to chance it.

DaveyDave

Looks like installation of these is very simple so I would like to have a go.

The alarm and smoke alarm are on the same switch on my fuse board will this be an issue for powering any of these devices? Once I switch the fuse off, I'm guessing that cuts power to both doorbell and chime? I haven't looked at the chime yet but the list says 12v.

Aside from turning off the doorbell fuse is there anything else I should do to be safe?

Clareman

2011 wrote: »

Yes.

I bet you don't

2011

Clareman wrote: »

Not really an install question, more an operation question, does anyone know if you can schedule the quiet time?

Yes.